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Kids these days: A sticky situation

Somewhere out there is a guy who is no doubt very proud of himself - and very sticky - after photobombing ESPN with a bottle of Dr Pepper outside Fenway.

Ed. note: This raises the troubling question of which is more vile: Dr Pepper or Moxie?

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Great packaging, but that stuff is toxic. Dr. Pepper is just odd. And he's dousing himself with Coke, so he doesn't get a vote.

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They're both quite delicious, you buffoon! If only they would make less sweet versions so the natural flavors would be stronger.

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Moxie was a mistake by a chemist designing cleaning solutions to take barnacles off the hull of boats.
Dr. Pepper is carbonated prune juice.

Vile.

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You say Moxie is vile but do you drink Red Bull or Gaggermeister?

Enquiring minds wanna know!

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I'm sure a higher percentage of people who have tasted them would say that Moxie is more vile. It's a New England thing, though, and, if you grew up with it, a taste or two every so often keeps you grounded.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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Moxie and Dr. Pepper is that you either like it or you hate it. A friend of mine tried Moxie once. To this day, he describes the experience as "drinking carbonated cough syrup".

Personally, I've always found Dr. Pepper to be far too sweet. But I've been partial to Moxie for many years.

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ditto. Moxie, Yes! Dr. Pepper, Blargh!

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I'm a native and I think Moxie tastes like penny-flavored cough syrup. My Pops loved it, though.

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No question that Moxie is more vile by a longshot -- AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY. I used to have a friend who drank Moxie because "nobody ever asks for a sip." I think that's its main selling point, but I, too, enjoy a can or bottle every year or two.

Dr. Pepper is just a sweet soda with a fruitier blend of flavors than Coke.

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Yep, my dad said pretty much the same thing about his fondness for Moxie. For extra vileness, he favored the diet version.

I have to admit that this is the first I've heard of people thinking that Dr. Pepper is vile - I'm right fond of it and know many others who are as well. We get a mixed assortment of soft drinks for a weekly conference at work - the 2 or 3 cans of Dr. Pepper always get taken.

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Likewise. I don't see how Dr. Pepper is any more vile than grape soda or orange soda or whatever, and it's certainly popular. When I was a kid, it was an unsuspected treat to find a sub shop or convenience store that carried it; now it's pretty much ubiquitous. Now, if we could just do something about the dearth of good birch beer in the Boston area...

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Polar Beverages out in Worcester makes a decent Birch Beer.

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Agreed, Polar is the best I've had recently, but I seem to recall much better birch beers in my youth. There was a brand called "Varsity" at the local convenience store that had a real bite to it, as I recall, but we're going back close to 40 years so my memory may possibly be faulty.

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Polar is my favorite brand of soft drinks in general. I like some of their more esoteric things like their Golden Ginger Ale, which has a quite strong taste, but I find even their regular ginger ale is head and shoulders above more popular brands. Likewise their cola. Sometimes the cola (especially the diet cola) is difficult to find in supermarkets (and is nonexistent in convenience stores). Once a Polar employee was stocking the shelves while I was in a supermarket and I asked him why it was sometimes hard to find. He said it was not a big seller so supermarkets don't stock a lot of it. I think the reason might be that many of their flavors including the cola, ginger ale and dry orange aren't as sweet as other brands. This less sweet taste is what specifically appeals to my taste buds, but it may be less appealing to others who prefer a sweeter drink.

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...along with most other US bev mfctrs. Aside from any political and potential health downsides, high frustose corn syrup just doesn't taste the same (or as good) as cane sugar.

Now if I want a decent tasting soft drink, I have to get one made in Mexico or Europe (personal faves -> Jarritos and Sanpellegrino). Which on one hand sucks, because I prefer to buy local brands when I can. But on the other hand, is probably a good thing for my midsection.

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My local Stop and Shop in the suburbs sells Coca-Cola products in 12 oz glass bottles that are made in Mexico with real sugar. They definitely taste better. A buck a bottle.

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it's worth pointing out that the whole New Coke fiasco was a deliberate ploy by Coca Cola to disguise the fact that they were switching all their soda lines from sugar based syrup to HFCS based syrup.

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Wrong. http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp

"In 1980, five years before the introduction of New Coke, Coca-Cola had begun to allow bottlers to replace half the cane sugar in Coca-Cola with HFCS. By six months prior to New Coke's knocking the original Coca-Cola off the shelves, American Coca-Cola bottlers were allowed to use 100% HFCS. Whether they knew it or not, many consumers were already drinking Coke that was 100% sweetened by HFCS."

