The City that Always Sleeps considers a late-night alternative to pizza in Allston

Owners Max Toste and Aaron Sanders on either side of lawyer Karen Simao.Owners Max Toste and Aaron Sanders on either side of lawyer Karen Simao.

UPDATE: Board grants Deep Ellum's request.

The Boston Licensing Board decides tomorrow whether to let Deep Ellum, 477 Cambridge St., extends the hours of both its dining room and patio to 2 a.m.

Several nearby residents attended a board hearing this morning to support the plan, saying people who work late in the area deserve a place to go and relax that doesn't involve either pizza or bros with beers ogling sporting events on TVs. Deep Ellum has TVs, but they only show old movies - westerns and stuff like Woody Allen.

"There aren't any places that serve food this good that late," Matt Maloof told the board. Deep Ellum's attorney, Karen Simao, gave the board a petition signed by 1,500 people - the vast majority Allston and Brighton residents, she said - in support of the idea.

Simao said that, unlike certain other nearby establishments she could name, Deep Ellum would continue serving food until just before it shut its doors.

The proposal to extend the inside hours from 1 a.m. and seasonal patio hours from 11 p.m. drew opposition from City Councilor Mark Ciommo and the Allston Civic Association, both of which have long fought battles to keep Allston sleepy.



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food after 11? people outside

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food after 11? people outside when it's dark? WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.


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If this is your biggest problem you ain't got nothing to worry about buddy.

At least

At least his sarcasm detector's not broken.

Honest, hard-working people...

... would doubtless prefer to go home to have a dinner of beans on toast while watching late-night reruns of "The Lawrence Welk Show", "An Evening at Pops" and "Hee-Haw," the way God intended.

Believe it or not

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That sentiment is basically what some South Boston residents came out and said about Domino's doing deliveries til 3 a.m. there.

I remember that Ms. Ferrer asked if anyone knew if there was delivery after midnight anywhere from Southie. Someone said "no". Another woman claimed it was very dangerous to have cars driving around on Southie streets after midnight. As if Southie wasn't a car dependent neighborhood...

Surprised Adam didn't post about that whole fiasco yesterday. It went on for quite a while, and he was scrawling notes furiously.

Totally unrelated to Deep Ellum, but....

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Karen Simao and Amy Fisher ("Fishuh"): separated at birth?

(Go easy on me, I haven't yet figured out how to post pics here - I'm only a few steps removed from referring to this whole thing as the interwebs. Also, if you're wondering why I linked to that picture instead of another, well, just run a google image search for "Amy Fisher" and you'll see why. I think Adam tries to keep this as a family website.)

I'm counting on you, Adam, for a pithy explanation for the considerable number of people who might not know who Fisher is (was?)...but "Reading Lolita in Massapequa" is out.

Not what she said, sorry if I was unclear

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What she said was that of the 1,500 people who signed the petition, the vast majority of them was from Allston/Brighton. She said that in the context of trying to show that Deep Ellum is really a neighborhood establishment, as opposed to a place that draws people from far away.

Reading comprehension

No. The vast majority of the 1500 signers of the petition were residents of Allston/Brighton.

Quick note

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Mark Ciommo's aide said that they oppose 2 a.m. on principle, nothing against Deep Ellum. The sentiment at the ACA was similar, although to be sure, I did not get to read the letter that was sent.


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Deep Ellum is a great bar and would be a great 2 AM option if it were available.

I wish I had known they would be there today because I didn't have much to do today and could have shown up. I have to pay closer attention to the BLB's agenda.

I would drive from the North Shore for this

There's nothing but fast food joints and on Fri/Sat, a single diner where I can get food at 2am on the North Shore. I don't count Ihop. It's not on my radar, and I might actually want quality food.

I'm a vegetarian, as well. So.. if they get the license, I might consider the drive. I would be sober, as well.

I can understand, even if I disagree, with the board being concerned about late night drunks. I can not understand concerns over late night food in a business/restaurant district.

My hometown had within it or within a 10 minute drive 5 - 6 24 hour diners at any given time that also had liquor licenses, and none of them even required a police detail even though they were all ages and magnets for kids. They were and are still considered safe places to go, and even the ones smack in the middle of residential areas get along nice with the McMansions next to them. Import that to New England please (only without the McMansions).


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We're "special and unique" here alright? We can't handle all that freedom. It makes our Puritan hearts quaver.

(P.S. your description sounds like New Jersey. Am I right?)

Im in new Jersey right now.

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Im in new Jersey right now. It appears that the only thing NOT open until 3am is the supermarket.

Yes, let's be more like New Jersey.

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If you feel the need to experience some Jersey style, head over the bridge and up Route 1 through Saugus - it's a little bit of New Jersey right here in New England.

You can even stop off at the Kowloon - it's open everyday until 2 a.m.

In the meantime, let's keep Allston shitty, as the saying goes - it will still be better than New Jersey.

Here's some news for you

Boston is bizarre in its pathologic fear of late night food and drink.

In nearly every major US city I have travelled to, things stay open late to accommodate late-shift workers, if nothing else. Salt Lake City and Boston are exceptional in their nightly rolling up of the sidewalks.

New Jersey is what makes New Jersey what it is - not late night dinner access.

That's not news to me...

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considering that I've spent my entire adult life in Boston, huge gobs of my childhood going to and through New Jersey, and that I have been to most of the great cities in America and Europe.

I agree that Boston and Massachusetts are exceptional in their licensing schemes. It just doesn't bother me like it bothers others. Actually, its one of the many quirky things that I adore about our little outpost on the North Atlantic, and given the choice between living with this kind of licensing and the free-for-all that is NJ and NY, I will choose (and have chosen) this.

I mentioned diners in the context of NJ because the previous poster did, not because I thought that late night diner access made New Jersey what it is.

I do not believe the diners of NJ that the previous poster was writing about are open to accommodate late shift workers (unless he was referring to those in Bayonne or Elizabeth, etc.). It sounded more like s/he was referring to diners in places like Wayne, West Orange or Montclair. These are open at those hours to accommodate underaged kids with no where else to go, and folks who want something to eat after they've been on a late shift - drinking at a bar. I have no problem with this, but different strokes for different folks.

Anyone who has spent even 2 hours driving through NJ off of an interstate highway will see a resemblance between Route 1 through Saugus so many similar roads in New Jersey.