Some changes in the way pages look
By adamg - 1/6/10 - 2:40 pm
Hopefully minor, and with some more work to do. Content wasn't displaying properly for IE 6 users (still about 10% of visitors here), so I've been doing some futzing with templates and stuff to try to make things better for them.
Comments
thanks
I have IE 6 at work and hadn't been able to see entire posts,they were getting cut off, it looks better now.
Same here
Same here - IE6 at work, no option to update, so this is great. Thank you!
I like the colors better.
I like the colors better. The heading fonts are kinda short and chunky. Can you change the font? I'm using Firefox
It isn't showing up great in IE8 either
There is no left margin unless you maximize the browser in IE7/8, everything is flush to the left.
Coverage testing is an important part of any release.
Also ensure you manually edit any IE css includes to put a cache busting string, as doing an update.php just does it for the standard styles.css. If you are using @imports in your css, that will not cachebust either. Users on a production web site should never need to clear their caches so that your site works.
Fixed
Sorry about that. I had tested in IE8, but, yes, with the window fully expanded.
Screen size?
Isn't the margin issue at least in part a function of your screen size, in pixels? If so, then get a bigger monitor!
Yes, yes, bigger is better
But in this case, it was a CSS or IE or IE/CSS issue. On my laptop, the site looked fine with my browser window fully expanded. Hooray for me, I prefer looking at a single window at a time (you kids with your fancy-shmancy multiple windows open at once, get offa my lawn!). But when I minimized the window size to, oh, half my screen, the text got smushed right against the chrome on the left. Kind of annoying, and I didn't feel like putting up a big box reading "Site best viewed in Firefox" :-).
Big monitors are great, so are big jerks
Lets see here...
-I have a 24 inch Dell monitor at work (two at home)
-I've been doing web and web application development for 15 years
-I've been using Drupal for about 1.5 years (PHP for triple that)
So...yeah, it isn't a monitor. It is assuming that everyone views a site the same way. That doesn't take into account
-Older browsers
-Super new browsers
-Mobile devices
-People still using AOL
-The seeing impaired.
Do not assume the whole world issues your vanunted, hippee free ass makes no money and even Google cut them deep and made their own browser FireFox, because there is alot of variance (some countries still use IE6, some use Opera) - it may be a site about Boston, that doesn't mean one needs to be lazy.
Personally, I am a bigger fan of width percentage vs pixels, but that's me. ;) The margin issue in IE7/8 is better, but still not great. There may be some firefox specific styles in there, but hey, no one is perfect. ;)
So next time you say get a big monitor, pour yourself a glass of shut the hell up. ;)
Thanks for fixing this! I
Thanks for fixing this! I have IE6 at work and was so annoyed I couldn't read anything anymore.
Sweet! Thanks, Adam.
Sweet! Thanks, Adam.
Thanks!
Thanks!
ie6
ie6 is the bane of any web designer's existence.
Yeah, but ...
I wasn't even doing anything fancy, just screwing up basic CSS somehow. But at least I learned there are still a fair number of people at jobs that force them to use IE6 (and fortunately, I guess, the kidlet still has it on her PC, so I could see the problem firsthand and try to figure it out).
Groundhog Minute
Notice how the time and date stamps are the same as the original post on any individual thread?
Kinda variable, though
Thanks for spotting that, fixed. I was using the wrong variable for comments (fortunately, just affected the display, not the actual time of posting).
Looks a lot cleaner. I'm on
Looks a lot cleaner. I'm on safari
Did you reduce the font size?
Did you reduce the font size? 'Cause I just had to bump it up from 105% to 110% in FF to read it comfortably.
Hmm, yeah, you're right
Sorry, will fiddle with that.
Thanks - The font's too small
Thanks - The font's too small for me, too (well, borderline, too small if my eyes are tired or I'm feeling lazy) and it'd a pain if I have to increase font size every time I visit. This in Safari on a Mac.
You were doing them a favor
The entire web should be IE6 non-compliant so the people responsible for the computers that it's still on would be forced to update from that wreck of a browser software (and I mean IE6 specifically even though I have issues with IE in general too).
Feel free to read the wikipedia article on how bad it is. It's really really awful.
Unfortunately, many offices
Unfortunately, many offices use software that runs only on IE6, so employees are barred from installing anything else. It's not their fault that the company bought Oracle software that cant be updated.
Actually
If software runs "only on IE6", then their company isn't updating/replacing that software correctly and their IT department should be fired.
There's nothing magical about Oracle that requires that it interface "only with IE6" AND there's nothing about IE6 that keeps their IT department from installing a more modern browser alongside IE6 if they're going to allow the employees to use the web from that particular computer. There's no excuse for handicapping your data and computer security by letting some Oracle-based app dictate what single browser you'll use on your computer. I'm sure if the company evaluated an update, different Oracle interface, or other solution, they could escape the "only IE6" dilemma you claim exists.
Yaaaayyyyy!!!
Great, Adam! The red horizontal bar at the top now no longer obscures the login links when viewed in FF2 in linux.
so I no longer have to
so I no longer have to remember user/login is the way to get to drupal's login page, yay!! (I always knew that knowledge would be useful when I made one site in drupal once upon a time.)
Byline font size
The comment byline font size seems smaller than, say, the byline font size of the original post at the top...but the actual comment texts seem to have the same font size.
Regardless, would it be possible to up the byline font size of the comments. I find it hard to quickly determine which user posted the comment I'm reading at its new relative size to the subject line and comment text above and below it. Maybe bold or lighten the blue color too? I don't know...that's maybe too much...just thinking out loud on that.
Better, thanks
:)