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It was sugar and not HFCS locally well into the 1990s, at the bottler's discretion. I used to bring coke in 16oz glass bottles back east after college visits because my boyfriend liked it a lot better.

Then again, the local bottling plant sat next to a sugar beet refinery ... so why truck HFCS in?

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I love the Mexican Coke. It tastes like it did when I was a kid. Mixed with rum (which is also made from sugar cane, of course), it's sublime.

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They sell cases of Mexican coke and mixed cases of sprite/fanta/coke at Costco.

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....their 'store brand' of sodas is made with Real Sugar (or at least was a year or two ago the last time I bought it). Also Hansen's brand sold at Trader Joes, if you can find the non-diet version, has real sugar.

It's out there, just hard to find.

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It tastes like Pine Sol, but a little sweeter and with a little less of the disinfectant aftertaste.

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I love both Dr. Pepper AND Moxie! Although Diet Moxie can go pound sand. They really didn't flavor test that one well and the artificial sweeteners ruin the sharpness of the taste somehow.

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She's made of soda bottle stuff and has these rich moxie-black swirls in her hull.

I actually like the stuff. I'd like it better if they ditched the corn syrup because it also messes with the flavor profile.

I'd say that it is an acquired taste, but my MIL nearly had a stroke when my then 2-year old son took a bottle of it out of the fridge and asked for some! So I suspect it just has to do with whether you are genetically predisposed to like gentian root's odd bitterness or not.

Moxie was also the original partying all night drink ... people in zoot suits used it like 5 hour energy and redbull.

As for cough syrup, well ... it is TONIC y'know!

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Moxie was better when it was made with real sugar.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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you can get a cocktail called "Black Water" that's Moxie and rye. http://drinkboston.com/2007/02/23/mixing-with-moxie/

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Thanks for the warning.

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It's been a few years but I have mixed Scotch and Moxie on more than one occasion. I think it's time to revisit that practice.

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Nice N.E. spin on a dark and stormy. (no substitute for the real deal, of course!)

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any bar in town actually stocking Moxie as a mixer?

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a bottle of Mountain Dew. You want to talk about vile nasty stuff.

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I read this question and immediately conjured up a memory of Joan Baez warbling some ain't-American-awful song with the line 'a choice of cancer or polio.'

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The song you are referring to is actually "Salt of the Earth"" by the Rolling Stones. Joan Baez covered it. The Stones original version is far more tongue-in-cheek.

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So 'tis. Alas, I was raised by LP-playing hippies, not rockers. Metaphor stands, though.

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"Alas, I was raised by LP-playing hippies, not rockers."

I'm probably about the same age as the LP playing hippies that raised you, and it may have been a matter of personal taste in your household, but I do remember the golden days when all of these musical styles co-existed very amiably and were not mutually exclusive. Folkies like Joan Baez, Richie Havens and Melanie shared the stage at Woodstock with the Who, Sly and the Family Stone, Jimi Hendrix and Mountain. The old original WBCN, up until about 1980 or so, would easily go from a Joni Mitchell record to a Stones record. At some point everything became completely niche. Unfortunately, rock and roll itself is now considered niche.

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Great station.

More evidence -- Jerry Garcia was not only the leader of The Grateful Dead, but played jug band music and bluegrass.

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I am a big (and unapologetic) Moxie fan! Given all it's detractors, there'll be more for me. Dr. Pepper is prune tonic.

As an aside. Moxie & Jagermeister is known as a 'Mad Mailman!'

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I thought it was "Poor Man's Turpentine".

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Can't comment on the Dr. Pepper vs. Moxie war - and I apologize if I'm stating the obvious - but does it not seem like this DudeBro just a paid actor shilling (no pun intended) for Dr. Pepper? A guy in a Dr. Pepper shirt, covering himself with a full bottle of Dr. Pepper, no other DudeBros around him egging him on - and the guy does look like he came from Central Casting.

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Some classmates of mine got hired in 2004 to stand at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, pretending to be spectators who just happened to be holding Nike signs where they'd be on all of the news cameras. It was posted on BU's student job board as an easy job, and only after talking to the other spectators did they realize what the deal was. I think Adidas sued Nike for it...

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