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Boston Cop Waves Gun in Videographer's Face

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It's freaking 2015. This has been fought and decided upon over and over and over again. It is not illegal to video tape police doing their job in a public space. I can't honestly believe that the officers don't know this -- are they just coasting on residual intimidation factor or something?

It was creepy how the officer asked the dude if he wanted to "jump inside the cruiser and ride with us" and how he repeatedly stated that he did not consent to being filmed. It's almost if ... he was ... intentionally trying to muddle the situation or outright lie about some nonexistent consent-in-public law. Again a clear tactic that draws upon the (slowly shrinking) automatic respect and deference that is usually applied to officers by citizens.

And all this happened before the toy gun was found.

I'm less than totally convinced that the toy gun was used to threaten or intimidate. I think the officers were just happy that they had found something and wanted to do their "this is why we are out here" thing for the camera.

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The Supremes have come out and said that ignorance of the law is a valid excuse for police to do whatever the hell they want. If you or I tried that defense strategy, we'd be in jail in four seconds, but it's totally OK for sworn officers of the law to play fast and loose with it.

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"Kevin Moore, the man who filmed police arresting Freddie Gray and dragging him on the ground was arrested on Thursday night, along with two other cop watchers from Ferguson." more

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Where is the part where the office "points the gun at the camera"? Am I looking at the wrong video?

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What do you think an officer would do if a regular "citizen" waved a toy gun in the officer's face, exactly as shown in the video?

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They would arrest him.

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answers the above question!

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"Citations please".

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waved a toy gun

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Staines is expected to meet with Lawrence, Boston NAACP President Michael Curry, and Superintendent-in-Chief William Gross on Friday, and a reminder has gone out to all officers that citizens can legally videotape them, Evans said.

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is this a black white thing? seems to me its a cranky assed cop giving an unseen individual a hard time about videotaping him, which the guy has the legal right to do. where does the NAACP get involved here?

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Attempt to stay relevant in Boston. Race OBVIOUSLY had nothing to do with it but that hasn't stop them from playing the race card in the past.

They're professionals in shaking people down. Example

Shaking down Uber this week..

http://www.necn.com/news/business/Uber-Wants-5000-More-Boston-Drivers-30...

"The Institute for a Competitive Inner City and the Boston chapter of the NAACP are partnering with Uber. Financial terms on what Uber's paying them aren’t being disclosed. Michael Curry, president of the Boston NAACP branch, said he sees the effort having the potential to help close a vast black-versus-white wealth gap"

They're racist, the NAACP of 2015 is not the NAACP of 1950's.

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OK, who had "two hours and thirteen minutes" in the pool? My guess was an hour, but I didn't factor in the time that Adam posted it; have to give anon time to read his Drudge Report before he fires up UHub.

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But that's not "waving a gun" - he's holding it up like "look at this, this is why we're here".

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It is unprofessional and potentially dangerous.

The apology is the first step. These guys need to be disciplined for losing their composure. They got distracted from their duties over something that is well established as legal behavior.

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well established legal behavior.

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Nothing protects a minor from being photographed/filmed in public.

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He implied that becuase there was a minor, he must get permission. That is false. He also implied that as an adult he consented.

It's particularly infuriating because we continue to pay-out settlements in wrongful arrests cases where the Boston police insist on arresting people who have every right to record them.

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This is a good learning moment for youth playing with fake guns on the street. Parents should teach kids about the foolishness of doing this. Getting shot by a policeman who mistakes a fake gun for a real one is tragic.

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and confronted the agitator recording the episode. The officer failed to appreciate the ignorance of the agitator. The agitator's failure to understand the consequences this young man's actions of carrying a realistic firearm in a section of the city with a history of firearm homicides. The officer needs to understand that the agitator could care less if that kid was shot dead by another kid just as long as he wasn't shot by police.

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The "agitator" ignored the laws he is sworn to uphold and tried to imply the existence of a fake law while intimidating a law abiding bystander. The citizen did not know about (or need to know about) the fake firearm. He was legally recording in public. Everything else in your word salad is just a smear job to mask the true description of events and deflect attention from the officer.

I've noticed the same pattern of apologists on other comment forums referring to the citizen filmer as an "aggressor". It's almost like there is a script for apologists who want to provide ground cover for official misbehavior.

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Speaking of which, maybe you should reread you overly biased 1st comment!

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An agitator is a person who tries to get people angry or upset.

I don't think there's any evidence the videographer was agitating.

The officer was demonstrating discontent with the videographer with a approach and a passive aggressive gun-waving gesture. I think that qualifies as agitator.

Bulgingbuick making counter factual assertions may be an effort to agitate, it's hard to know his motive. He probably has a personality disorder.

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should help you with that fry order you're about to take.

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If you were born after 1982, I got my BA, in Psycholoy (no kidding!) before you were born.

