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Got 'im
By adamg on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 7:00pm
Celebrating the capture on the Common. Photo by Brig Dauber.
At 8:41 p.m., a police commander at 67 Franklin St. in Watertown announced, "Subject in custody."
Kip Lange tweets:
North End streets just erupted in cheers.AC reports:
Cheers from windows in Brigham Circle. Chanting "BPD! BPD! Messed with the wrong city."Celebrating in the Fenway. Video by Masstreehugger. From Dorchester, Dev reports:
Ashmont Grill dining room erupts into applause.Tim Lawrence reports:
Cheering, whistling, celebrating on Huntington. Crowd is growing. Haven't seen or heard this since Obama was elected in 2008.Matthew Anderson tweets:
The mood, already hopeful, has become jubilation here at the Corrib Pub in Brookline. HUGE thanks to all the police.
Handshakes and cheers all night for Boston cops. Photo by Brig Dauber.
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GO GET HIM BOYS
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boston...
Was hiding in a Boat. LEO Brother text something similar to me before the news.
Lockdown back in effect in
Lockdown back in effect in Watertown.
CNN is reporting they have
CNN is reporting they have him cornered. But given their record on accuracy in this case take that with a grain of salt
Globe / CB Radio
Too. Evacuating civilians, so they know something.
They were evacuating
They were evacuating civilians all day and didn't find him. I don't know the geography over in Watertown too well so I'm wondering is this area outside of where they were searching? And if not why didn
t they find this guy during the all day searches.
Latest
WBZ radio, Boston, reporting (from what I would consider an almost unimpeachable source) that the second bombing suspect is definitely surrounded in a backyard in Watertown. They are being very cautious about rousting him since he could have explosive devices, etc.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Let hope
They get the fuck alive, and everyone walks away fine.
7:28 PM Fox 25 reports
7:28 PM Fox 25 reports suspect is alive and moving around,and the truck that carries the robot is on the scene. He is surrounded but not apprehended as of yet. He is in a boat at 67 Franklin street.
Lets hope this is it
Question
Did they find him before or after they lifted the ban?
On a Boat!
send in the robot!
send in the robot!
I was going to post a YouTube link
to that video, but you beat me to it.
I have this mental image of that kid hiding in the boat, injured, surrounded by weapons, and signing that song.
And hopeullfy
As fucking terrified as the people who didn't deserve it on Monday.
Scanner link
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam?u...
The only thing this whole
The only thing this whole needs is a harrowing boat chase down the Charles River. Then this **** show is complete.
If the boat's a rockin...
Well, this ****show might get a grand finale explosion if they're not careful.
The boat owner says there is about 40gal of gas in the boat our escapee is bleeding out inside of.
I will give the feds/pd/fd credit for not just storming in right now.
A charbroiled suspect is gonna have a hard time confessing.
Worst getaway vehicle ever.
...
HE'S ALIVE AND IN CUSTODY
Medics coming in to treat him.
Cops and FD on scene applauding.
8:43 Fox 25 says suspect in
8:43 Fox 25 says suspect in custody.......
CNN says BPD tweeted suspect
CNN says BPD tweeted suspect in custody
Massachusetts gets its man!
Take that, fuckers. This one's for Martin, Krystle, Lu, Sean and all of the injured.
Now, let's all have dinner in H2Otown and get drinks for all the LEOs!
State Police live feed
They just called for everyone to go to Mt Auburn Hospital. Apparently they will be taking the suspect there.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam?u...
Boat for sale in Watertown...cheap
extra ventilation.
Love that Dirty Water
http://youtu.be/kqKHqWaTv9g
Applause
Just one more thing: hundreds of folks are lining the streets in Watertown and cheering every police car that goes by. That's how we feel about it, lockdown and all. Best feeling I've had since before the bombing.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
To quote one of Boston's greatest poets
"Bye, bye!"
Carmen Ortiz is nothing more than
a useless politician.
worse
A bureaucrat without a political bone in her body. I mean sheesh, you just presided over one of the largest manhunts in the nations history.
Comm Ave
A parade (or mob ) of people just marched down Comm Ave east-bound either towards the Common or the Finish Line. They were chanting "USA, USA". Last time this happened was when BinLaden was killed, except there were a lot more people then.
I'm sure the cops are just looking forward to having to put on their riot gear and chase these kids off before some start tipping cars.
You're not from around here...
Riot gear? This ain't the Stanley Cup. If some guy tripped, probably five people would have tried to catch him before he hit the ground. BPD could have provided security in beach chairs drinking pina coladas, wearing Hawaiian shirts and dark glasses.
Remember, there was no planning for a big gathering on the Common last night.
