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I follow him on Twitter and
I follow him on Twitter and FB. I think he's really losing it. It's sad.
I feel...
Turrible for this guy.
Seems like the downspiral of post celebrity-ism has to be one of the most INvalidating experiences a human can have.
Without self concept Life is....
Don't Feel Bad For Curt Schilling, He Deserves It
He's a sad, insignificant little man who defrauded the state of Rhode Island and millions of people, ruining the lives of thousands of young individuals - people just getting their start in life, whose only crimes were believing in the man and following him into ruin.
He deserves every single misfortune that befalls him. Every single injustice that visits him will not even begin to repay the debt he owes society. What's left of his wealth should be seized by the government and he should spiral into the gutter of irrelevancy bankrupt and broken.
Do not feel "turrible" for Curt Schilling, for this is karma at its finest.
A little much...
He invested a lot of his own money to start a business and it failed. Businesses fail sometimes - it's a strange concept to you I guess but it can and does happen. I disagree with him "defrauding" RI...they offered him money to move his company there from Maynard so he went.....I know some former employees who claim that they had secured a round of financing but Rhode Island squashed that when they trashed his company publicly - kind of an odd approach for a company you just loaned money to.
He's hardly insignificant - he's accomplished more over his lifetime than you ever have. Let it go......
"he's accomplished more over his lifetime than you ever have"?
By throwing a baseball?
...
Being an MLB pitcher for that length of time requires quite a bit more than "throwing a baseball" but I'll let you have the dumbed-down version if you like.....He made millions for the sport as well. He also did quite a bit of charity work/fundraising for ALS. His business venture wasn't well thought out but I'm sure his intentions weren't to go bankrupt.
Let me know if this qualifies dvdoff or what kind of details you were looking for.
You'll forgive my ignorance
but I would appreciate some clarity on what you mean by a "bit more than throwing a baseball". The man stood on a mound of dirt for years and threw a baseball, for which he was paid millions that he blew through and then fleeced the taxpayers in the process. I'm afraid, due to personal experience, that I do not hold sports figures in any high regard, because they are mostly a pack of immature children with too much money and too many people kissing their asses because they have some ability with an inanimate object.
You'll also forgive me, but I've driven the man. He's a jerk. Plain and simple. Now the world knows he's an ignorant one.
I will forgive your ignorance....
If it's so easy, why doesn't everyone become a millionaire by standing on a pile of dirt and throwing a baseball.....There's far more to it than just finding a pile of dirt, throwing a ball, and becoming a millionaire...and you know this.
I disagree that he fleeced taxpayers - the morons of RI offered him a lot of money to move his business there and he took their offer. Things didn't work out as planned obviously....his intent wasn't to take the loan and think it was free money. He did lose most of his baseball money when his business failed....again, bad planning/business model.
I agree with your comments about athletes/sports figures in general. I don't know him personally, I know some who were employed at 38 Studios that I trust who claim that the media is distorting the truth big-time......not the 1st time the media has done that to people......
Maybe he - and you - should pay more attention
Start with the big ten: thou shall not steal is in there
I find it pretty rich that someone has religion when it comes to denying the reality of how life on the planet works, but somehow leaves it at the door when it comes to fraud and lying.
Uh oh
Now he's a thief and a liar? Good lord....you should "pay attention" a bit more because you are quite misinformed on the story.
Not quite.
Thrown for a Curve in Rhode Island
Seems like the paper of record disagrees with you, and supports Swirly's contentions. The state sued him for fraud, since he built his company around a sham premise, and internal email records show all the executives knew the company was never going to make good on its promises.
Really?
I had to run through it pretty quickly - but sounds to me like RI had ample warning up front NOT to make the investment and ignored good advice. Your first hint that something's not a good investment - the private sector will have little/nothing to do with it.
Schilling's main sin seems to have been that he was a minnow in shark infested waters trying to swim with the whales. No surprise where that ended up.
Guilty of stupidity - maybe - but even the article says the main objective is to get a settlement out of the banks involved.
RI didn't do their diligence and didn't take good advice. This could/should have all been avoided. And governments shouldn't invest in speculative private companies. They are even more clueless than people like Schilling.
Bingo
.
Really?
From the actual article:
http://sadtrombone.com
Considering that I'm Not Yet 30
It isn't hard to point to a great many people decades older than I who have accomplished more over their lives than I have. After all, they've had decades more than I have to accomplish things. That doesn't invalidate what he did.
I don't think you know the entire story, actually, because that offer did not fall upon Curt Schilling from out of the blue. He asked for it and prompted the backroom dealings that led to it being possible. He's not the only party responsible for the 38 Special, but that doesn't invalidate what he did either.
I have heard differently....
The media tends to distort things to go along with their agenda.....lots of people think Schilling is annoying and a blow hard...that's fine by me....so I'm not going to believe every smear job that the media puts out there....I know people who worked at the company and their story differs quite a bit with what's been out there publicly.
He should have probably thought this out better, but he's not nearly as much to blame as the public thinks.....agree to disagree I guess.
