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MBTA: Moebius-strip Bus Transportation Authority

Katy Fritz goes around in circles in an insane discussion with the driver of an MBTA bus she wanted to take to Southie from the Back Bay tonight.

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If the driver of the inbound bus doesn't also drive the outbound bus (because of a shift change, for instance), the passenger may have to pay a second time because the second driver doesn't know the rider already paid going inbound.

And if the rider tries to pay a second fare on the same bus within 20 minutes, the monthly pass probably won't work the second time, for the same reason that you can't use the same monthly pass at the same subway station within 20 minutes -- to prevent fraudulent 'pass-back' use of one pass for multiple passengers.

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How many drivers actually make the monthly pass owners run their monthly pass through the fare machine?

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if you're monthly pass is on a CharlieCard, they can't tell, right? Most drivers don't make you scan the Charlie Ticket monthly passes.

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I take the bus a lot, and what Ron says is correct. Somtimes a bus is ending the toward Copley run and going back to the garage and another bus, coming from the garage, is starting the toward City Point run. The toward Copley bus does not always automatically become the next toward City Point bus. Almost everybody gets on at the stop in front of the Green Line entrance on Boylston St., a few people get on at Ring Road, at Lord & Taylors. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody get on at the stop where this person got on, which if I read correctly, would also be where the Route 39 toward Forest Hills picks up. I've only seen Route 9 riders get off there. Maybe the MBTA needs to put up a sign clarifying that this is a drop-off only stop for Route 9 and that toward City Point buses board at the other stop.

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They should let people board if they're riding around the loop to head back to City Point. If the bus is going out of service, they can get off at Copley and wait for the next bus.

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The T should make an exception to the pass lockout rule for bus routes with one-way loops at the end (like this one), or two branches with the same route number.

The subway lockout is 15 minutes (not 20) in the same station. I haven't tested the bus lockout. Is it the same route, the same route in the same direction, or the same bus?

When they first implemented paper bus transfers about 10 years ago, I believe you couldn't transfer between two routes that were printed on the same schedule, like the 70 and 70A, or 62 and 76. They should really repeal this restriction.

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He's a state employee...he knows he's not supposed to use common sense. Not legal here, remember?

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