State shuts its swimming pools until further notice
By adamg - 6/30/11 - 10:19 am
Further notice being defined as until officials can figure out how a woman's body went unnoticed for days in a state "deep water" pool in Fall River.
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Are the ex-MDC pools around
Are the ex-MDC pools around Boston which are only about 4 feet deep included in the deep water pool closure?
Boggles the mind
I'm sorry, but this is incredibly odd and creepy. I keep imagining how I'd feel if I had gone swimming there on Monday or Tuesday.
are you out of your tits?
"Investigators have said that, on Sunday, 36-year-old Joseph went down a slide with a 9-year-old boy and vanished."
What the fuck is this? The report on this is a mish-mash of factoids from investigators that really don't make much sense. Sunday this woman slips into a wormhole at the end of the poolslide. People use the pool on Monday and Tuesday and supposedly inspectors visit the pool on those two days, but the woman's body is not found until kids break into the pool on Tuesday night. And the 9 year old boy? Is he stuck in the filter? I refuse to believe that two days worth of swimmers and pool inspectors would fail to notice a body in the pool. If they know the kid is 9 years old, perhaps they know who he is and could ask him if he left the pool with the woman.
I know a reporter shouldn't be speculating on a story like this and the facts are "still just coming to light." But the string of statements/facts from the investigators really make little sense. Instead of closing pools around the state you might want to be checking out who works around the pool and whether this woman may have been attacked and dumped into the pool Tuesday evening. Presumably they've checked out these kids who broke in on Tuesday night and found the body. Was any of this asked of the investigators?
You're absolutely right
The story makes no sense. Unless the water in that pool was _awfully_ cloudy, one could hardly miss seeing something only 12 feet deep. And doesn't staff have to do some basic pool cleaning each day?
And why close all the state-run pools?
Kid's words
The kid told police that he told the staff/lifeguard that she slipped/fell on the slide and landed into him in the pool. It's not clear how adamant he was about her not coming up or whatever though.
I mean, if she was there watching this 9-year old...then what happened at the end of that day? Did he walk home on his own? Did his parents not wonder where she was? Did he not care that she didn't leave the pool with him even though he went there with her?
Then the whole everybody getting in the pool without noticing the extra body that never surfaces for air thing for 1-2 days...weird.
This whole thing is bizarre.
This whole thing is bizarre. Apparently the kid says he DID go home by himself when he couldn't find her at the end of the day. She also apparently met up with people she knew at the pool and they left after they thought she had just gone home without telling them. But on NECN the reporter had heard one story that the nine year old HAD told people he thought the woman might be in trouble.
This whole thing is so bizarre.
Don't forget the inspectors
Them's some mighty fine inspectors they got there. I can just imagine.
"Hey, George, what box do we check fuh dead body inna bottom uh da pool?"
"Ralph, dey ain't got no box fuh dat."
"Fuhgeddaboutit."
Why is it even *city* inspectors anyway..
if it's DCR property wouldn't they be *state* inspectors?
How in the hell ...
Either the body wasn't there all that time ... Or the lifeguards are poorly trained and on god knows what.
When I was trained as a lifeguard, I was told that it is expected that I would inspect the pool AND take a swim at the end of the day.
That's what I'm wondering.
That's what I'm wondering. How do all these lifeguards and two city inspectors not notice a body floating in the pool. According to one person interviewed on the news the inspectors reports noted that the pool was "cloudy" but come on.
If the pool was THAT cloudy....
...there was something seriously amiss with its maintenance. We are not talking about about Walden pond (100 or so feet deep).
Cloudy? And then they left?
THEN WHAT WERE THEY INSPECTING?
I read a recent article floating around the AP that said that two inspectors have been put on leave...so I'm guessing they didn't go anywhere near the pools they were supposedly inspecting.
What they didn't notice...
See, what they didn't notice wouldn't have been a dead body floating. Dead bodies first sink, and then they float.
First the body sinks as the air in the lungs is replaced by water. This is associated with the dying part. Once it's submerged, the body stays sunk until the bacteria in the gut and chest bubble out enough methane, hydrogen sulfide, and carbon dioxide to float it back up again. That takes days.
So that's one suspiciously cloudy pool, but it's not a floating body they didn't notice down there.
tits?
Using 'tits' in the context of a dead woman at the bottom of a pool is crude and unnecessary, don't you think? This woman wasn't a slab of meat.
well
It wasn't referring to her, it was referring to whomever wrote the article -- as in "are you out of your mind?" It was a common expression of someone I knew who used it as a statement of incredulity. Oddly enough he always used it with men. I can see how you might think I was applying it to this poor woman, but I wasn't.
This entire story is so bizarre, I wonder why the reporters bother to report any of it, as it is all so leading, rather than just say a woman's body was found in a pool under suspicious circumstances. By stating that the pool inspectors were placed on leave leads people to the conclusion of "what lazy govt employee leeches -- they weren't inspecting the pools that they said they were." But if neither the inspectors nor the two days worth of pool users noticed a body either at the bottom of the pool or floating in it, maybe the more obvious conclusion is that she wasn't in the pool under Tuesday night. Bottom line this kind of reporting leads to all sorts of suppositions and armchair investigating, better to go after more of the facts with some sensible questions than just reporting a bunch of gibberish that leaves people scratching their heads and assuming the worse about everyone.
Adam, you're one of these ink-stained types -- what do you think?
Just. Doesn't. Make. Sense.
There has got to be something more to this story. A lot more. In order to accept the story as it is being told at this time; that a woman went down a slide, drowned, and went undiscovered in a pool for three days requires one to believe the following;
No, none of this is working for me. I find any one of those items unlikely, but all of them in tandem? I can only assume that the detectives are allowing this story to continue in circulation to misdirect the real target of their investigation. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me.
Should be interesting to see what the MEs report shows.
Sad situation all around for this poor woman. :(
Her family didn't notice she was missing?!
She had kids... did no one in her own family notice she was missing? This whole thing is just weird.
Also wierd (to me anyway)
Was that this woman was brought to the hospital and was pronounced dead later at the hospital.
I've seen hundreds of dead bodies and thousands of bodies that have been close to being dead. Sometimes it's a tough call and a submerged body is not going to have rigor mortis like other bodies, but I can't see how there was anyway that fire, emts, or the police couldn't figure out at the scene that this woman was dead after two days.
EMTs and Fire never take a dead body to a hospital, never.
Fringe
It's happening. Our universe is being torn apart. The edges are opening up and wormholes are appearing.
Someone run to the basement lab in harvard and get the team on this.
I'm trying to
But I keep getting lost and driving over a bridge in Stoughton.
only in Fall River....
only in Fall River....
I keep getting distracted by
I keep getting distracted by the giant floating letters