(Decided not to go with this...) So, go back in, pull the shades on the penthouse windows and keep reciting to yourself, "They are Caucasians, they are Caucasians" A mountainous region in Russia...
(I'll go with this...) See that Boston cop smiling, shaking someone's hand? Take a good look at his badge.
Huh
That badge number looks mighty familiar to me.
Hmmnn
Years ago it was black electrical tape for the mourning band. Sorry for your loss.
Duck Boat
After all of this we need a Duck Boat parade. A boat for the hostage negotiator who got him to give up. One boat for the homeowner who found him. One boat for the family of Officer Collier and the MIT police. One boat for Officer Donohue and his family. A couple of boats for as many of the injured who can walk. And one big old line of first responders.
And then
Can we all pitch in and get that guy in Watertown a new boat?
I'd imagine his insurer has
I'd imagine his insurer has him covered. But I will gladly help cover his deductible.
Idea
Auction off the now infamous boat and donate the proceeds to the one fund.
I'm sure we can find local sports hero to buy him a new one.
Do you think he'll get it
Do you think he'll get it back? I think he probably wont. Permanent evidence, or at least tied up as such for the next 15 years.
Insurance?
If it's anything like most boats (that I've had, anyway), it's a piece of crap...they'll probably reimburse him for the cost if they confiscate it. Not sure, though. Never had a terrorist hiding in my canoe.
about that insurance thing...
Realizing how trivial this is in the grander scheme, I have to say that I had a thought that his insurance might not cover this unless he elected to purchase the additional terrorism coverage (you know, that rider that everyone, except large building owners and the like, does without?).
What the policy says is pretty much irrelevant, though. Even if there was a basis to exclude the claim, it would be a foolish insurance company indeed that would do so - the media frenzy that would ensue would cost them way more money than buying the guy a brand new boat of twice the size.
Um ...
Maybe we should just get a big cake for all of them and avoid the crowds lining the street sorts of events for a little while.
One line sums it up
Yippie ki-yay mother f***ker
I work at MGH, and I have to
I work at MGH, and I have to say: what a goddamn disgrace.
Do you really think this is a time to be celebrating, organizing parades, doing a goddamn happy dance because a joint operation by the FBI, CIA, ATF, homeland sec, and the BPD, which has now cost over $500 MILLION, to catch one bleeding kid in a boat, who would have gotten caught anyway because where the fuck is he gonna go, has now been hauled in?
what good does this do to the people that lost limbs, the child that's dead, that poor MIT officer. Do you think their families are joining your goddamn lynch mob?
This entire fucking thing is a SAD, SICK occurrence, and there is absolutely NOTHING to be proud of. Its ONLY sad. Sad that innocent people have died, sad that these twisted little assholes were driven to this, sad that their mom has to defend them while in her heart she knows they're guilty, sad that a 26 year old police officer has died for no reason. its a LOSS, not a WIN. So rejoice and laugh, but I am not joining the fucking parade, instead I am mourning this loss. The terrorists did not count on walking away clean, they just wanted to deliver the bombs. they did it, they succeeded in killing our child, a boy of 8, who is dead, he's not coming back, he's not getting justice, and catching the bad guys doesn't make it even. so they WON. and rolling tanks down boylston and making a big gun show out of the aftermath does not change a goddamn fucking thing. i'd like to see some of that vigour in highlighting the heroes that saved lives, like Carlos Arredondo.
Agreed
People are suggesting a parade for the cops? Why, because they didn't see the bombs before they went off, because even after every available officer descended on Watertown and ordered a city shut down they still didn't find the kid? He was only found once they told people to stop hiding in thier homes. he was found by a civilain, not them. They don't deserve any medals, frankly they should all go do some self examination.
Speaking of self examination....
I also find the notion of a parade a little odd, and I think that cops would too. Most people don't expect a parade for doing what they are paid to do. Many of the cops even seemed to be shocked that they were being thanked (favorite quote from a Boston cop: "now I know what it's like to be a firefighter").
I found your comment interesting for another reason, however. Many people, and several regular contributors to the (usually civil) discourse on this site, have frequently ridiculed the "see something, say something" and "it's never this obvious" (with 10 foot high backpack) messages that have been routinely put out by officials since 9/11.
The atrocity on Monday (and the events stemming therefrom) seems to have gone down exactly the way that officials have been saying it would for 12 years - by someone abandoning a backpack full of explosives in a crowded place. I have been wondering since Monday what might have been if someone had screamed out, or told a cop, "Hey, this guy just dropped this bag on the ground and took off!"
Maybe no one would have taken it seriously, and nothing different would have happened. Maybe a stampede injuring more people would have occurred. Or maybe, just maybe, the police would have had enough time to clear out every one around the bags, these things would have detonated and there would have been many fewer injuries or deaths.
