New gas pipeline proposed for West Roxbury

Proposed gas-line route

Spectra Energy holds an information session today on its plans for a new gas pipeline that would run through Westwood, Dedham and West Roxbury and include a "metering and regulating" facility across Centre and Grove streets from the quarry.

And the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission holds a formal hearing on the proposed 5-mile pipeline on Monday.

The session today begins at 5:30 p.m. at the Elks Club, 1 Morrell St. The FERC hearing starts at 6:30 p.m. on Monday at the Dedham Holiday Inn, 55 Ariadne Rd.

Algonquin says it wants to install the new pipeline at National Grid's request, both to add a new supply of gas to the region to improve gas pressure in the area.

Primary roads utilized for routing include Providence Highway, Washington Street, Grove Street, and Centre Street. The pipeline would also cross Interstate 95/State Route 128.

In its FERC draft environmental filing, Algonquin says the pipeline would be almost entirely under parking lots and roads. It says the new facility near the quarry would prove inoffensive and that it would install "a blowdown silencer" to minimize noise from periodic "blowdown events" of one to five minutes.

In addition to federal approval, the company would need permits from Dedham and Boston to dig up local roads to install the pipe.



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Can't wait to hear that locals on this one...

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People will moan about safety and inconvenience and the effect on asthma rates and degradation of quality of life. The truth: Once they patch up the roads after burying the new line, this won't negatively affect anyone, so go ahead and do it.


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Your street available then. This crap will never happen, all three neighborhood will flip their lids.

The price of natural gas is

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The price of natural gas is going up. Supply is low and demand is high. But, I guess that would be bitching, right?

There has been a natural gas glut for several years.

Natural Gas

This month's STEO raises the outlook for total marketed natural gas production in 2014 by 0.8 billion cubic feet per day (Bcf/d) to 73.9 Bcf/d. The EIA 914 production survey has indicated strong growth in the Lower 48 states through May, while additional preliminary data sources indicate continued gains in production in June and July. Increases come largely from the Marcellus states and Texas. Strength in production over the summer, in addition to mild weather, contributed to multiple weekly storage injections of 100 Bcf or greater, and storage is on track for a record overall injection. This month's STEO slightly raises the projected end-of-October working gas inventory to 3,460 Bcf. Natural gas spot prices fell from $4.47/MMBtu at the beginning of July to $3.78/MMBtu at the end of the month, reflecting the current strength in supply growth and stock builds.


Building a pipeline means they are trying to sell more of it. If it were scarce, existing pipeline capacity would work. But yeah, it'll be a mess in the area where the work happens.

New England uniqueness

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There may be enough of a natural-gas glut that all those fracking wells in North Dakota are just burning the stuff off, but New England relies more on natural gas than any other part of the country - and a major proportion of our supply comes from Algeria via big-ass tankers coming into Boston Harbor.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Burn off happens in the absence of any other option as it is always better to sell something than let it go up in smoke.

And the Marcellus Shales cited are a lot closer than Bakken.

The data is about deliverable capacity rather than burn off.

Of course we want it.

And of course we want to reduce our exposure to potentially unstable parts of the world and LNG tankers in the harbor.

I have to babysit 5 high efficiency gas furnaces as part of the free rent barter deal I have going here. They rock.

Some dim anonamid above me asserted gas is scarce and expensive and I felt like playing a bit of gotcha.

Fracking outcomes are worrisome and I'm puzzled why it fell off the radar screen as an issue. Was it debunked or did attention drift elsewhere?

Ultimately, the real aim should be efficiency improvements and use reduction but that is more gradual.

Fracking may also have peaked

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According to this finance industry person who certainly has paid more attention to the issue than I have.

Usual disclaimer: yes, this is a 1% market manipulator Satan type, but the underlying premise being presented seems to have merit. Essentially, the easy to frack gas will be fracked soon:

The simplest of his reasons, though, is that producers have already drilled in many of the best areas, or sweet spots. Hall predicts that growth in shale output will begin to moderate this year and U.S. production will peak as soon as 2016.

“Once those areas have been drilled out, operators will have to move to more-marginal locations and well productivity will fall,” Hall wrote in March. “Far from continuing to grow, production will start to decline.”

And yes, better efficiency and insulation is also key.

That is another interesting factor.

These newer plays don't have the longevity of something like the huge Saudi fields in Ghawar for oil but are often more useful for gas.

There is a lot of murk and conflicting information that will clarify over time. Retrofitting old housing stock is a great thing to do as part of any property business game plan and the incorporation of LEED standards in new work is also a great way to add value.

Fact check, Adamg?

New England relies more on natural gas than any other part of the country

Um, Adam, what are you using for a source? When it comes to the voting public, what is most directly important to them is how they heat their home in winter, and less directly, what is used to produce our electricity.

Adam, is your data newer than this?

My personal opinion is that the people opposing new gas pipelines are idiots. People won't just leave gas in the ground! Transporting oil on trains is dangerous and LNG is expensive and transporting it also risky. None of the pipeline opponents have advocated not heating their homes in winter, so I don't know what their plan is. As it is we pay about the fourth highest price for electricity in the lower 48 and pipeline capacity shortages is part of the reason. Notice from the above link how much of the country heats with electricity and its simply cost prohibitive for many in New England.

The article says the leaks

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The article says the leaks are from old cast iron pipes. So a new pipeline shouldn't have that issue.

Not much incentive

The gas industry has little incentive to reduce leaks, even in new pipelines.

The EPA has a voluntary program to address methane leaks — Natural Gas STAR — but its efforts through this program have resulted in limited reductions of methane emissions from distribution pipelines. This is due largely to financial and policy barriers, including disincentives for distribution companies to repair nonhazardous leaks.

Most of the leaks in MA are from old pipelines because most of the pipelines here are old. Fortunately, there is a recent MA law that presses gas companies to fix leaks that they have ignored for decades. THAT is the reason new pipelines will be tighter, not just that the are newer.

I've covered this for The

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I've covered this for The West Roxbury Transcript and the new pipeline is not cast iron. Those are the ones they want to phase out. Spectra says that the new pipe will be made of a kind of plastic. The seals will be heated so that they melt together. I think they said it was good for around 50 or more years.


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Well! I should hope it'll aesthetically match the history and ambiance of the Grove St area. We don't want just any old thing built by the historic quarry!

Your asinine comment adds

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Your asinine comment adds nothing to the discussion nor is it funny or clever. Welcome, Herald reader.

Moi ? Tough digging up there

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Moi ? Tough digging up there , just saying. On a more interesting ( to some anyway ) note, the quarries used to supply the stone for the asphalt made by the Baker Hot Top plant in Jamaica Plain, which was beside the Boston Gas Company down there.


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I hadn't heard about that new exit. That will help me once it's built.


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You can still take Great Plain Ave to Needham/Newton/128N.