Side thoughts......
I do believe in evolution. I am interested in what "humans" will look like in 100 million years.
Well
There's the Terminator theory that our wifi-connected coffee makers will become sentient and just kill us all before we get to 100 million years.
There's the Doctor Who theory that we still look the same and have expanded to the far corners of the universe.
I tend to believe in the Idiocracy theory that we basically devolve back into apes. At least in America
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
That's a really depressing
That's a really depressing view to have of your fellow man.
Also that's one of the few movies I could not sit through. The dialogue is too annoying and grating, not to mention the writing is so unsubtle and wanky.
Also that's one of the few
What do you want from a documentary?
Faith in evolution
Faith is required to believe in evolution.
Kids should not be taught something that cannot meet requirements for a theory.
Darwin had megadoubts about it.
Evolution was accepted because it excused mans sexual mores not because of evidence says Darwin's bulldog Huxley
Evolution is a lie.
Mr schilling is dead on.
You should sue your science teachers for malpractice
Based on the evidence in your comment, you'd win in a heartbeat.
Dear mr g,
Dear mr g,
Every statement stands on it's own and is commonly known in society. Therefore when something is commonly known as a fact it can be summarized as such.
I'm disappointed mr g. you failed to go beyond your educators
And I'm sorry you regressed behind yours
How do you know I didn't do my own independent reading on this? Because I don't believe in your worldview?
Is it hard to see the keyboard
through the eye holes in your tin foil hat?
Dear wingnut
Humans just landed a probe on a comet. A probe that flew on a spaceship for a decade, circled the Earth and Mars to gain velocity, hit a moving object hurtling at about 84,000 miles per hour, over 300 million miles from earth.
The same scientific process that brought that amazing feat is behind every scientific "theory" that you moronic Bible-thumpers like to harp on as being unproven. Yet you point to a single bronze-age text and its early Medieval-era sequel as all the proof you need of your beliefs.
You are welcome to your forced ignorance and desire to believe in invisible sky-friends and zombie Rabbis and magic rib-women, but the rest of us would prefer if you kept that stuff to yourself so that humanity could continue to evolve past you.
90% of the branches of modern
90% of the branches of modern science were founded by believes in Christian God revealed in Holy Scriptures, so without those people you ignorantly slander so easily - but I don't blame you since you have been conditioned well - you never would be reading at all but thanks to Gutenberg press developed with desire to allow people to read the bible for themselves nor typing a computer thanks to Babbage in fact you may not have made it past infancy without Jesus- there would be no hospitals.
You can prove the bible from objective vantage point but since you have been misled to what the gospel is you are on auto reject pilot.
Talk to the hand, um, the pope
You do realize that even the pope recognizes the theory of Evolution, no? Oh, right, no, of course not.
Oh, man
Where to start?
And I'm also sure many of them believed, for instance, that "ill humours" in the blood caused illness, and thus people needed to be bled when they were sick. That doesn't make it right or correct. Religion dominated life for centuries, but that doesn't mean that it should continue to do so.
Like the overall tenor of your comment, this one is asking me to assume that the only reason any modern scientific or healthcare breakthrough happened is because of a rebellious Jewish rabbi from the first century CE. As if the only good things that have happened to the world have happened because of Christians and Christianity. That is a blanket statement that is fundamentally untrue, but would take too long to go into detail on every way it is wrong.
However, in order to humor you and make one obvious point, you overlook that centuries-long period often referred to as "The Dark Ages" where Christianity and its very earth-bound leaders kept European society as a backwater of innovation and discovery. It was only after the conquest of Spain by the Moors (those evil, nasty Muslims) that European Christians got reintroduced to basic scientific laws. Never mind the fact that the Church actively fought to keep this sort of "natural philosophy" research and teaching to a minimum. How else do you explain that it took until the middle of the 20th century for the Catholic Church to finally admit that maybe Galileo was right about the nature of the solar system?
Wow. Yeah, if you believe cherry-picked and selectively-edited "proof" then yeah, you can "prove the bible". But science is about more than just focusing on one thing and trying to prove it is true like a manic conspiracy theorist. It's a process of understanding the universe as it actually exists, not the way one group of people who follow a particular canon of religious texts WANTS it to be.
Science is flawed, messy, slow moving at times, but it is a process of discovery and collaboration and steps to proving and disproving the world around us. Religion, and especially fundamentalist sects of all religions, are inherently infallible within their confines, and thus reject any movement to better understanding or heterogeneity. Anyone who challenges a particular creed or pillar of faith is a heretic and cast out (generally speaking). The scientific method's main purpose, on the other hand, is to constantly test and challenge the status quo.
And you're wrong about my understanding of the bible and the gospels. In fact, as science has shown through the regular Pew Research studies on faith that are done every few years, people who do not affiliate with any religion/identify as atheists or agnostics or humanists tend to have a much better base of knowledge on the bible than the religious do (citation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/pew-forum-religious-knowledge-s...). Maybe it's because we actually want to know more and understand deeper, rather than just accept what our pastor tells us as the Gospel Truth?