Yo' Mama is so stupid, she's as useless as a screen door on a submarine. You tell me, why are you making counter factual assertions?

"The officer..confronted the agitator recording the episode."

How is the man standing on a street corner across the street from a traffic stop agitating (trying to get people angry or upset)?

"The officer failed to appreciate the ignorance of the agitator."

What is the evidence the man filming is ignorant?

"The agitator's failure to understand the consequences this young man's actions of carrying a realistic firearm in a section of the city with a history of firearm homicides."

What are the consequences of carrying a toy gun, or 'realistic firearm' as you call it?

"the agitator could care less if that kid was shot dead"

Since you have no first-hand knowledge about the videographer and there is nothing in the video to demonstrate he has disregard for the kid, why would you claim the videographer has a disregard for the well-being of the kid? It seems to me you could more easily infer the videographer, by recording this police stop, cares about the well being of the kid, and whether the officer is conducting himself as a professional rather than abuse his authority to intimidate, bully or violate the rights of the kid,

So tell me, why are you making counter factual assertions?

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The agitator has a bias against police. It's his right to record. That is inalienable. What is unarguable is that in American inner cities hundreds of young Black men are killed by other young Black men. There is a lack of effort by people like the agitator to address this genocide in any way other than blaming police. Police and citizens of the affected neighborhoods live and work in combat zones. This officer demonstrated stress disorder. Why? Because he's been dealing with violence and the post event finger pointing by do nothing critics.

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There's probably one in your washing machine. Better go look!

Meanwhile, the cop's unprofessional behavior - leaving the work he was supposed to be doing and the partner he should be covering to harass a lawfully acting citizen - could easily get his ass killed if predictable ignorance and bullying impulses led to an ambush.

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There's nothing in this footage that suggests the "agitator" (let's call him photographer since he wasn't agitating anything) had a bias against police.

The fact that people kill people (young, black, men...all completely irrelevant to the discussion) is immaterial to this video.

Genocide is completely inappropriate since a genocide would mean that your subject would want to kill *all* of a particular race/creed. Even if the predominant killer of young black men is other young black men, that does not in any way suggest that young black men want to kill ALL young black men (and is farcical at best). Furthermore, you have zero knowledge of what the photographer does or doesn't do when it comes to addressing violence in his community. In fact, this video may have been an attempt to expose other young black men to the fact that even a toy gun will get them in trouble and they should pick up a bible instead. You don't know because it's completely irrelevant to the video as to what his motivation for shooting it was.

This officer did not demonstrate any stress disorder. He demonstrated a lack of self control and professionalism. Why? Because he doesn't like anyone able to question his actions. It's something a lot of cops end up stumbling upon and then running with. The photographer was filming him and the result of that could be someone using the footage to question this cop's actions and in his mind that is not allowed. He was on a power trip and instead of protecting and serving he was patrolling and controlling.

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What the police officer needs to understand is that the man has a right to film the police and shouldn't be confronted about it. The man filming isn't an "agitator", he's just doing what's right and he shouldn't be harassed for it. But of course, the cop "lost his composure" and acted aggresively towards the man who was just exercising his rights. End of story...

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is more important than another dead kid.

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Sorry that your civics classes were so lacking in content that you do not get that.

You might make up for your lacking history classes by looking up what our founders had to say about valuing security over liberty.

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False choice between filming the police in public and another dead kid. But if it was true choice and we chose filming the police, who would've shot and killed the kid?

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Almost nobody here would disagree with you about guns and the possible horrific outcome that could happen if some kid pointed a realistic BB gun at an officer or someone else. On that we can all agree. Guns in the wrong hands are bad, fake realistic guns are also bad and cops taking them off the street is fantastic.

We can all agree on that, OK?

The reason we are laughing at you is the utterly and totally transparent "smear the lawful citizen" attempt followed by the plaintive "think of the children, OMG!" comments you are making in an attempt to deflect attention away from official misconduct.

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He said, "I'm not giving you my permission to film me." His voice and tone seemed to be calm and controlled, I think the apology should be something like: "I'm sorry the local media have led the some of the public to bash the police by misleading viewers with provocative headlines, teasers and sound bites.

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His tone, aggressive posturing, demands that he not be put on film because "he doesn't give permission", his attempt to use the "juvenile" as consent issue, his parading of the evidence...coming all the way across the street to continue to deal with the guy with the camera instead of the arrest going down, asking him where he's from as if it's relevant, using reverse psychology at one point by telling him to keep filming as if "oh no, you wanted to see it, then you have to record it ALL!" because it gives the cop control over the guy, telling one of the officers not to let the photographer leave until he's "checked"...all of it is intimidation.

