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At Suffolk Business School's "Build Boston" forum about casinos last Thursday morning, Stephen Crosby, chairman of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission, shared a brief, private chat with No Eastie Casino co-chair Celeste Ribeiro Myers. Crosby conveyed the commission's goal to facilitate a process wherein communities see as many benefits and as few consequences as possible from expanded gambling. Myers politely shared with Crosby her concerns that "communities are being worked by the process instead of the other way around." She also shared her frustration at community members' inability to get any real data or answers from Suffolk Downs or the City.

Crosby reassured Myers, telling her that the opposition's voices are being heard. "That's what people like you are for," he said. "To share your side and inform residents."

When Chairman Crosby took the stage for the opening remarks, he proceeded to make what some might find to be an especially candid observation about the relationship between casino developers and host communities. With Foxwoods CEO Scott Butera and Suffolk Downs COO Chip Tuttle sitting a few feet away, Crosby said, "We know that this is not a fair negotiation in many respects."

He's said this a handful of times over the last year, and guess what – he's right. Gazillion-dollar casino companies, with their nearly unlimited advertising budgets, are old pros at getting what they want out of communities in which they want to build. You might say that even in casino negotiations, the house always wins.

That's why Boston shouldn't even entertain the idea that dropping one of the world's largest casinos into a densely populated, local business-driven community will be a net gain for the neighborhood. It's why hundreds of ordinary East Boston residents, representing a true cross-section of the neighborhood, are standing up to defend the neighborhood we love. (VIDEO: "East Boston Residents Speak Out Against the Casino")

We do it begrudgingly, because we all have better things we could be doing with our time. We didn't wake up one morning thinking, "Let's fight a multinational corporation today!" We'd rather be spending more time doing the things we love: organizing neighborhood associations, fixing bikes at the Central Square farmer's market, leading parishioners, taking our kids to Constitution Beach, supporting local businesses, ballroom dancing, weeding our community garden plots, studying English, joining a nonprofit board, or training for our next 5K.

Instead, we're forced to oppose a predatory corporation, run by billionaires, that wants to move in up the street, suck dry local businesses and working-class neighbors, and place yet another 24-7 burden on a neighborhood that's been through enough. A burden about which our elected officials have been starry-eyed for years, ignorant of its consequences. (ICYMI: "A quick and dirty rundown of why a Boston casino is a bad idea"). We'd rather be doing other things, for sure, but we stand up and declare, "Enough."

We fight this because we believe East Boston is defined by hard work and long hours, not shortcuts. Eastie is the safest neighborhood in Boston. We're supportive of families with children, thousands of whom go to school less than a mile from where the casino would be built. Ours is a neighborhood in recovery from its own history of substance abuse problems that can hardly stand hundreds more of its residents succumbing to the traps of gambling addiction.

East Boston is a neighborhood of older adults who have seen their fair share of struggle here. They've stood up to similarly powerful forces trying to come in and take advantage of the neighborhood. There's a spirit of activism, of stubbornness – an idea that we know how to run our own lives, thank you very much, and we don't need anything or anyone – airports, casinos – to save us. We're a people with a big imagination, able to come together to envision a plan for the neighborhood's future that provides "jobs with justice" and benefits more than just a few wealthy casino owners.

We're told that a casino is the only development solution for the land at Suffolk Downs, the only way to bring jobs to East Boston. This is simply not true. Mayoral candidate and District Attorney Dan Conley knows this.* When asked this week what he'd do as mayor if the East Boston casino proposal were to fail, he said he'd support "a broader vision" for the neighborhood, recalling the decision Mayor Menino once faced of whether or not to bring the Patriots' stadium to South Boston.

"Instead of one project, a stadium, the city has created tens of thousands of jobs across a decade and it's still going," he told reporters. "Now it's referred to as the Innovation District. . . . Maybe that's what the area over in East Boston ought to be? I think there are many things we could do over there with some imagination and some partnership and some planning."**

Indeed.

This is another turning point moment for the neighborhood. I hear it in the voice of the mother who says her family will most likely move away if a casino comes to town. Her family has that option. Tens of thousands of others do not.

We speak out not because we hate development or love to fight. We do it because we must. We sure aren't getting the whole truth from Suffolk Downs or our elected officials. We perceive a threat to the place we call home, and our instinct is to stand up and fight, yes, but also to envision a neighborhood that continues to determine its own destiny, support its own, build from the bottom up, and welcome all who share in that vision.

Steve Holt is a writer who lives in East Boston. He volunteers with No Eastie Casino

* Note: Conley says he's "agnostic" on the casino issue in general.
**Not an endorsement

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So basically, "Wahhhhhh." A community referendum is required, but I guess if the referendum turns out supporting a casino, you've decided you know better than rest of the community? Trust the community, and live with the result.

