You say "delusions of grandeur", I say "a desire to pump some much-needed lifeblood into a falling-by-the-wayside town". Dedham had NOTHING going on for a long time (except for the World's Saddest Applebees). I'm not calling for a complete gentrification or anything, but it's good to see new businesses coming in and bringing more people into town.
"Dedham had NOTHING going on for a long time (except for the World's Saddest Applebees"
Did we forget about Legacy Place?
Sadly Sagra never got the restaurant part down. Most diners will give a new place one chance, maybe a second opportunity and then put it on the "Do Not Go To" list.
Pete Nice is absolutely correct, there's nothing like some combination of good food combined with service. Me thinks a pool table probably won't cut it - even if allowed.
Dedham has delusions of granduer because the town is full of contractors and postal employees, but the town government acts like it's Dover or Weston. A lot of the homeowners are one layoff away from forclosure, but the town is too good for fast food restaurants. Now they're (we're) too good for pool tables? Criminey - they just busted three houses near me for drug dealing. Pool tables are the least of this town's problems.
I've been to Sagra a bunch of times. I go there because I know there is always going to be free spots at the bar to watch a game. Why are there always free spots at the bar? Because the service is so horrible that 90% of the people who get treated poorly there don't go back. I don't mind because 7 out of the 10 times I've been there I've been given a free round or two because they screwed up somehow (usually its because of a 45-60 minute wait for food).
So I don't buy the Legacy Place excuse for this one. Bamboo, Jake and Joes, American Joes, Acapulcos, The Chateau all do fine before and After Legacy Place moved in. No one goes to Sagra because the management is horrible.
I have noticed that Sagra has really pushed Fri and Sat night live bands, Latin night, and other promotions that seem to do pretty well with the Dedham youth. I've actualy enjoyed a few of the bands and have to say the food is pretty good if you get it hot and on time.
Oh, and letting Sagra have 3 pool tables isn't going to make Dedham a better town. You can go another mile into Norwood for that type of rif-raf. :)
But after spending much of my adult life having to know the difference between a city and a town in Massachusetts (and don't get me started on such abominations as the City Known as the Town of Watertown), I just couldn't bring myself to call Dedham something it isn't.
The city/town divide in MA is interesting (particularly the different "plans of government" for the cities) but...
The state, county, township, town, village, hamlet and other nonsensical divisions in New York State with respect to subdivisions of government are truly bewildering.
It's also one of the biggest issues that I point to when all of my New York relatives cannot understand why my taxes in a town with great public services all around are "so low" (as compared to theirs - particularly in the suburbs of NYC, but even upstate).
The other is the town form of government here. Town meeting, and particularly open town meeting, makes a huge difference in keeping expenses under control. The principle of subsidiarity in relatively small jurisdictions works.
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Dedham has delusions of
Dedham has delusions of grandeur.
You say "delusions of
You say "delusions of grandeur", I say "a desire to pump some much-needed lifeblood into a falling-by-the-wayside town". Dedham had NOTHING going on for a long time (except for the World's Saddest Applebees). I'm not calling for a complete gentrification or anything, but it's good to see new businesses coming in and bringing more people into town.
"Dedham had NOTHING going on
"Dedham had NOTHING going on for a long time (except for the World's Saddest Applebees"
Did we forget about Legacy Place?
Sadly Sagra never got the restaurant part down. Most diners will give a new place one chance, maybe a second opportunity and then put it on the "Do Not Go To" list.
Pete Nice is absolutely correct, there's nothing like some combination of good food combined with service. Me thinks a pool table probably won't cut it - even if allowed.
Dedham has delusions of
Dedham has delusions of granduer because the town is full of contractors and postal employees, but the town government acts like it's Dover or Weston. A lot of the homeowners are one layoff away from forclosure, but the town is too good for fast food restaurants. Now they're (we're) too good for pool tables? Criminey - they just busted three houses near me for drug dealing. Pool tables are the least of this town's problems.
You got it
Dedham: The Arlington of the South
BS
I've been to Sagra a bunch of times. I go there because I know there is always going to be free spots at the bar to watch a game. Why are there always free spots at the bar? Because the service is so horrible that 90% of the people who get treated poorly there don't go back. I don't mind because 7 out of the 10 times I've been there I've been given a free round or two because they screwed up somehow (usually its because of a 45-60 minute wait for food).
So I don't buy the Legacy Place excuse for this one. Bamboo, Jake and Joes, American Joes, Acapulcos, The Chateau all do fine before and After Legacy Place moved in. No one goes to Sagra because the management is horrible.
I have noticed that Sagra has really pushed Fri and Sat night live bands, Latin night, and other promotions that seem to do pretty well with the Dedham youth. I've actualy enjoyed a few of the bands and have to say the food is pretty good if you get it hot and on time.
Oh, and letting Sagra have 3 pool tables isn't going to make Dedham a better town. You can go another mile into Norwood for that type of rif-raf. :)
Sagra failed in Davis Square
as did several of the restaurants that preceded them at 400 Highland Ave. in Somerville.
In River City?
I know, Dedham's a town...but the trouble is right here, in River City.
I know, I know
But after spending much of my adult life having to know the difference between a city and a town in Massachusetts (and don't get me started on such abominations as the City Known as the Town of Watertown), I just couldn't bring myself to call Dedham something it isn't.
Adam, NYS must have really thrown you for a loop.
The city/town divide in MA is interesting (particularly the different "plans of government" for the cities) but...
The state, county, township, town, village, hamlet and other nonsensical divisions in New York State with respect to subdivisions of government are truly bewildering.
It's also one of the biggest issues that I point to when all of my New York relatives cannot understand why my taxes in a town with great public services all around are "so low" (as compared to theirs - particularly in the suburbs of NYC, but even upstate).
The other is the town form of government here. Town meeting, and particularly open town meeting, makes a huge difference in keeping expenses under control. The principle of subsidiarity in relatively small jurisdictions works.