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When the Police think that
When the Police think that the best way to stop gang violence is to broker 'truces' instead of breaking up the gangs and preventing from existing in the first place, the battle has already been lost. Tolerating the existence of gangs in this manner, and legitimizing them as organizations worthy of negotiation, only serves to embolden the lawless and cower the fearful law abiding public. These high crime areas need to be flooded with police in a block by block counter insurgency style operation until the gangs are destroyed.
Unfortunately the PC and ACLU crowd will probably crow about criminal rights. I don't see the same groups standing up for all the terrorized law abiding citizens in the afflicted neighborhoods.
gangs
Well spoken and I agree
More detail about the homicides would help us understand
context and potentially causes; age, record, killed by family member, gang member, opposing gang member, stranger, weapon type, etc.
Here's a map of homicide count by BPD district.
I read somewhere that the BPD
I read somewhere that the BPD believes that 1000-2000 career felons are responsible for most of the crime in Boston. That's a small percentage of the city's population. Maybe we need a 3 strikes and you're out law.... well this is Mass make it 4 strikes.
Nice rant
Now how do you propose to legally do that?
Police can only stop crimes, enforce laws or make arrests on people with warrants. As much as you hate the idea of these "others" hanging out in gangs, until they do something wrong or criminal, the polices' hands are tied.
Our freedoms trump our security buddy. There's other ways to combat this rise in violence rather then busting sculls and impeding on others rights. Especially giving police more powers.
We could start with getting more officers into the community, rather then sitting and waiting behind the wheel of a cruiser. If the community knows and respects a LEO, they're much less likely to ascribe to the "stop snitching" BS.
A big part of the problem is
A big part of the problem is a shortage of manpower and a lack of neighborhood centric police organization. There are too many career desk dwellers and detail junkies in the BPD sucking up all the funds for badly needed patrolmen and detectives.
The current district rather than a local precinct system puts officers at one central station, where with traffic, sometimes it takes half an hour to start a shift and get to the neighborhood whee the officers actually patrol. I understand the financial and resource reasons why the city did away with small stations in each neighborhood in favor of centralized ones, but this organization hurts community policing greatly.
Of course this city can't even keep neighborhood libraries, so asking for neighborhood centric police stations (at least in the highest crime neighborhoods) back isn't going to happen.
Haviland...
those desk cops wouldn't be good street cops anyway. And the detail junkies don't take away any extra money. You sound like you know some of the inside stuff, so you should know how many arrests and assists are made on detail anyway (that aren't paid by Boston resident taxes).
I'm saying the desk dwellers,
I'm saying the desk dwellers, many of which are phony paper pushing patronage jobs, need to be cut to free up the funds for patrolmen and detectives. The administrative side, too many chiefs not enough Indians, is hurting the effectiveness of the BPD.
As far as details, I'm talking about OVERTIME, not construction details. All these details for special events and other crap which aren't being paid for by private groups are sticking the city with a bill which hurting public safety the rest of the year.
Ah ok.
But most of those private events are paid by the private groups . Everything else is just the price of business of being in a bid city.
... "our freedoms trump our
... "our freedoms trump our security".... really?? how about the people who don't have the fundammental freedom to walk/shop their neighborhoods when they want to because they are fearful. Security is a prerequisite for the freedom.
"Criminal Rights"
Please list some "criminal rights" and contrast them with rights afforded to regular citizens.
HINT: It's sort of a trick question.
I don't think you've noticed
I don't think you've noticed because of your smart ass comment, but there is a hardcore group of sleazy lawyers (not public defenders) always ready to jump in pro-bono to defend career thugs with rap sheets thicker than your average phonebook. The same thugs always have special advocates helping them out to sign up for every state benefit and find every loophole in the law to allow them to find housing right back in the neighborhoods where they aren't supposed to be living. Arrest one of these thugs as a suspect and have the evidence go sour or use 'too much force' subduing them during an arrest and every 'civil rights' organization is all over it like flies on shit.
Contrast this to the average person that gets arrested because of mistaken identity, or commits some dumb crime, someone committing their first crime, etc. Career criminals have a large group of professional enablers which could care less about the general public or your one time never again offender.
