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Black Harvard alums claim Boston club shut down rather than let them celebrate the Game

Jezebel posts e-mail from the leaders of a black alumni group who say managers at a new lounge in the Theatre District were worried that, you know, the all black crowd would naturally attract gangbangers:

At approximately 10:45, after we won the argument concerning the amazing quality of our crowd and the strictness of our guest list, management began letting people in but then became worried that as our crowd waited in line it could attract the attention of "local gang bangers" passing by who would try to gain entrance to our party. Furthermore, they feared that if these individuals were turned away for not being on the guest list they could hypothetically cause problems with the bouncers outside of the club and draw negative attention to the establishment. Despite the fact that our Friday night party went off without a hitch and had no problems when we turned people away from the door for not being on our list, management decided to shut the party down as to avoid the hypothetical chance of attracting the "wrong crowd" (again their words not mine). In spite of our attempts to reason with them, we were left in a position where despite agreeing with our logic, the decision had been made and we were left powerless.

The club has a Facebook page, too. It's been taken down.

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Well, this is what happens when the city is going after establishments left and right for what random patrons are doing. The political grandstanding and threats to revoke licenses are going to have this effect.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't for the clubs.

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In the year+ I've been going to licensing board hearings, I've never seen them threaten to revoke a club's license on the first offense - especially not if whatever happened was clearly the fault of patrons. It's only repeat offenders that get threatened with more severe action (think Felt or Slainte).

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Wow. That's a great way to run a club, Adam. So because they have no current violations they should act recklessly with their license?

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They shouldn't act recklessly. But they also shouldn't act so ridiculously scared that they wind up kicking up with a situation like what this might be.

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What happens is that people who have booked a club for a private event with a strict guest list are kicked out because some hypothetical "wrong crowd" who is not on the guest list may be upset at being denied entry to said private event?

No. This is what happens when you determine who might attract the "wrong crowd" based on their skin color, not their own actions. If they wanted to keep out the wrong crowd, they should have vetted the guest list in advance to ensure that there were no known troublemakers on it; or only kick people out if they are actually currently causing problems.

As it is, they accepted the booking for the event, then got cold feet when they saw that the people who booked the event share a skin color with some other undesirables, and tried to cover their ass with excuses about who it might attract or by demonstrating disbelief that black folks could graduate from Harvard or Yale by demanding to see their old college ID.

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Totally agree with you! Why can't people just say what they really feel without making all of these stupid excuses!

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They've got somebody scrubbing their FB page just about every 5 seconds. Looks like they know they're in trouble.

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Looks like they've deleted their Facebook page; it worked for me a few minutes ago, but it's gone now.

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Maybe the community should work on getting rid of that specific bad element instead of getting into an uproar about the fallout.

When the time has come that people have almost accepted that "gang bangers" are there and do what they do and there's nothing that can be done to stop it, it's not fair to persecute the people trying to protect their establishment from that bad element. Get rid of the "gang bangers" and your problem won't be there anymore

It's really not that difficult to understand, but the real solution would take effort that no-one seems to want to put in.

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Right. So black people can't book rooms for private parties until there are no more gangs. Yes, that is a brilliant solution.

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For anyone who isn't aware, Jezebel is the hysterical crack-snorting-witch over-empowered-princess segment of the Gawker blog network (where authors are judged on the number of comments and pageviews, not actual fact-checking, accuracy, and so on.)

So, take anything a Gawker blog says with a massive grain of salt and verify elsewhere. They've been repeatedly caught posting stuff that later turns out to be complete bullshit, which they apologetically "fix" with an "update", not changing headlines, etc.

Same company, by the way, that bought stolen property (an iPhone 4) and then destroyed it taking it apart...then claimed it was "journalism."

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EWWW GIRL GERMZZZ!

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Internet cooties.

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I've got to give the club a little benefit of the doubt.
The trouble that can start in seconds on that corner is hard to believe if you haven't seen it.

I'm not saying the decision was RIGHT.
The unfortunate fact is that there's a real possibility of serious trouble breaking out when you deny certain people who are not invited but want to get into that party.

Certain people who sometimes start shooting randomly when aggrieved.

Believe me, I know what this looks like in print, but rest assured I'm no racist and won't be arguing with anyone online.

I can't recall the particulars but there was a recent case at a nearby club where people not allowed in became quite violent. This is a real concern for these club owner.

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With this logic, all private parties with a guest list must be banned immediately.

Great kindergarden logic. If your party can't support everyone, you shouldnt have a party.

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If you have to SAY "I'm no racist"...congratulations, you're a racist.

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OK, I guess I will argue a bit. . .

No, dude, I'm not racist in the least. Starting with the fact that I believe there is no scientific basis for the so-called "races" some claim. That's why I tried to give a disclaimer.
I know the lineage of all humans.

I don't have time to debate this. But I will say this. I know that area and I know there are many thugs (many of them black) who want to cause trouble and intimidate people on that corner around midnight.
The fact is that if that were a party for 40 year old white harvard alums it wouldn't be an issue simply b/c young black guys looking for trouble wouldn't bother trying to get in there.

