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Tasty Burger wins permission to fling burgers in South Boston, but without any seats
By adamg on Fri, 08/03/2012 - 10:28am
The Boston Licensing Board yesterday approved a Tasty Burger on L Street, but denied the restaurant's request to add 20 patio seats in the back.
The board, which oversees food-serving licenses in Boston, agreed with the outlet's request to stay open until 11 p.m. most nights and midnight on Fridays and Saturdays. The burger stand, which will replace the old Boat House ice-cream stand, will open at 8 a.m., with plans for breakfast burritos and coffee.
Some nearby residents had opposed the stand - whose owners originally sought a 1 a.m. closing - on grounds it would lead to people eating on their stoops, pissing in their alleys and loudly yakking away on their cell phones.
Residents said the patio in particular would cause problems because it abuts neighbors' yards. Without a patio, burger buyers will have to find some other place at which to eat.
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Um ...
They don't want people eating on their stoops ... SO they opposed the patio?
(headdesk!)
Um
Did you guys read the article, or just skim it? There were two groups of people:
1) People who objected to the patio because it abutted their own backyards.
2) People who objected to the restaurant entirely because of the stoop/pissing/whatever issue.
I don't think anyone objected to just the patio because of stoop-eating. That would be obviously moronic.
This is a hilarious case of
This is a hilarious case of NIMBYs opposing one too many things. "We are concerned about people sitting on our stoops, AND we oppose allowing you to provide seating for your customers." Hmmmm. I know that my general seating preference for eating a hamburger goes something like 1) table and chairs, 2) stoop. If you want people off your stoop, you give them chairs.
It is Hilarious!
You almost have to ask if the BLB was trolling the nearby residents.
Wolfies: This means war
I subsribe to the notion that the owner of Wolfies, allied with his "local" cronies and his bought off politician Nick Collins pushed this BS to prevent competition at his crap restaurant. Which I might add, has closed and reopened three times since it opened three months ago. So you got the patio at Tasty Burger shut down... well, at the next clandestine meeting of the east side yuppys, we shall decide on the efficient manner of Wolfies demise in this neighborhood. Game on bro.
Collins is in the tank for.....
Its very easy to take a cheap shot at a politician that you do not support but at least take it with some legitimacy. Yes Nick Collins opposed it and so did EVERY residential abutter of the property. Nobody wants to live next to a fast food stand with outdoor service. This is not a downtown area or Myrtle Beach its a high priced residential community. We all pay a lot of money to live here and we deserve a say in what goes in the building next door. I would like to thank Representative Collins for standing with the community time and time again, its great to see someone not beholden to developers and a certain executive office holder in this great City. I hate when business owners, developers, and people with financial interest in a community have politicians in their pockets. Nick Collins is in a pocket, actually a lot of pockets, he's in every pocket of the people he represents and for that I thank him.
Huh?
No, no you don't.
It's zoned commercial, and had been for a damn well while. You have no right to say what goes in there unless you want to open that big wallet of yours and buy the real estate to do what you please.
This is exactly why we can't have nice things in this city.
NIMBY logic at its finest
I know the previous commenter pointed this out but it needs to be re-enforced. This area was been occupied by a business, and every adjacent building is a business (even across the street is a bank). We're not talking about taking down homes to build a strip mall. Its opening one business where another has failed. Besides... wasn't the Boathouse pretty close to being "a fast food stand with outdoor service"?
residential abutter?!
There are no residential abutters.... none. Gas station, Stop & Shop, Funeral Home and the Cox Bulding. Residential abutters to Wolfies? At least three. Permit opposition to Wolfies? None.
Thanks for commenting, intern-of-Nick Collin's.
Your Wrong
YOu are wrong that every residential abbuter opposed it. The closest residential abutter Joe Canavan supported it 100%. The only other residential abbutter the one on E Broadway neither opposed nor supported it. So before you priase folks get your facts straight. ANd if Rep Colins is not in pockets then why does he support the development of the Fiztgerald Post on E Fourth St when and this case it is true every abbutter opposes the development. EVERY ABBUTTER!!!
So,
they didn't want people ordering a burger and sitting on the neighboring stoops to eat it. Logically the solution to that would be to take away the patio where people could actually sit and eat? Makes total sense.
Why?
Why does the City keep succumbing to irrational requests of neighbors with too much time on their hands? Someone needs to inject some common sense into these approvals, but unfortunately the City seems just as incapable as the residents at doing so.
Because they are the only
Because they are the only ones that show up to the hearings and meetings.
Terrible system
Yeah, because most people who work would love to spend 2 hours on a weeknight attending a meeting so they can say "yes I am in favor of this very reasonable proposal" while they listen to a bunch of crankensteins complain about every possible thing under the sun.
Will it have indoor seating?
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Nope
Window service only, and I think delivery as well.
Yep on both counts
We're talking a tiny ice-cream stand. And, yes, they plan delivery service.
I am a huge fan of TB but
I hope they bend over backwards to be good neighbors. The smell from the Tb on Boylston is overwhelming--and again, I love their burgers (and fries, and onion rings...) but I can't think of another burger joint in town that's so...erm, fragrant. I would not want to be an abutter.
Neighbors
I can't figure out what residential buildings directly abut the proposed patio. To the left there is a gas station, to the right is the old Cox Electrical commercial space. There's a funeral home behind it a- and then maybe 200 yards further back we're in the Stop n Shop parking lot. Anyone in between 1)does not directly abut the patio, 2) Should be used to foot traffic, car traffic and the noise of operating businesses. Is it really a big deal to have 20 people eating a burger "near" but not directly behind their house.
I could be totally wrong, maybe there is one house who shares a sliver of a corner of the fence behind the patio...maybe.
This is why we can't have nice things
I have always wanted to see more biergartens open in the city because there have to be some really cool spaces in the city that aren't exactly developable (middle of oddly shaped blocks, etc.) but would turn into cool little patios that you could sit with friends and have a beer from a number of bar/kiosks setup around the space.
Right...
You can't even have a patio for 20 people to eat burgers and I want this city to have more biergartens...sigh.
Not the same patio the residents were oppossed to
The seating rejected by the Board was not the patio built by the developer. The seating refers to the same seating the Boathouse used to the side of the old Cox building, facing onto L St. Tasty Burger had already decided they did not want/need the concrete patio the owner of the site built in the backyard of the Cox building. TB instead proposed the same tables/seating that the Boathouse always had. The residents did not oppose this seating as it was existing. Not sure why the board rejected it. The residents at the meeting I was at wanted the same seating that had been there before, but not the massive concrete patio the developer laid there. It is visible from all the properties on E4th St that back onto the Cox building as the developer also removed a ton of mature trees to lay the patio from 2 properties, as he also owns the house next to the Cox building. The night they had the meeting on the new patio, you could hear it from all the surrounding properties.
Vegetarian Burgers?
Will they have vegetarian burgers?? Me and my European are vegetarians which makes us more Yuppie than any other Yuppies in South Boston.
- The Original South Boston Yuppie!
not everyone was against the patio
The vote was 2-1, Murati Ferrer voted for the patio and closing it at 10 p.m.