I suppose we will never know.
Not a time for dancing
I don't get all this dancing in the streets either, just as I didn't get it when Bin laden was killed. I am happy that this evil killer was captured, just as I was happy that Bin Laden was out of the way, but there is a time for dignity in "victory", not mad, drunken college partying in the streets. Whats up with the idiots in the photo with no shirts on, and the people with a Celtics flag? Absolute idiots.
I respectfully disagree: I'm proud, not gleeful
While I understand and agree with some of what you say, Here are some things I am celebrating today:
Look for the best in people's reactions, you'll find it.
<facepalm>
"Do you really think this is a time to be celebrating, organizing parades, doing a goddamn happy dance because a joint operation by the FBI, CIA, ATF, homeland sec, and the BPD, which has now cost over $500 MILLION, to catch one bleeding kid in a boat, who would have gotten caught anyway because where the fuck is he gonna go, has now been hauled in?"
Not a danger. No hurry. He only shot two cops. The overall tab? $500 mill? That's a lot. Please cite that and I really don't mean from CNN.
"what good does this do to the people that lost limbs, the child that's dead, that poor MIT officer. Do you think their families are joining your goddamn lynch mob? "
No, they will not celebrate. Will they ever go to a Sox game? Will they cry at Sweet Caroline?
I dunno. They might. Their call. It's a free country.
"joining your goddamn lynch mob?" FU.
You might want to research just what a lynch mob is, asshole. Guy was already in custody. This was a large, spontaneous group of people that turned out because they can. Because they needed to.
"This entire fucking thing is a SAD, SICK occurrence, and there is absolutely NOTHING to be proud of. Its ONLY sad."
Jeebus, you are a fucking idiot. SAD and SICK. Yup, I'll agree with you there. Proud? Hell, I'm proud of everyone at the scene. The pros rushed in, but they are trained to do that. The civilians rushed in, into a maelstrom of carnage and possible secondary explosions to render aid to the fallen. They did that for something as corny as love for their fellow man.
"they succeeded in killing our child, a boy of 8, who is dead, he's not coming back, he's not getting justice, and catching the bad guys doesn't make it even. so they WON."
He's not your child, yes he's dead, he will get justice because catching the bad guy helps to make it even. No, they didn't win. They tried really hard, though.
" i'd like to see some of that vigour in highlighting the heroes that saved lives, like Carlos Arredondo."
Should have been here earlier in the week. There are folks here that apparently know Mr. Arredondo on a (somewhat) personal basis, like dog babysitting. I'm not one, but I do respect him. When it was needed, he rose to the effort.
So, for my two cents...you are a troll or don't understand it. We weathered the storm, we count our loss and our love. We ain't perfect but damn, I see no disgrace in folks feeling good about catching this kid.
One more thing...I have a boy a bit older than him...just felt melancholy all day...such a waste.
Amen, and yes, when you've
Amen, and yes, when you've been under siege in your own home in your own city for 24 hours, you bet the heck people are going to burst out of their front doors jumping up and down for joy and relief when it's over. That reaction seems only normal to me, particularly if you were living in the most dangerous spots.
I was also afraid that this guy would take out even more people when caught and/or commit suicide by cop. They were lobbing homemade bombs out their car forcrissakes. They ambushed and murdered a young cop responding to a call. The older brother had a feakin suicide vest. I was so HAPPY and RELIEVED when the surviving suspect was taken into custody alive without further incident despite one last gun fight. You bet the hell I am celebrating. I am celebrating and giving thanks to everyone who worked together to make that happen, and thanks to all of the civilians who rushed to help complete strangers when the bombs went off. I am thankful, and I am proud of my city, and I am damn well celebrating. People came together, and it was fraggin' AWESOME.
I work near MIT, live in Boston, and depend on the T to get around. All those people out on the streets last night live in the city or they lived in Watertown where shots were going right through houses. When it was over, it was wasn't a question of *should* we celebrate, it was why shouldn't we celebrate?!
Just because people were out celebrating, doesn't mean that they aren't also sad and mourning and thoughtful about the losses or being disgusted with what happened. No, they (the terrorists) did not win. The quick action of civilians and first responders and our top medical teams saved more people than we lost. The people who did this, did not get away with it - one dead, the other in custody. I wouldn't call that winning. Now, with the suspects dead or caught, we can focus ALL of our energy into healing, supporting the victims, and the city getting back into a normal routine.
Twisted? Yes. Driven to this? I'm not so sure.
