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Major concert planned for Marathon bombing victims
By adamg on Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:08pm
May 30 at the Garden, tickets $35 to $285 (plus, of course, a Ticketmaster charge), go on sale Monday at 10 a.m.
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and for all the shooting/stabbing victims?
What are we doing for them?
Aahhhh, right, nothing.
Remember, kids: it's not terrorism when your black/latino neighborhood is under constant control/threat from a drug gang!
Imagine what would happen if they flooded roxbury, dorchester, and JP with 10000 police officers like they did in Watertown.
You'd hear screams of
You'd hear screams of raaay-cysm and profiling coming from every direction. Savin Hill is in Dot, care to tell us why it's much safer than the surrounding communities?
I'm glad people are willing to help raise funds for One Fund
This concert has a little something for everyone in an audience of 36,000. And so far, it's the only inclusive event planned to raise funds and bring people together after the bombing.
1 - You're A Dick
2 - See above.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
P.S. To be more specific, yeah, it's a shame everybody isn't doing something to solve every fucking problem in the world. You're still a dick.
I agree with Suldog
I agree with Suldog, that guy's a dick.
See above.
See above that.
no, you are, for discounting the lives of minorities and poor
Terrorism in the richest part of the city: gets local/national/international news coverage, tons of medical care, huge payouts, and well wishes.
Meanwhile, we had three people murdered in one day. Nobody's going to interview their moms and dads; they'll be lucky if the Globe even prints a tiny little story in the back pages. There aren't going to be any manhunts. Their families aren't going to get a dime....
So, what *is* the murder count since the bombing?
The difference.....
Is that the marathon victims were 100% innocent, and were selected at random by a terrorist.
Murdered gangbangers in Boston were specific targets, all of whom in this instance had long records of violence against their fellow man.
ahhh, I see, murder victims deserve dying!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
Funny how the lady who had her legs blown off doesn't want the death penalty for the kid who did it...but you, on the other hand, have declared a dozen or so people to be deserving of extrajudicial execution?
Glad to know asses like you are workin' the beat. Goes a long way to explaining the 30% murder clearance rate, lowest in the nation. Why bother investigating murder of people we don't like, huh?
No you don't see...
I didn't say anyone deserved anything. I'm explaining to you why some people might feel a little worse when an 8 year old kid dies in a terrorist attack compared to a 24 year old who has already killed other people and was a specific target in a non-random attack. I'm sure you are all up in arms over the 2 people who were killed in Denver last week right?
And the police have very little to do with clearance rates, (or crime rates for that matter). It's when cowards like you (you can't even get a login name) don't speak up for what is right, and blame others for why they feel a certain way.
Not every person killed in
Not every person killed in the hood is a "gangbanger with a record." Also, just because they're gang members, doesn't mean they deserve to die. Nobody deserves that.
The difference.....
Is that the marathon victims were 100% innocent, and were selected at random by a terrorist.
Murdered gangbangers in Boston were specific targets, all of whom in this instance had long records of violence against their fellow man.
Anon, You're Wrong
I'm not discounting the lives of minorities or poor. Please see my comment way down further to another anon (or maybe you - I don't know, it's hard to tell you anons apart. You all look alike to me.)
The point is that jumping on the backs of people trying to make a difference in one place in order to make a point about people in trouble in another place is bad form.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Well said, Suldog
It always amazes me how people, when their noses are out of joint, manage to have the nastiest, snottiest attitude on the planet.
Tell that to the patents of
Tell that to the patents of the 8 yr. old from Dorchrster, asshole.
"Richest part of the city"
Doesn't mean that the victims were rich.
And nothing is stopping people from donating to any murder victim anywhere. So go ahead and send your donation. Or start a fundraiser: lots of cheap, easy to use fundraising sites out there, like kickstarter and gofundme.
I'm surprised you were able to type that.
Especially while holding your hand out.
No, but it actually isn't
No, but it actually isn't terrorism.
If Dorchester thugs shot into a crowd outrage would be similar.
What a lineup!
SOMEBODY found a "Boston's Hottest Music Acts!" pamphlet from 1987!
(And then added some incongruous, not-very-good out of towners to the bill)
well who else wants to drop
well who else wants to drop >$200 on a single night benefit act?
So nice...
of ticketmaster to donate their fees right back to the OneFund. What's that? They're not donating anything? Figured.
I blame the venue. Nobody
I blame the venue. Nobody forced them to make the exclusive deal with TicketMaster (though the kickbacks sure make the decision easier). There are plenty of competitors with much lower fees.
Wait, what?
Dane Cook and Jimmy Buffet? Good lord, haven't we suffered enough?
My thoughts exactly. This
My thoughts exactly. This is one lame 'musical' lineup. And the ticket prices are extreme. Whom do the proceeds benefit? This smacks of an opportunist move wrapped around a tragedy.
I won't be there.