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Steve

Yes. We have heard this all before. We get it. You don't want a casino in East Boston for all of the reasons why Casinos are bad (insert list here). We also get it that you want only "good" development and businesses without "predatory" evil corporations behind them, that don't create environmental concerns, traffic, won't compete with local businesses, won't serve alcohol, or generate any level of crime. But when you are talking about over 150 acres of land nestled in an urban environment, good luck trying to find such a mythical development that I only imagine exists in some utopian never never land.

I am sorry but being so opposed to a Casino development at Suffolk Downs for the endless list of reasons you cite has made you and others the unwilling owners of the NIMBY label you refuse to wear.

Am I wrong? I don't think so.

If I am, then you should be able to easily direct me to the "equal time" you and No Eastie Casino have spent opposing Steve Wynn and his proposal to construct a $1.5 billion casino resort in Everett.

If, as you argue, all bad things will come to those in the surrounding area as you so often say, then why are you not opposing Wynn's proposal with the same vigor and conviction? Won't that proposal result in all of the same ills you claim will be visited upon the East Boston community considering that it will be just 2.3 miles from the East Boston border (i.e. Nay Street)? What say you about the fact that Wynn Everett will be geographically CLOSER to East Boston's Central Square than Jeffries Point would be to Suffolk Downs? Will all of us that you are so concerned with magically decide to avoid the Casino because its not at Suffolk Downs but in Everett? The only difference is that if it's in Everett, we can forget about any possibility of getting something out of it. All things being equal, I guess I have a real problem with that.

The way I see it, Steve Wynn has no better friends than you and NEC right now.

I look forward to hearing your explanation on this one.

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You raise a very interesting point and one that I never thought of. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the folks at Wynn are lending support to the local opposition here in East Boston. It all makes sense.

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Anon 9:43,
I'll reply to this one question and then let it be, purely because it is such a good one.

Quite simply: We'd love to oppose Wynn with the same vigor as we do Suffolk Downs. We don't because it's a matter of resources.

Financially, time-wise, we're barely scraping by with what's on our plate in East Boston. To add to our plate 42,000 more Everett voters we need to reach is simply too much.

While we are opposed to a casino anywhere in metro Boston, long ago, we identified East Boston as our sole area of focus. Despite the presence now of two more proposals in the Boston area, here is where our focus will remain.

Steve

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Steve

I say this with the utmost respect, but I think you just admitted that you and No Eastie Casino are either hypocrites or even worse in Steve Wynn's back pocket. You and the NEC crowd have specifically targeted Suffollk Downs and Caesars in everything you communicate. I haven't heard the same comments about Wynn or Everett - despite the fact that by your logic concerning proximity, Wynn would have a greater impact on the businesses of Central Square and the residents of Eagle Hill and Jeffries Point than Suffolk Downs would. What type of "resources" does it take to be present and state your opposition at the meetings held on Wynn's proposal or to include that in your Facebook page? What "resources" are you referring to? How many meetings or communications have you or NEC initiated regarding Wynn? What criticism of Everett's elected officials exists by you and NEC? I think you all need to start practicing transparency before you start preaching it. Time to come clean.

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Anon,

If you checked, that the group is called No EASTIE Casino, and it's been around since before the Everett proposal was ever a glint in Steve Wynn's eye.

I don't want a casino in Everett, either, but I don't live there-- who am I to tell them Everett residents to decide to do? Neither place has to say 'yes' to a casino. That's in the law.

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I think Anon's point is that the ill social effects from living in close proximity to a casino will be as great, perhaps even greater from a large casino located in Everett. The difference between the two sites is that residents in East Boston get a chance to extract concessions from the developers at Suffolk in exchange for allowing them to build there. Whatever happens at the Everett site, residents of Eastie and the surrounded towns will basically be stuck with, without any leverage to negotiate a mitigation package.

I'll go on a limb and say that voter approval in Everett is just short of a fait accompli. The proposed site for the casino is in a fairly developped commercial area of town. While there are some homes in that area, the lions share of Everett's population seems to be settled north of Route 16, which will serve as a physical and psychological barrier from whatever ill effects the casino might cause.

My gut says that when I wake up in my Winthrop home on May 1, 2016, there will likely be a casino in spitting distance. The distinction will be can I look to a new park or a new highway interchange and say, "Well, at the very least, I got something for it."

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So are you saying that Route 16 provides a barrier between the residents of Everett and the casino, but that having a trucking route, produce market, and power plant between the Everett casino and East Boston provides no barrier?