I agree with you that the events of this week are, on the whole, quite sad. It seems to me, however, that these guys, and the older one in particular, got the chance that millions of people have literally died for - that is, the chance to get out of a war-torn hell, come to Cambridge (a community that more than possibly any other, embraces people of different backgrounds), be educated, and have a chance to contribute to the betterment of humanity. It seems that several people in the family (and the Maryland uncle in particular) made the most of that opportunity, as millions of Americans have before them.
Do you know something about these guys that suggests that they were driven to commit these atrocities rather than elected to do so? I have seen no such evidence - rather, what I have seen to this point suggests that not only did they squander their opportunities, but did so in a manner that has inflicted immense suffering on many individuals struggled to provide them.
to the anon who said this.....
For the first time in my life I was within 100 yards of bombs going off, and bullets flying in the air above me (I have been around live gunfire, but never heard it in the air), and I still had to continue on and do the job I signed up to do.
No no, I didn't see the bombs before they went off, and I'm sure the Watertown cops who was shot at didn't see the bombs that was thrown at him either. But he kept going and did his job.
No one is asking someone like you for a parade, or medals, or anything. People are relieved that they don't have to worry about getting blown up, ambushed, or shot at when they don't expect it. I'm sure (no I'm positive) you were nice and safe in your house (or grandmoms basement), thinking about what it would be like to do something important with your life. Very similar to the mindset of these two terrorists. Let's hope you don't do anything drastic. (And yes, law enforcement did find one of them, and an officer was shot doing it, and another ambushed and killed from it.)
To the UH family, I have some cool stories for everyone, but I'm not sure it would be right to share them just yet. Some interesting items that I haven't seen on the news:
-The 2nd kid was reaching up giving everyone the finger in the boat but seemed to have given up on everything at that point. Probably exausted, delerious, etc.
-There was a 15-20 minute period on early Fri morning where officers thought both subjects were dead/caught. We thought this may have been the time where he could have escaped the first perimiter. Very chaotic on the radio, and the info from the MIT shooting was still vague and seemed to be from an armed robbery call. Basically word didn't get out soon enough that the second suspect was running, and with officers who aren't from Watertown come in, no one knows where to go, set up a permiter, etc. Then you have to decide where to even start a permiter.
-If this was a bank robber or similar, outside house searches could have been done with 2 man teams. With bombs involved, a whole new protocol had to happen, which made it slower.
All in all a crazy week, and I think the cheering and joy people are showing is really just some closure for what happened on Monday. This is a very common feeling for those who are wronged by someone else. Sure, tipping over cars and getting drunk isn't really called for, but these are natural ways in which people deal with situations like this. For law enforcement, it means someone who wants to kill us is off the streets. It simply makes us feel safer.
Thanks Pete
Good to see you here. Take some R&R as soon as you can and good job and a job well done. We always appreciate it.
Thank you
For everything you and other officers and first responders did.
Nice work, Pete et al.
And thanks. As always, don't mind the imbeciles.
I'm interested to get your take on my "see something say something" (under subject "self-examination") comment above after you wake up from a well deserved slumber.
Thanks guys...
I had some good sleep last night, but events like this have you thinking nonstop for a long time.
About the "see something say something" issue, I would agree somewhat, especially now if you see someone putting a bag down somewhere. I would at least yell out to them about leaving the bag there.
On the other hand, you would be amazed about the amount of times people call the police with "suspicious" activity. Hell the innocent black man walking in a white neighborhood gets enough calls at it is.
In the end you are better off being safe than sorry, and basically everyone needs to be alert and aware of their surroundings.
Thanks, Pete. However, before
Thanks, Pete.
However, before people jump on your comment and ride it a very long way off a short logical pier, can we agree that there is such a fundamental difference between someone setting down a bulky backpack in the middle of a crowd at an internationally publicized event and bolting and "the innocent black man walking in a white neighborhood" so as to render the two actions incomparable?
Thank you
I live in that area of Watertown. Yesterday was very scary. Once it was over, I saw neighbors cheering because they were relieved it ended and happy that it happened as best it could, with no one else killed.
And I think people should show appreciation to others for doing their jobs well, especially if their job is protecting you. So thank you.
Kids being kids on the Common and elsewhere downtown
Looked like to me. Youthful exuberance never disgraced anyone.
Did you sprout from your father's head a middle-aged woman?
Watertown residents showing appreciation to LEO? Looked OK to me.
Carlos helped save lives and so did all the cops in on the manhunt. How are you so sure this kid wouldn't try to kill again? Anyone that will attempt to kill cops, as well as innocent civilians needs to be run to ground. End of story.
I'll make this simple observation: Monday morning quarterbacks never throw the pick or fumble the ball.
Were the police perfect? Who is?