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Where have you seen the ticket prices?
look up
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Ah! I was looking on the
Ah! I was looking on the poster, not the Adams comments. Thanks!
As reported by ...
WHDH.
you beat me to it
Jimmy Buffett and Dane Cook combined would make me light myself on fire... to be honest there is not much in this lineup that i would pay to see (i have seen aerosmith before, and i am all set)
Maybe
Neil Diamond will reprise his recent cringe-worthy, Fenway Park rendition of "Sweet Caroline." That's about the only thing that I think could make this worse!
Am I the only one who's
Am I the only one who's starting to wonder where all the One Fund money is going? It just seems like there's a huge amount of money relative to the number of people who were killed or seriously injured, and insurance should cover a lot of expenses, too. Is the One Fund money just going to allow the insurance companies to keep more money in their own pockets?
Gotta pay a lot of people to
Gotta pay a lot of people to 'administer' the funds. You know friends of friends and unemployable relatives from ivy league schools. Or at least that's how most charities turn into grotesque mockeries of their original cause.
i think you may be wrong based on Feinberg's assessment
There were 4 deaths and over two hundred injured. Live the rest of your life without two legs and add up the cost. Kenneth Feinberg was pretty clear that the sum collected thus far, while generous, was nowhere near what it needs to be to fully compensate all of the victims and the families of the deceased.
That May Be True
However, I'd still like to see them add the victims of the shooting sprees that took place during the week in which so much of the BPD was tied up by the investigation and manhunt.
that's an excellent idea
That's an excellent idea and we could make it happen, especially if we got Commissioner Ed Davis, Mayor Tom Menino on board first, and Gov Patrick on board next.
I believe the shooting spree
I believe the shooting spree folks will be covered (according to the Globe). Were there any non-police hurt during that day (excluding the psychological effects)?
I think they're referring to
I think they're referring to the shootings in the rest of the city, not the Watertown shootout.
Fair enough,..
Missed that angle of the discussion.
My reading of what Feinberg
My reading of what Feinberg said in today's paper was not that One Fund needed significantly more money, but that no amount of money can ever really be enough to compensate for the loss of a loved one.
Globe discussed this a.m.
It was covered in the Globe this morning, at least at a high level. Beneficiaries could receive $1 million. I most want that to go to the double amputees because they will undoubtedly have issues around working for the rest of their lives. Losing a limb will be expensive, even if you have a decent insurance plan.
It's a gift rather than reimbursement of out-of-pocket expenses, so insurance shouldn't be a part of the equation. The insurance will pay for whatever the insurance is supposed to cover.
Concerns re: no/little money for injured
I'm hearing (but haven't had a chance to research) that most of the money is going to the parents/families of the four people who died, but little/no money is going to the injured.
I'm more into helping cover medical bills, PT, rehab, time off work, etc. etc. for the people who've lost limbs than I am into making millionaires out of sad families. I agree they should receive something, but not all or even the majority.
Has anyone seen a proposed breakdown of disbursements?
Totally untrue.
Not sure where you would have gotten this idea--everyone knows that there were many people grievously injured. It's pretty easy to google. Ken Feinberg is the one administering the funds.
From Today's Globe
...payments of “well over $1 million” to each of the families of people who died in the blasts and those who lost more than one limb.
what a bill!
the lineup consists of 11 acts that you couldn't pay me $285 to sit through.
oh and Steven Wright, who I think would be reasonably entertaining.
Holy Fuck
Sorry for the obscenity, but if it isn't justified in this case, I'll resign from the human race.
A whole bunch of people get together and put on a show for the benefit of some people who have had their lives fucking wrecked, and all the people on this board can do is come up with snark and complain about it.
People with even a modicum of intelligence should get combat pay for reading some of these threads.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Universal Hub has more than its fair share
Suldog, don't let the detritus of the human race get you down. There are far more of us than them. Everyone has an asshole. Universal Hub has more than its fair share.
I'm reminded of your 40th birthday celebration which you wrote about. It still brings a smile to my face. You are awesome. Stay strong.
Somebody kick this guy's
Somebody kick this guy's soapbox.
Shrug
Shaking my head too Sul, but maybe it means things are back to normal?
I do agree there should be some more transparency. And Ticketmaster is a leech and should be donating all fees to the fund as well.
Is it going to be televised? If so take a cue from PBS and parallel telethon to take donations and focus on the victims and those who are giving and want to say something quick for their donation.
But honestly, why so much cynicism and snark for something a bit beneficial. Why let the news coverage that had the bombing on loop, milking it for all it’s worth, off the hook? CNN had it’s best numbers (thus top ad $$$ charges) in quite a while. Maybe they should donate their ad revenue too.
I'd just like to know what
I'd just like to know what "Net Proceeds go to One Fund Boston" really means. "Net proceeds" after what? If Ticketmaster, the owners of the Garden, Aramark, the performers, the promoters, etc, are all donating their time, money, and resources, then I have nothing but respect for them. But if some promoter is wrapping himself in the banner of "Boston Strong" and winds up seeing more dollars from this than Jeff Bauman does, something is seriously wrong.