You people need lay off the
You people need lay off the internet mumbojumbo and to come chill with us back in reality.
Crime, although there's a spike this year, is still way below historical highs since we've been keeping records.
That big bad scary world was much bigger, and much more scary for your parents and grandparents. The good old days weren't so good.
You'd think we're one step away from Mad Max reading that crap above.
Take a deep breath, get out of the house, ect. And while you're at it, let's not cede all our civil liberties to others in the name of "protection".
Pretty much everything in your post is bullshit,
but you knew that didn't you?
http://www.jrsa.org/programs/Historical.pdf
pg 5-6
Murder rate fell every year from 1933 to 1963 and before the Great Depression it always lower than it is how...When did your parents grow up?
Get a clue you wannabe tough urban dweller.
Hardcore Group of Sleazy Lawyers?
Um, yeah, but most of them work for Enron and Monsanto ... helping corporations dodge taxes is a bit more lucrative than bailing out the local thugocracy.
People busting their tails to help thugs find housing and benefits? You mean, like the FBI guys who handed Whitey and Flemmi a license to kill? Or are these some fictional cape-wearing superghetto characters with special LAPD jetpacks who don't have names but run around performing miracles ONLY for the baddest of baaaaaad and superbaaaad people?
Please name names, and explain the economics which favor your fantasy league scenario. This could get amusing.
Yea I wondered that too.....
Most of the "sleazy" lawyers are just focusing on bad police work and aren't getting paid shit. The lawyers are not the problems here.
I work in a hospital (fairly
I work in a hospital (fairly menial position for over a decade now) and see advocates coming in all the time explaining to the people which frequently come in with various gang related wounds how to get their entitlements. The same person will come in multiple times in a year, state that they 'just got out of prison/jail' are really 'homeless' because they don't want to give a real address and do everything they can to not give an accurate identification of themselves. Half the time these people are obviously violating parole by their wounds or more often have warrants out which they don't want being served to them.
The advocates (being broad here, there are people whom work for the hospital just trying to make sure the paperwork is in order for us to get reimbursed by the state, but there are other groups too) are trying to be do gooders for the disaffected, but explaining how to get insurance and benefit checks to someone whom clearly isn't supposed to be on, or already is gaming the system multiple times through identity fraud, isn't such a hot idea. You'd be surprised how many people suddenly become their cousins or brothers when the time is right
The lawyers I'm complaining about are either ideological crusaders or text book boy scouts. Sure this and that technicality exists and following tight procedure is the way things SHOULD BE DONE. But when the choice is letting a thug with a long rap sheet walk free to offend again, or allowing the system to work, albeit flawed, to keep that miscreant a non threat to the public, what's the more common sense choice? I have no problem with these lawyers working for the average Joe that's been railroaded or faced sloppy procedure as a way for maintaining the integrity of the system. However when the person in question is a habitual offender, can't these lawyers see what they are doing is counterproductive to the general welfare of society?
I am loathe to mention names in this forum,but
Haviland's argument has some merit. When I was a lad in the Bunker Hill projects, there was a core group of maybe four or five lawyers that every crook in the the 3 projects used. These same lawyers ingratiated themselves into the family lives of some of their clients for many reasons. Chief among them was that nine times out of ten if the older brother was a skell, then the younger siblings could be counted on as potential clientele. They knew that if the PD office wasn't paying the tab, then the families would spend every penny to keep little Butchie out of jail, or use whatever funds didn't have dye on them
Boston Police has a "school police" division?
WTF:
"He will supervise the school police unit."
Ummmmm, Boston Public Schools HAS a police force. So we have two police forces responsible for BPS? Awesome. Why not make it three and invite the state police?
stats are meaningless
Hasn't anyone seen the wire?
Season 3 will show us the way
Boston needs a Hamsterdam. I propose Eastie.
IT's ABOUT TIME
It's disgusting that it took 60 + murders - many still unsolved - for somebody to give the message to Mayor Dummy that just maybe something is lacking in the BPD.