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City looks for more space for programs evacuated from Long Island - and to preserve the island for future use

Crews are working seven days a week to prepare two dormant public-health buildings in Mattapan for long-term use by halfway programs, while the city looks to rent or buy additional space - including possibly in the closed Radius hospital in Roxbury - for the several years before the bridge to Long Island can be repaired.

Although the city was able to find cots for all the homeless people on the island when police ordered it evacuated on Oct. 8, the city now has no spare beds to deal with extra homeless people seeking shelter on cold winter nights, John Townsend, the Boston Public Health Commission's director of administration and finance, said at a commission board meeting today.

And the city has so far been unable to replace some 60 beds in detox programs, meaning people are now being turned away.

Townsend said Camp HarborView, a city-run kids' camp, will use open this summer, using ferries.

Townsend said that even as that work is going on, crews continue to ferry to the island to retrieve items from the buildings evacuated in just four hours on Oct. 8 - and to prepare the buildings to withstand the onslaught of both winter and criminals with their eyes on all the piping and fixtures in the buildings.

Theft "is a very serious concern for us," he said. The city has already had problems with people running their boats onto an island beach "and tearing copper piping out." In addition to locking down the buildings - and setting thermostats to 45 - he said the commission will have security staff patrolling the grounds.

He added that the commission plans to send barges carrying shipping containers to the island soon so that workers at city and non-profit programs that had used the island can load up all the desks, beds and other equipment they'd left behind and then get them delivered to their current spaces.

He said the commission is hoping to open a 74-bed facility in Mattapan on Nov. 3 to house two programs for people trying to re-enter society after substance abuse, one for men nearing the end of prison sentences, the other for people who need a short-term residential program. Both had been housed on Long Island. A second, 25-bed building in an old adult-daycare facility now used for furniture storage should be open in early December, he said.

Townsend said that as hard as the sudden evacuation was, the commission knew the bridge would be closed eventually and had already prepared - by stocking the South End Fitness Center with supplies to quickly turn parts of it into an emergency shelter and by signing contracts with private shelter providers and even boat operators to provide once daily ferry service to Long Island.

Although the city is continuing plans to build a large concrete dock at Long Island, Townsend said he's not sure the city would be willing to use ferries rather than rebuilding the bridge, because ferries are very expensive.

The commission board went into a closed session to discuss possible deals with landlords for additional space for the programs displaced by the bridge closing.

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Is there another city, in the entire world, that houses its homeless on an island??

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Makes me wonder if there's going to be a lawsuit filed on behalf of the Boston homeless population to prevent the City from using Long Island as a shelter. It always seemed like an odd arrangement better suited for the 19th century than modern times.

It's been my understanding (and I have no idea if I'm correct or not,) that the shelter facility out there is a neglected place of last resort, like, if you can't get your act together and get yourself off the streets following a stint on Long Island then you're pretty much doomed. Like I said, I am probably completely wrong, but that's what someone told me.

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The Island's facility was an emergency shelter, which means it continues to accept new people until about 10pm while other shelters might fill up. Aside from a limited number of lockers that people could rent, there really wasn't much for long-term homelessness.

the Island also had a bad reputation because it was a "wet shelter" which means it did not turn away intoxicated people. As a result many addicts prefer it.

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"...will use open this summer, using ferries."

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Why isn't anyone reporting on the other programs not through BPHC that were out there? Volunteers of America had three programs on Long Island. What is happening with those?
As for the "doomed" comment, I don't think that is accurate. I think it was just a matter of Long Island had these empty buildings and having people live in these programs would cause less use of the bridge rather than say, daily commuters going to and fro all day long. It's not a quarantine of the homeless, but just a fact of the matter that Long Island had the space for the need.

Shame on the City and every agency that had programs out there for not acting faster or speaking up for their clients in need.

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It just doesn't make sense you can't find the dough to maintain a bridge but somehow you can spend all the money this plan is going to require. We'll be fixing the gd bridge for some developer anyway eventually, so why not just do it right now while city still has a use for it ?

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How about we fix the bridge, let a developer create millions in dollars in taxable real estate out there and then we get the other half of the island as a park? Win/win.

I can't speak for the homeless, but I would think they'd be fine with a shorter bus ride to shelter from downtown anyways.

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Even though it seems a bit mean spirited, I'm kind of behind this plan. For the cost of repairing that bridge we could easily build a facility twice as big in the middle of downtown Boston. At least there the residents would have easy access to things like, you know, jobs and services.

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I think the 'only' obligation we have is to provide support and services to the homeless. I don't think it makes sense to bus them through a neighboring town to be warehoused in an out of sight location. Where they are receiving these services should only be considered from the perspective of effectiveness, cost and how it works with the neighborhood. So yeah, I'd rather have homeless shelters distributed throughout the city instead of clumped off of Quincy.

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Vaughn, forgive the snark, but "two dormant public-health buildings in Mattapan" and "the closed Radius hospital in Roxbury" do effectively mean this will end up "warehoused in an out of sight location" for most residents of Boston since most Boston residents don't spend any time in either of these neighborhoods. I hear regularly from neighbors that feel this sort of thing tends to get dumped here in the 'hood rather than spread around the city more. Maybe that relative invisibility has something to do with it.

On the bright side, the homeless will probably prefer their new location to that dank remote building on the edge of the cold Atlantic. And the future developer will prefer their lovely seaside location for wholly different reasons. It's a win/win, by the rules of our economy :-)

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The closed Radius hospital in Roxbury is right around the corner from me...but I agree with you that it will be out of sight for most residents of Downtown/South End/Back Bay residents. I highly doubt any of those residents spend any time in my neighborhood. That's why they are entirely oblivious to the real issues faced by residents in Roxbury, Mattapan, and Dorchester yet the residents of Beacon Hill are up in arms about concrete handicapped ramps as if the use of that horrific material is destroying the city.

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and in which neighborhood do you think this huge homeless shelter will be welcome?

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This makes me so angry. As if they were totally unaware that the bridge was structurally deficient all this time. I have to wonder if the city was just hoping these people would just somehow go elsewhere.

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IS NOT a good idea. And Mattapan already does it's share with the Shattuck. But where else is there?

And like others have said on Uhub, I too have noticed more homeless at all hours if the day around town. Something needs to be done ASAP, winter will be here sooner than later.

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JP gets credit for the Shattuck. There was the old State hospital up Morton street, and another facility on River street. One of these must be available for this task . That's just the way it goes,not to pick on Mattapan. Then remove the bridge , make it back to an island.

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What state hospital building are they talking about? There is the nature center, the community gardens, UMASS Medical buildings and houses. Where exactly is this shelter going to be placed?

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I was referring to the two former facilities, the present status I am not certain of:
Boston State Hospital on Morton Street , and the Mattapan Chronic Disease Hospital on River street. Throw in the Lemuel Shattuck, which is JP. There must be some sort of unused capacity at these sites. Or seize the Failkner Hospital and convert it , if you want to be politically appropriate to sharing the unpleasant externalities of the mission throughout the city.

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Shattuck is not in Mattapan...It is in JP... the edge of JP if you will

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Do you really think after they build a new bridge which is going to take forever if it gets done at all that it will be returned to being used a shelter /rehab if so you fools I will put my money on them selling it and turning into a rick peoples haven outside the city on there own little island !

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Weir would they be?

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He gets everything nice.

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