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My position is that Route 16 will provide a barrier in Everett for the political purpose of convincing voters there that a casino in the south end of their city won't negatively affect them.

If your contention is that casinos will create a subclass of degenerate gamblers who will become gaming obsessed and suddenly stop going to breakfast at Donnas on Saturday morning or grabbing dinner at Royal Roast Beef on a random Thursday night - it won't matter if the casino is located at Suffolk Downs, Everett, Fort Point or any town within the Route 128 belt. The social impact on these neighborhoods won't be any less. However, if the casino is put at Suffolk Downs - hypothetically speaking - we might at least get some better functioning roads out of the deal.

I grew up in Connecticut and as a result, I've seen two test cases for towns managing the presence of a casino. When Foxwoods opened, the surrounding towns fought the development tooth and nail. When the courts finally ruled in favor of the Pequots, they basically had carte blanche to plop down their gambling empire in the middle of the woods without even installing a traffic light on the adjoining road.

Contrast that to 4 years later when the Mohegans won federal approval and revealed their plans to build a casino. The surrounding towns - realizing the political inevitability of the casino - negotiated with the tribe and as a result, the Mohegans built an entire road network and adjoining infrastructure that allowed the casino to exist within its own bubble while vastly limiting the traffic/crime impact to the surrounding towns. I've known a number people who grew up and live around the Mohegan Sun area and their opinion on the casino ranges from indifference to a generally positive.

I live in Winthrop and have come to accept the political reality that a casino is likely coming, somewhere nearby. If I am going to live near a casino, I would much rather live nnear Mohegan Sun (potentially Suffolk) than Foxwoods (Potentially Everett).

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You are right that it if a casino is necessary it would be better to have one that works with all the surrounding communities to minimize impact. It is scary that Wynn hasn't released any plans of how people will get to his casino through the bottlenecks of Rt. 99 and Rt. 16 and that he has already said he doesn't care about Boston even though the shortest route off of I-93 is through Boston. Basically, people in Everett (especially connected people) are the only ones to get some of the cash wynndfall from the Everett casino.

Even though you think it's fighting a losing battle, can't those opposed to an urban, residential casino stick to their convictions and voice their opinions against these development? Neither of these have to happen. Suffolk Downs isn't exactly promising to build an entire road network; just one flyover that feeds straight into a complex set of traffic lights. As luck would have it, we'll already know Everett's decision when it is our turn to vote and we'll know what mitigation will be promised by Suffolk Downs and how much of it will actually stay in the neighborhood.

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That's all well and good, but I think a more effective strategy is to continue voicing your opposition to a casino, while at the same time plan for the "worst case scenario."

In this case, I would define preparing as advocating for specific mitigation measures you would like to see n place, should a casino happen. Frankly, other than vague comments like road improvements or neighborhood improvements , I haven't heard anybody on either side say what they would specifically like to extract from Suffolk in exchange for building a casino. We should be telling our elected officials what we want from them, instead of sending them to blindly negotiate on our behalf.

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All signs and studies point to the fact that over 50% of adults in East Boston don't want a casino. Why should we prepare for mitigation when we're going to vote a casino down entirely?

Instead, our elected representatives should be looking at that reality and start trying to represent our community by refusing to work with SD on a mitigation package. "Negotiating on our behalf" should be not negotiating at all if the majority doesn't want it at all.

No Eastie Casino would love to work with our elected representatives, but they aren't listening. And if that's the case, we'll be forced to vote them out.

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What published study are you basing your assertion that the majority of East Boston voters don't want a casino? There was a story in the Globe in March that showed that city residents narrowly supported a casino at Suffolk, but the story explicitly said there weren't enough East Boston residents polled to draw any conclusion for that specific neighborhood.

If you have some sort of documentation, I would be interested in seeing it.

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I think you who have just provided the basic definition of what being a NIMBY is. I am very familiar with the name of the organization formed to defeat a casino at Suffolk Downs. Seeing that the proximity of the proposed Wynn Casino is closer to some business districts and residential areas of East Boston than Suffolk Downs is and there is no similar opposition from NEC to that plan, calling itself "No Eastie Casino" is a misnomer. Or is it? I think the group might want to consider a name change to "No Eastie Casino but Yes Everett Casino" because it is pretty obvious by their silence concerning Wynn and their focus on Suffolk Downs that's their objective. Not having the "resources" is a cop out. It takes just as much time to type a post, do a standout, or just simply include the words "The proposed Wynn Casino in Everett" in all of the opposition communications that come from NEC mouth pieces. Do you not find it odd that they don't ever mention it or raise the fact that it will be just 2.5 miles from Liberty Plaza in Central Square? Isn't it at all concerning that NEC never raises a concern that people who live in Shore Plaza will be closer to the front door of Wynn Everett than they will be to Suffolk Downs? Of course it isn't because they are not about opposing all casinos (although they say they are) - its about defeating Suffolk Downs and making sure East Boston gets nothing by way of whatever may be offered in a mitigation package - even if all the impacts from Wynn affect East Boston due to its proximity. Care to guess who "Wynns" in that scenario if they are successful? I guess actions do speak louder than words.