There are plenty of places back in the day in Dorchester or Southie where you would have been asking for trouble with a line out front b/c WHITE shitbags would have tried to get in and would have surely caused trouble if they didn't.
I've seen that.
And I've seen white kids jump black kids many more times than vice versa.

So go pound sand. I CAN say I'm not a racist b/c I'm not. But enjoy your little easy shot.

Finally, I feel bad for the group holding the party and also think the club owners weren't right, but let's not Monday morning quarterback these guys into being the Klan.
i have a feeling half the righteous ragers on here have no idea how dangerous and criminal that corner can be late at night.

The alumni himself said he didn't think the club owner was a racist, but you know better about him and me?
Please.

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if you're even saying that line, you don't get what racism is.

Racism isn't a matter of a bunch of racists and a bunch of not-at-all-racists. It's a system, and we all contribute to it.

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PS Dude, I'll finish my thoughts.
Let's see-
Oh yeah, I went to public schools and fought more white kids than black kids.
I've dated black girls (and now women) all my life.
My stepmother is black.

Finally, while I despise the inner-city thug culture that too many young black men fall into my bleeding-heart liberal ass blames most of it on institutional racism and the legacy of America's darkest shame- our racist justification for the enslavement of our black brothers.

I could go on and mention the genocide against Native Americans but hopefully even your dense ass gets my point.

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Your relationships with them might not be as open and honest as you think if you're going around saying that you're not racist because you have Black friends and family yet no one has called you on this.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

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The club was racist -- it broke a contract with a private party because of hypothetical fears about black "gangbangers" ....

This is situation is open-and-shut racist, yet the people on this thread keep trying to make LAME excuses for the club owners...

What's going on? Is this just "Old Boston" showing its face again. Are all the commenters shills for the club owners?

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Considering how weak the "scene" is in this town and how Boston clubs can't stop tripping over their own idiocy long enough to stay solvent, I'm guessing these are the club owners. That anon tag hides all manner of swarthy, low-bred ills. It's a shame that cities like Providence and Hartford -- not exactly known as club towns -- have a better handle on their properties and policies than the collective of "ultralounge" doofuses here in the Hub. Is this club racist? Maybe, but this town's less-than-stellar history regarding race is bound to lean that argument firmly in one direction... and any club owner who can walk and chew gum at the same time should know that.

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If the area is so dangerous, why open a club there?

If the area where the club at which this party was planned is so dangerous, why did the group pick that club?

I'm finding the "attracting a bad element" excuse to be a bit thin...

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I'm on that block late at night regularly -- The Wilbur, the Wang, and Royale are all there, among others -- and it's no more awash in thugs than anyplace else. In a litany of lame excuses, it's among the lamest.

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Wasn't the MBTA party bus just parked outside the Wilbur a week or two ago? Maybe they know something that we don't about current criminal activity in the area and they're sharing it with the club managers/owners?

No idea, just a connection I made in my head reading your comment.

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Many folks criticize the full body scanners at airports as security theatre. The argument is that knowledge about passengers is more effective in preventing terrorists. What is that knowledge? Without coming out and saying it the knowledge comes down to developing profiles of terrorists and paying close attention to anyone fitting that profile.

In other words applying prejudice toward anyone fitting the profile - except that it is prejudice justified on the theory that this prevents terrorist violence.

Sounds like the management applied the same logic.

Of course it is wrong.

But is also emphasizes the level of fear that exists when a commercial business will risk accusations of racism in order to prevent what they perceive to be as an attraction for violence. Just as much about racism this is about immediate fear.

Racism that I have encountered for over fifty years is based less on immediate fear and more on having someone to blame and frankly to hate. The racism of white against black that I know derives its fuel from a need to hate. Same as Nazis and neo-Nazis againts Jews and Fudamentalists (especially folks like the Phelps clan) against Gays. This is not to argue that other forms of expressing racism does not exist - the Henry Gates incident proves that. This is to argue that painting the incident in absolutes avoids dealing with the harder questions about fear and terror that exists below, and often above the surface, for the average person in Boston.

That fear is something that most of us can share - whether black, brown, yellow or white. The 70 murders this year, the number of non-fatal shootings, the gang violence where toddlers and other "civilians" are killed or other gangbangers are killed in public places like pizza parlors, are creating an environment of domestic terror in our own city.

The right or wrong of the management at this lounge is less significant than the perception that they had to take drastic actions to protect themselves from the perception of probable violence.

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I read that alumni did not have I'd cause they are graduated. Maybe they could have an alumni assoc card? But not all are auto in alumn associations. I am not a lifetime member yet at my Univ., but I have my expired card :)
The real problem was the gang(s) being attracted to the party. They should have tried to make the line in the entrance part of the club. The 'list' didn't seem to help. Non-black folk are just scared of what can happen. Which is foul, cause if it were mostly white would the party shut down if they recognized some local skinheads walking around outside??? I also read that this is no big deal cause this was a gathering based on classism. I find NOTHING wrong with individuals from University or some sort of a University combine partying amongst themselves.

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