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Police: Woman wasn't attacked by livery driver in Allston

Boston Police today released a short statement on what we all thought was the second case of a woman getting into an unlicensed cab and being sexually attacked by the driver: Basically, it didn't happen:

After a thorough investigation the Boston Police has determined that the August 18, 2013 report of an alleged sexual assault in the area of the Allston /Brighton line was erroneous. Evidence, witness interviews and statements, led detectives to believe the facts of the case did not support the allegation as reported.

The investigation is closed.

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This seems so shady. Almost like it was fabricated by someone in the taxi industry.

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That seems like a bit of a stretch. There are unfortunately a large number of false rape accusations in Boston and even when they are uncovered there are absolutely no consequences for the women who bring them to the police. It is unbelievable that a woman can absolutely ruin a man's reputation and have him potentially lose his job and family with no repercussions whatsoever.

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There are unfortunately a large number of false rape accusations in Boston and even when they are uncovered there are absolutely no consequences for the women who bring them to the police.

Be sure, when citing your sources for this information, to differentiate between "false accusation" and "mistaken identification".

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....to the man whose life is destroyed in the "process".

There's no difference between "sure, that black man you randomly dragged off the street, yeah, he's the one" and "I was not actually raped nor was it that person, but I'm going to claim it was to punish them."

But please, do continue living in a fairyland where women don't exploit a criminal justice system that has, over the last 50 years, been manipulated to make false rape accusations

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I wish I could just type lol and leave it at that because this is some of the stupidest crap I've ever read

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Oh, yeah, 2013. Where we have this thing called DNA analysis.

DNA analysis means that the right rapist gets charged and jailed.

Historically, mistaken identity was a big problem. Currently, it is an exceedingly rare issue with rape cases.

Care to entertain us with further melodramatic "just so" stories about a conspiracy of evil women trying to ruin Teh Mens lives?

Or are you going to produce somes statistics here?

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Burden is on poster to substantiate, which I'm sure he will find difficult.
But we have at least one example, right here, of a made-up allegation- unless Dan Conley and the cops are lying. So it does happen (probably quite rarely, as you imply, Swrrly) and when it does it should be prosecuted as a felony.

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I agree - if this was a false police report, there should be consequences.

But I'm not seeing where somebody got the Willie Bennett treatment, either.

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Aside from the fact that there are multiple studies on the subject, all of which show rape has the highest false-accusation rate of any category of crime (and in some cases is as high as 30%)...

Why don't you try looking up how many (mostly black) men they've freed via DNA testing, most of whom were accused of raping or murdering white women?

Women are so protected by our legal system that in order to provide "justice", the legal system grasps at the most disadvantaged group it can find. Black men.

Feminists really don't care; gotta break some eggs to make omlettes. Just like they don't care about due process. Nosiree. We allow people accused of murder to have due process, but men accused of sex-related crimes? Nosiree, bob. Want a restraining order? All you have to do is tell a judge "I'm afraid" and bam, you got it, lady - even though it goes on the guy's record and affects his employment. He doesn't get to contest any of the accusations, because oooo, it might be too scary.

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The only reason a woman would get a restraining order in a district court without hearing from the man is if the man doesn't show up in court despite being notified.

Bravo for trying to pin racism on battered women, though, you must feel so proud.

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In MA, if someone seeks a restraining order, the target of the order is not informed until it is served upon them, at which point the order becomes part of their criminal record.

At no point prior to the issuance of the order can you challenge any statements made by your accuser.

Guess how many employers do CORI checks? Guess what shows up on a CORI report? Guess what happens when an employer sees a restraining order?

MA has some of the most aggressive restraining order laws in the country - all you need to do is tell a judge you fear someone you have a relationship with and bam, they've got a restraining order against them.

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So I'll speak up on the subject.

A judge needs probable cause (usually a verbal report from the victim and officer) to issue a 24 hour emergency restraining order. This happens all the time. From my experience, there is almost always clear evidence that a violent domestic incident happened (neighbor calls 911, witness sees the violence, victim has visible marks, suspect has prior history, etc.) And these 24 hour orders are only given when court isn't open (4pm to 8am).

On the other hand, plenty of women (or men for that matter), want a restraining order for circumstances which simply don't require restraining orders. They are ultimately denied the order, and that is that.

And no, you need much more than fear to get an order. You need some pretty good articulable facts to show that you are in physical danger.

Of course there are cases where men are screwed by unstable women who accuse them of things they did not do, and if this can be proven, records can be sealed. I'd say this circumstance is pretty rare.

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... was for this statement: "There are unfortunately a large number of false rape accusations in Boston." Does the Innocence Project have a study that shows this?

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There are many cases in the innocence project where MISTAKEN IDENTITY is the problem.

Mistaken identity IS NOT THE SAME as false accusation. It is historically a problem, yes, but it is not the same. It used to happen when a woman was raped and terrorized and police told her "we got a guy who matches the description".