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Anon, you obviously don't live in East Boston.

But if you looked on a map, the entire city of Chelsea is in between East Boston and Everett. In order to drive to Everett from anywhere people live in East Boston, you'd have to go over a bridge, through downtown Chelsea City (or around it), and then through the packing district on the other side, which is so full of potholes so big one of them is bound to swallow you whole. There is almost no way to go by public transportation from East Boston to Everett, and only hard-core people bike that way.

For that basic geographical reason, if your main reasons for opposing a casino is traffic, drunk driving, rising car insurance rates, and increased opportunistic crime, Everett might as well be Milford it's so far away.

If your main reason to oppose a casino is increased gambling addiction, yes, Everett might as well be in your living room.

If your main reasons for opposing a casino is politicians trying to prop up the state economy on an industry that is "not well" (according to Steve Wynn), then the effects will be pretty close to home, which is why "I oppose a casino in Everett, too." (There, I said it.)

It's not NIMBYism, it's reality.

And as for the 'beneifts from mitigation', Steve already covered that in an earlier post.

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Gladstone Street as a matter of fact. But hey don't get mad at me. Talk to Steve, No Eastie Casino, and Mapquest. I don't want to put words in their mouth but my understanding from listening to their arguments about how a Casino impacts neighborhoods and businesses is that the ones closest suffer the most (their words more or less, not mine). I'm sure Wynn Everett will be closer to Central Square or Shore Plaza by boat or crow, but I used mapquest to keep it realistic.

So after reading your comment, let me see if I have this right: you agree that businesses and neighborhoods closest to the Casino are impacted the most by all the bad things on the "Steve/NEC List" except when they are basically in another municipality and are separated by interceding pothole laden streets and industrial zoned areas? Distance doesnt matter. If that's the case, then wouldn't most of East Boston have nothing to worry about with Suffolk Downs?

It's amazing how people just won't admit when they have a shitty argument.

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Now Chip, trying to make it sound like Wynn has NoEastie in it's back pocket is really you just refusing to address the real concerns people like Steve have. Let's try and be a better person. K?

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No fair!!....you obviously have some devastating evidence showing that the Suffolk Downs CEO is attacking East Boston casino opponents online....and you won't share it??

I mean...what kind of person would make such a charge without having evidence. Certainly not a "better" person.

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Well, Chip, I can only speak as the voice of your better angels. See... I just feel like saying that people who a fighting for the very fabric of their community because they're Steve Wynn's lemmings is rather sad and pathetic. So that's all Chip. Stop being sad and pathetic. Also... call your relatives a little more often. Its the right thing to do.

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Well there is definitely a pathetic person in this reply thread, but I don't think its who you think it is.

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I hate the idea of a casino in Everett or East Boston but I really can't argue with the previous poster's point. I think what is being said is by working on making sure that just one of two locations doesn't become an option you are only helping to increase the other location's chances. In that case, being in Wynn's pocket literally or symbolically is really the same thing.

It is simple math. With only 3 locations trying to get one greater Boston license, if East Boston votes no and Everett votes yes then by defeating Suffolk Downs' proposal, you have mathematically increased Everett's chances from 33.3% to 50%. Like it or not, I can see why people might say you are helping Wynn.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

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Truth is,

Everett says 'no',
+East Boston says 'no'
+Revere says 'no',
+Milford say 'no'.
_________________________
=no casino in greater Boston.

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You are correct, but...

Can you honestly say...in your heart of hearts that Everett and/or Revere would say no? (Suffolk also owns the Wonderland property...entirely in Revere)

Are you prepared to double down (pun unitended) that the voters in those towns will say no? Because if they end up saying yes, we live with those consequences.

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I don't know anyone who lives in Everett, and only a few who live in Revere. Do I know what they think or how they'll vote? No clue. Yes, we'll have to live with the consequences. Are *you* prepared to double down and fight for your quality of life?

If No Eastie Casino had 1/10th as much money as SD (who has spent a million dollars already on this campaign), we could conquer the world! But as it is, I'm just a working mom with two babies (1 and 3) who is stupid (or optimistic?) enough think that neighbors banding together can conquer the machine.