Put snark aside for a second...
... and contemplate the question of why we so readily open our hearts and pockets to raise huge amounts of money for those wounded or killed in high visibility events, but we don't raise money to compensate those who were wounded or killed in more ordinary ways.
I understand that compassion is not a finite resource, and that having compassion for the April 15 victims does not take away from anyone else, but, on the other hand, money most definitely *is* a finite resources.
I don't disparage One Fund - in fact I've donated to it.
But comparisons are enlightening, and I try to put myself in the position of one of the 10,000 American parents who lost a kid to murder violence or drunk driving in 2012, and then I ask whether I'd consider it sort of a slap in the face that, while the kids who died at Newtown and the marathon bombing victims get presidential speeches, flags at half mast, and One Fund, what I get by comparison is a late night phone call from some harried clerk at the coroner's office.
My comment is not about the marathon victims or about one fund, it's about our collective callousness towards everyday murder.
I Do Appreciate The Idea Behind What You're Saying
But it comes off sounding like "These people have had enough attention and money given to them." I won't deign to suggest whether they have or not, but it sure sounds callous, even if your overarching intent is to be compassionate to more people.
Can I offer a pop psych answer as to why folks are coming out in such huge ways for this, while seemingly ignoring (or being less visible in supporting) "everyday" victims? I think it's because, for many folks, it seems as though this (the bombing deaths and injuries) is something that is now over, insofar as the violence is concerned, and we can now make every effort to push back in the other way without fear of it being to no avail. It seems like anything done now will only send things inexorably towards better. On the other hand, the gang violence stuff, the shootings and stabbings, the neighborhood stuff, seems always to be with us to some extent, and some folks are wearied by it to the extent that they don't think whatever they give, via time or money, can make as much of a difference in the long run. I know that some poor parents who lost a kid in a drive-by shooting, or some kid who was irreparably hurt in an incident wherein he or she was an innocent, if taken on an individual basis, doesn't see their situation like that. They are certainly as much to be pitied or sympathized with as the bombing victims. But I think that psychological wall is there for many, and on the other hand the contributions feel as though it is all going for definite "progress".
Your last sentence about "collective callousness" said pretty much the same thing in a nutshell.
It all sucks, doesn't it? Peace.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
what i meant to say
it is really nice that Jimmy Buffett and Dane Cook are doing a show to benefit the victims.... that being said i do not enjoy either of them and find them to be talentless. But thank them for helping
Good Line
Despite my self-righteous chest-pounding, I thought the line about Buffett/Cook was hilarious.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
interesting implementation
Most of these folks could fill a venue on their own. I'm surprised this is a one night event at the garden. Would think you could raise more by having 1-2 acts at venues all over town.
Will they be broadcasting it on TV as well - turn it into a telethon?
Live nation / ticket master
Lets call this what it is . A chance for LiveNation and Ticket master to make money on the backs of the victims . They should be ashamed of themselves . *Net Proceeds going to the one fund ? Hasn't the city of boston made you enough money ? I know you aren't from here and just enjoy raping our city but itsnt it about time that you have back? 100 PERCENT of gross proceeds should be going to the victims , livenation and ticketmaster should be donating their services and covering production costs out of their own pockets so that ALL ticket sales will go to the victims that they are trying to exploit .
BOSTON will not sit by and let more scumbags victimize us. WE DEMAND TRANSPARENCY . If the Mayor is sanctioning this event then is like to know why he hasn't pushed for this to happen as well , he owes it to the cities residents and the victims .
I Hate To Do This, But...
Devil's advocate time.
Whatever is being done gratis by performers, there are still everyday working stiff folks who will have to provide their services to make this work. Yeah, there are probably a goodly number of them who might be willing to work the night for free, but not everybody can afford something like that. So, those folks have to be paid.
Absolutely correct about service fees, though. They're mostly a sham and a scam to begin with, and doubly so when connected to something like this is intended to be.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
I agree but notice unsaid
I agree but notice unsaid live nation and ticket master should be paying for the production costs out of their own pocket including paying production staff. They are a multi billion dollar company and can afford it . They have made plenty of money of of Bostonians and they have a chance to finally give back and they blew it
Just got my ticket, and there
Just got my ticket, and there were no service fees. So Ticketmaster got something right finally.
Wow!
James Taylor, Carole King, J. Geils Band and Boston are the only groups in this concert I'd pay to go and see. As for the other ones...mmmmmmmm, I don't think so.
"And Special Guests".....
Anyone want to bet that means Ernie and the Automatics?
Putting Buffett on the bill was a smart move, guaranteed sell out now. Those fucking Parrotheads make Deadheads look like pikers when it comes to shelling out the money.
Worst. Lineup. Ever. I'll
Worst. Lineup. Ever. I'll sens $100 to cancel this forever.