IN 2013 we have DNA testing to clear those cases and make sure the correct people are charged and the incorrect people are not. So, mistaken identity cases are exceptionally rare.

Anon was claiming that false accusation was rampant. Both you and I asked for more information confirming that and all I got was anecdote, all you got was something that I clearly explained ahead of time was not the same.

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I 'mistakenly' identified you as the women who tried to snatch my child off the street.

Oops !!!! My bad! Sorry you were arrested, dragged away in front of your family and neighbors, name [and pic/video?] now permanently written in stone on the internet as a woman who tried to kidnap a child, but you forgive me, right? I mean, c'mon! It was a case of mistaken identity, that's all!

Swirly, you wear your ideology on your sleeve. I get it. Males are oppressors, females are oppressed, whites are inherently racist bigots, especially 'scary' middle class and 'uneducated' poor white people, social democratic western Europe is 'progressive' Nirvana. We just do almost everything the wrong way in America.

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Swirly might be a lot of things, but she probably isn't a kidnapper, especially if there is no evidence to say otherwise.

So if you accused a middle aged woman with no criminal history of a crime like this, there is probably a 100X better chance of the state taking your kid away and throwing you into a mental health facility than seeing Swirrly go to jail for attempted kidnapping.

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Making s**t up is not the same as providing actual statistics (including cite). see also "straw man." Just because it fits your worldview, does not make it empirically true.

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Shouldn't you be upvoting something on reddit right now

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stuart_%28mur...

Ask Willie Bennett about his thoughts on how Boston Police treated the investigation of the murder of a white woman.

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There are already consequences for false allegations of any crime. Most "false rape allegations" actually involve real cases of rape but are cases of mistaken identity or other such circumstance. We don't know the facts of this case so we can't make assumptions. All we can do is look at broad statistics. People who claim that there is an "epidemic of false rape allegations" are simply wrong and do a lot of damage to rape victims. Please take a look at the actual statistics before you blow things out of proportion.

The women of Boston are not evil creatures roaming the streets just looking to accuse innocent men of rape. Seriously, no one wants to go through the pain of a trial or face judgement from peers or family for reporting a rape or assault. There's actually a lot of societal pressure on women to keep things quiet if they have been assaulted. Please think before you speak.

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It's scary to contemplate, but there is no shortage of women or girls out there who would make false accusations of this or that, often simply BECAUSE it creates drama and brings them attention. And our society, even some laws, enables this, because it gives an extra pass to certain types of people making certain types of allegations.

And ever hear of those witchcraft trials in Salem, 1690? You know, the ones where a group of young women accused others [mostly older women] of being witches, which led to their executions? Ever hear of the epidemic of child abuse charges against multiple child care givers and facilities back in the 1980s, which are now considered to have been part of an out of control witchhunt?

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It's scary to contemplate, but there is no shortage of men or boys out there who would go out and commit mass murder because of this or that, often simply BECAUSE it creates drama and brings them attention. And our society, even some laws, enables this, because it gives an extra pass to certain types of people making certain types of allegations.

Ever hear of the McCarthy hearings, which are now considered to have been part of an out of control witchhunt?

Fixed that for you, HTH, HAND.

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There are a large number of unsubstantiated claims on UHub, with absolutely no consequences to the people who post them.

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It did strike me as odd that this crime was described as almost identical to the first one, yet was declared unrelated to it. It would have been strange that two separate attackers used the same unusual M.O. within such a short time.

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I have heard tell of prostitues who, when their customers refuse to pay, will call the police to the scene on a "rape in progress" and file a report against the customer, which they will then drop when the customer pays. Livery driver, late at night, prostitute. Wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever heard. If its not this, its something trully bizarre.

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How many prostitutes do you know. Or are the johns the people you are talking to, are a lot of your friends prostitutes or johns? Or are you just throwing out things you heard on the playground?

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I do not know any prostitutes. However, I'll just say that I'm not, as you suggest, "just throwing things out I've heard on the playground." By the way, I would not go to a playground where people talked about things like this. That sounds like a seedy playground.

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And I once heard that alligators live in the sewers of New York, and that this lady who had a big beehive hairdo dies because her hair was just full of spiders....

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Or is it a simple case of woman with mental illness filing false report?

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I was afraid of this. Seemed like too much of a coincidence. People in the media need to remember to use the qualifier "allegedly" when describing a reported crime.

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People in the media need to check their facts before reporting a suspected crime (or anything, for that matter).

Using idiotic and insulting legal disclaimers like "allegedly" is a poor substitite for proper and accurate reporting.

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But you ladies still need to watch yourselves on that block.

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Waits for Will to pass by.

Sorry, Will, but I'm no lady. You men need to watch yourselves - live in fear, always! Heh heh.

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Not to mention the arrogant "you MUST give us the information now, even if it might be false" attitude of the media.

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