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Who goes to Mary Ann's for food? Nobody, that's who
By adamg on Tue, 03/19/2013 - 8:12am
The Cleveland Circle bar goes before the Boston Licensing Board next week for permission to ditch its food-serving license and just serve hard drinks for men who want to get drunk fast - or BC students who just want to relax, at any rate.
Mary Ann's was one of a number of Boston watering holes dinged by a new city enforcement effort over the past four months against bars with food serving licenses that didn't actually serve food. Like the others, Mary Ann's was given an warning.
Bars can go all liquid, but only after explaining to the board why they should be allowed to ditch the food and be granted a coveted "general on premises all alcohol beverages" license that has no food requirement.
Also seeking permission to end the food charade: The Beacon Hill Pub, 149A Charles St.
The board's weekly petitions hearing will begin at 10 a.m. on Wednesday, March 27, in its eighth-floor hearing room in City Hall.
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i don't even use
the glassware at either of those joints. the city should do itself a favor and make sure they get an exemption.
you can order pizza to the bar if you are really hankering.
But what will the rats at BHP
But what will the rats at BHP eat?
isn't it spelled "Mary Ann's " ?
On their sign, yes
So I've changed the spelling. The license application, however, is for "Monday Morning, Inc. dba 'Maryanne's,' which is where I got the original spelling.
eating may ann's food..
not easy to do with the thick scent of vomit in the air.
didnt they used to have one of those disgusting hotdog roasters on the bar?
No Room for DudeBros
Those are both two bars that astound me that they still exist. The downstairs men's restroom at The Rat was cleaner than the main floor of those places.
If Lockhorn's could be replaced by the more respectable Jeannie Johnston... Why has not the combination of coke busts and underage drinkers and fights caused both Mary Ann's and The Beacon Hill Pub to be replaced in the same manner?
You can have my $2 Knickerbockers pounder...
Don't take them away.
...when you pry if from my cold dead hands.
How do they exist? A rich connected family that actually owns the buildings, inc. the TAM, Sully's Tap, BHP, & Mary Ann's.
I'm still mourning the Bow & Arrow but you can't fight a Harvard landlord in the People's Republic. I believe they had another one in Central Square also, and that place really was bad news, drug-wise, but the Bow & Arrow was just out-gentrified--coulda been movie-tized like Cheers.
True, don't drink from the tap in these places, and the plasticware is sketchy, but joints like these have a lot of history and characters and I would hate to see them yuppified like your "Irish" JP/Rozzy pubs.
O tempora, o mores
I join you in deep mourning for the Bow & Arrow, venue of my dissipated undergrad years, $1.35 Knickerbockers and 10-cent hot dogs, darts and pinball in the back and a live-and-let-drink attitude up front. Learned more useful stuff knocking elbows there with the facilities staff than I absorbed in the Yard, though perhaps that's a function of time put in. How low as a people have we sunk when kids grow up thinking 'craft' beer and $17 burgers are the hallmarks of a bar? Jesus, sometimes I wish the Soviets were still around threatening to march in and teach us a lesson ...
Long live Mary Ann's, and its contracting ilk; may staggering feet stick to their floors for years to come.
the place in Central was
the Cambridgeport Saloon (more recently, Cambridgeport Baboon). I miss that place!
Why has not the combination
Because Carmen Ortiz isn't interested unless the owners also own the building free and clear?
ROFL
at the Rat comment. I don't think I want to know more.
Never knew Mary Ann's was
Never knew Mary Ann's was technically on the Boston border, I always thought that was strictly Brookline.
No
As someone continuing to harp for later closings, late night transportation, saying yes more often than not, and fixing NIMBYism and bad zoning; NO.
Allowing watering holes that do nothing but try to pack in as many drunks and sell swig isn't really good for a neighborhood, doesn't really provide much of a employment opportunity, and really attracts the worst patrons possible. It's exactly the type of establishment that leads to many of the issues that then cause better places to get a bad rap, and denied before even being considered. With all the places serving drinks in this city, we really don't need more bars. We need more late night eateries, lounges, and unique options that aren't packed Dives or Shady clubs.
They should be expanding their seating and late night food offerings, rather going cheap and trying to just sell as much booze in solo cups as possible.
After all, isn't there a law against serving drunk patrons? Kinda hard to stay in compliance, or even pretend to be, when all you do is push alcohol.
why would you want to eat the
why would you want to eat the food prepared at either of these places? they typically allow you to bring your own food if you really are that hungry.
Isn't that the point?
Allowing them to be the lowest common denominator dive gets you a really bad dive bar with questionable patrons and practices.
I’ve seen a lot of Dives swing the other way after being sold, with food service and lots of Micobrews on tap, becoming pretty interesting and fun places to hang out. They’re better for it, and so is the neighborhoods they’re in.
What about this recent violation?
The board ought to deal with this first before they allow any changes to their license.
The non-use of the common victualer's license?
If so, that came up in January and they, like all the other bars that got caught, were given a warning, which basically means no penalty unless they get caught again.
At the time, the board was telling bar operators who asked they could either install a hot-dog or popcorn machine (the definition of "food" being somewhat lax, I guess) or apply to change their license to a non-food version.
Link to underage & overcrowding
"You know, half of this bar is underage tonight"
http://abnewsflash.com/?p=1641
Disney World
We all don't want to live in Disney World and the Cambridgeport Saloon had more sack then all the bars this side of the river. O!!
Oh yeah that was the name,
Oh yeah that was the name, Cambidgeport Saloon. All the other dives of this franchise just had small time weed dealers but this place was outta control. I walked into a deal that was of the no witnesses size.
Turned around, never came back, a year later they were busted.
The FSUs ruined the Saloon
A shame; it was a good dive with a terrific jukebox.
FSU?
My googling skills aren't good enough to figure out this acronym.
https://www.google.com/search
https://www.google.com/search?q=fsu+boston
Thanks
Interesting. ;-}
I had to laugh at the
I had to laugh at the "Friends Stand United" moniker. I never heard the acronym expanded into anything other "Fuck Shit Up".
You wouldn't have been
You wouldn't have been laughing if you actually knew Allston and Kenmore Square venues 1995-2002 and heard FSU being mentioned. I would have probably left and hailed a cab at that point.
Yes, a friend of mine got her
Yes, a friend of mine got her knee broken by those "united friends" because she had the unmitigated audacity to be at the Paradise when they decided to fuck shit up. No laughing matter.