I'm not even going to get into how you should be suing your English teacher as well...
What came first
the chicken or the egg...fk it gimme an omlet.
Useful Lies We Tell Ourselves
Neither religion or science are reality itself. They're just ways to understand the universe with our limited linguistic and cognitive capacity. So in a sense they're both lies. If you believe that a particular religious text and a stilted interpretation of it explains everything you're going to miss some truly amazing facts about life. Many scientists are quite religious since they are aware of how much is unknowable and often have doubts about their own theories.
Science may not explain God or faith but it can sure make you humble about your place in Creation. Evolution as a theory explains the actual evidence better than any other explanation that's been proffered. Just because it's not perfect and it operates over time scales of millions of years which is hard to fit into our experience doesn't make it false, just impossible to believe if you think the world was created just for Man 6000 years ago based on a ancient text that's been translated frequently beyond it's original cultural context. You're welcome to live your life like that. You can turn in your cell phones and computers at the door.
Let me point out where you were incorrect
I'm for Evolution
It's not as packed with seminal jams as "II," but "4 Seasons of Loneliness" has a sweet beat.
Who cares?
It's simply not necessary to believe in evolution in order to have a good and productive life. The same is not quite true about religion.
Holly rollers, Batman!
Just because you don't know any atheists or agnostics does not mean one cannot have a fulfilling and ethical life without religion.
Huh?
So one cannot lead a fulfilling and ethical life without religion? Who says?
Anon
Anon is saying that.
Doubling down on the stupid.
Thanks for 2004, Curt!
Now please STFU and go away.
I Would Pay Any Price to Erase him from History
2004? Hell, I'll give back all three World Series trophies right now if it means Curt Schilling never came to Boston, never went to Rhode Island, and never ruined the lives of thousands of people in his quest to defraud millions.
He deserves no thanks for anything. He's not even the difference between winning it all or going home in 2004.
Woah, lets not say things we
Woah, lets not say things we can't take back.
I'm Not Saying Anything I Would Want to Take Back
2004 is not worth what Curt Schilling did to me, my friends, my home state, and everyone else.
I would accept having my still-beating heart ripped out of my chest by the Cardinals doing the same thing to us as we did to the Yankees in 2004 if it meant that Curt Schilling never came to Boston.
ruined the lives of thousands of people?
Explain please. He employed about 160 people and the company went bankrupt. It happens. He wasn't trying to defraud millions, he was trying to build a video game company and the business failed. He's not the anti-christ.
Read Up on what Curt did to Those Employees
http://www.polygon.com/gaming/2012/5/25/3043282/38-studios-downfall-lead...
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/collapse-of-38-studios-sticks-some-devs...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404941,00.asp
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2012/06/07/schilling-38-studios-b...
It is the same story, linked from multiple sources. Essentially, Curt promised to help those employees relocate and supposedly sold their homes for them, when actually it simply held onto the properties. Upon bankruptcy, the residents became on the hook for both their new home and their old home - and more importantly, both mortgages.
In other words, not only did they lose their income, their expenses saw a significant uptake. Such a thing is devastating, potentially ruining for a young individual starting out in their career lives.
This is but one of many crimes committed by Curt through his 38 Studios nightmare, but it is the one that hits closest to home, as it were.
Okay, those articles about 38 Studios...
they don't say what you think they say. But even if they did, it regards seven properties, so not sure how you could ever conclude that he ruined thousands of lives.
Stop with the defrauding
I don't think you know the story of what happened....but you can keep spewing nonsense if you like....
Kurt? Is that you?
Go home, Mr. Schilling. You're drunk.
It's Curt not Kurt
And no this isn't Curt....thanks for double-checking
And...
Schilling is a lousy tipper.
Curt on Twitter
This was ponderous. I don't care if he's a denier or whatever but when these celebrities start fighting with strangers on the internet not realizing or worse realizing that everyone in the world is also following along is just plain stupid.
I know they have giant egos but you assume that smarts might also come along with huge success.
Guess not.
http://cappyinboston.blogspot.com/
I smell a new blog entry
I'm not sure if Curt believes in infinity or not but he should be on the blog that will be infinity pages long.
True
My problem is that I still remember reversing the curse and crying in the streets too clearly. He'll always be a hero for that series to me. They all will.
Look on the bright side
When the chips were down and his ankle needed fixing to get him out on the mound for Game Six, he went to a real scientific doctor instead of a tent-revival huckster.
Curt will only believe in
Curt will only believe in evolution if he gets a significant taxpayer-backed loan that he can squander on it first.
Wow, Schilling doesn't believe in Evolution?
That's really important to me. I can't wait to hear what Bob Stanley thinks of the Theory of Relativity.
I also heard
Big Papi sacrifices a goat before every game.
MOAR GOATS!!
2015 will be here soon enough! Get this man more goats, NOW!
His experiment
never reached Gedmans mitt.
Curt
have another twinkie.