The reason why I'm in this fight is that I think that Eastie can do better. Do I think that Revere can do better? Yes. Do I think that Everett can do better? Yes. But to people who vote there think so, too? I have no idea.

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I will agree to shut up until we see what Everett says. Then we can revisit this discussion.

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But seriously...

A tid-bit of relevant information has come to my attention. Back in April, two members of No Eastie Casino — co-chair Celeste Myers and member John Ribeiro — attended a meeting of Everett's Board of Aldermen, speaking publicly and supporting the anti-casino group there. It even made the papers!

http://www.everettindependent.com/2013/04/24/casin...

Some will still call it another piece of an elaborate coverup, but hey -- what can you do?

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Steve - welcome back ;)

I don't think anyone is calling it an elaborate cover up or suggesting that there are weekly paychecks going to anyone on the NEC Like List from Facebook. I think what I have done here is exactly what you and Celeste have done regularly and that is to illustrate a point. Nothing more. Nothing less. Over the weeks you have raised a number of points and arguments about why a Casino at Suffolk Downs is bad for East Boston. Although I may not agree with you for a host of reasons, I don't doubt for a minute your or Celeste's sincerity and loyalty to the issue. However, despite your laser focus opposition to a Casino at Suffolk Downs, sometimes it is important to get perspective. With that, I think you will agree (based on simple objective measurements) with the fact that the proximity of Everett's proposed location to East Boston makes it an extremely relevant topic in any discussion that is truly about "No EASTIE" Casino. Therefore, having not heard a lot about Everett from you, I thought it was fair to raise and question the motives and intentions of the group's opposition. I do this not to unearth some sinister plot - but to illustrate that while arguing against Suffolk Downs you could be, albeit unintentionally, ensuring the success of Wynn's proposal to the detriment of the East Boston community (i.e. a Casino in Everett impacting East Boston without any mitigation). Maybe you are all OK with that and that's fine too as its your right to be. But I don't think there is any rational argument that can refute that premise.

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Thanks for the gracious response and kind words. And your illustration is well taken. I hope neither community gets a casino, but as has been said before, the voters will decide in the end!

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I think you would agree that everyone's first responsibility is to protect their family. Watching out for the people around you is next on the list. Just because you don't want something in your own backyard doesn't mean that you want it in someone else's. It is just fighting the closest threat. We're not talking about a power plant or a dump that we need to put somewhere, casinos don't need to be in the city at all. Why would you put an establishment that has been proven to increase addiction in its immediate surroundings in a dense residential area? Why would you put a bunch of restaurants that have food subsidized by gamblers' losses in the same neighborhood as a bunch of family owned businesses? A casino doesn't belong in Everett or East Boston, but don't begrudge Steve for fighting the one in his neighborhood.

There are a lot of people in Boston who agree that a casino doesn't belong in an dense residential neighborhood, but there are very few that are helping fight either of these casinos. It's hard work to fight well funded corporations that have full backing of local politicians in just your spare time. I give Steve props for trying and for this well thought out posting.

Please don't pretend that the Everett casino affects East Boston the same as Suffolk Downs. Suffolk Downs is much more accessible than Everett, by car, bike, or blue line. All people coming to Suffolk Downs will be driving through Eastie, while no one would pass through Eastie to get to the Everett casino (except from the airport:). While it may be almost as close "geographically", its burdens will be largely carried by Everett, Chelsea, Somerville, and Charlestown. Sullivan Square would be a mess and Wynn hasn't even come out with a traffic plan. I imagine Menino will be the one fighting that fight for us. There is already a lot of power that will be against the Wynn casino, I think it's fine for a few Eastie residents to voice an alternate opinion on Suffolk Downs.

Also, why does no one see the hypocrisy in our officials only wanting to put these "luxury" casinos in working class neighborhoods. If our mayor thinks casinos are so great why isn't he pushing for one in Fort Point Channel where they are creating whole city blocks out of parking lots, where there is interstate access, where there is a convention center with many visitors? It feels like he just wants to stick the casino on the other side of the harbor with the oil tanks and airport and let Eastie bear the burden while the city gets the cash.

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All people coming to Suffolk Downs will be driving through Eastie, while no one would pass through Eastie to get to the Everett casino (except from the airport:)

And how is that no one?

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People coming from the airport are already passing through East Boston, so I don't think they count (as suggested by my hidden smiley face :). I suppose I should have said "almost" no one. Anyway, the traffic implications will be drastically different.

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STEVE HOLT!

sorry, I'm not sorry.

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That is all.

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