He wanted the guy to stop filming. He knows he has no right to make it stop but if he continues to interact with the guy and intimidate him then the guy will eventually worry about his own safety in the situation and leave AND never attempt to film cops again for fear of being intimidated again...or worse next time.

If the cop just did his job, ignored being filmed, and cleaned up the scene and left, then NOTHING would have come of any of this.

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This is unacceptable to see a police supervisor not know the law of being filmed on a public street or intimidating a witness. The other officer who has his hand p t his eye is harassing the man who is video tapping. These cops in Boston are cocky and too aggressive and this is why the police have a bad rap. This would never happen in some other police departments across America. Police Officers in some states will get fired for lying and these two officers would be suspended and the sergeant would be demoted but in I am sure they will get a slap on the wrist. In Boston it is nearly impossible for police officers to be fired for anything. The police in Boston could change their image but they don't and how can you have them investigate themselves?

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because it sounds like you're talking out of your arrss!

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Above.

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is all that is requires to prove a pattern?

Your comment is almost as delusional as the previous posters.If you can't recognize that the previous comment is full of unjust, unproven and highly opinionated crap well then i don't know what to tell you.

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I agree, the officer was being unprofessional. He is intimidating a bystander under color of law.

If the videographer was called as a witness. could the officer be charged with witness intimidation?

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One could argue the cop didn't actually wave the gun at the guy, but he definitely put it in the guy's face, so I've changed the headline. I also posted a copy of the original video that started the whole thing. The toy-gun in-your-face'ing starts around 1:40.

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He did not put the toy gun in the guy's face - he held it up for a close up to the camera.

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Did he put it in his face or in camera, make up your mind!

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That appears to be near the videoer's face.

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Adam, out of curiosity, what's your personal opinion on this, and the BPD in general?

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I don't know enough about the toy-gun-in-face situation to express an opinion one way or another. I am impressed that Evans issued an apology in the case, however. But then, he's always been that way - he treats the public with respect, not as the enemy.

As for the entire department? Hmm, tall order to have an opinion on an entire department, especially when I have almost no direct personal contact with BPD officers - I'm certainly never going to be stopped for a little chat just because I'm hanging out on a street corner somewhere (wrong race, wrong neighborhood for that).

Still, while I'm sure there are problems in BPD, as there is in any large organization, I am impressed at the respect the department seems to show citizens in general - we are not Baltimore, Chicago or New York - and in dealing with gun-related situations in particular. There have been a number of incidents over the past six months in which officers did not fire at suspects, even though they could argue they legitimately feared for their lives (like chasing guys who stop, turn and point a gun at them), and yet they didn't (most recently, the guy in Copley Square on Sunday).

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Thanks Adam. I'm a BPD officer and I was always curious about your personal stance since you do a pretty good job of keeping it neutral in your blog posts.

And thanks for keeping an open mind. I applaud you sir. That swirlygrrl person seems to think that the actions of one represent the entire lot. I find it terribly ironic, as this is the exact kind of thinking the protestors are trying to change: one does not reflect all. It's something I try to remember daily when I go to work. I'll try to do a good job out there. I love this city and all of it's people. And you keep up the good work Adam. You're singlehandedly better than the other media outlets.

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I totally agree but it's disappointing because of the lack of punishment for the officers that do mess up or act in such a way. Maybe if there was harsher punishment there would be less incidents by officers. I wish that officers would stand up and say something when another officers does something wrong. Then maybe someday we would have weeded out almost all the bad apples and change the image problem. I hate to see all cops get represented for the actions of a few but you have to admit there are quite a few in Boston causing news headlines. Such as beating up an Uber driver and following a female from Roxbury to Roslindale after asking her for sex. You also have to admit nationwide there are more cops getting in trouble only because of cameras. We need police to police themselves and turn in one another to make this world a better and safer place for all.

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Everyone is looking for that gotcha moment. The media loves this stuff.

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Now available! Boston City Clerks Records Retention Schedule, a public document... request by email at http://www.cityofboston.gov/contact/?id=36

Might any of you kind folks post the City Clerks Records Retention Schedule public document online?...

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Adorable!

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You keep on writing comments to the effect of "someone should request X and post it online". Why don't you do just that? I mean, if I or Scratchie or Cybah could do that, why can't you?

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After paying out a major fine for civil rights violation for arresting a civilian photographer, the Boston Police have reportedly have had specific training about the public's right to film police activity taking place in a public face.

The Sergeant, a person who is supposed to have experience and knowledge, above a patrolman, specifically ignores the departments policy as he steps away from the work at hand to cross the street to address a civilian exercising his constitutional rights.

In a wise ass tone, clearly designed for intimidation, he suggests that the videographer might like to go for rid in "the back of a cruiser". He instructs the videographer that he "does not give his permission" as if it was his to give. Clearly the whole interaction between the police sergeant and the videographer is inappropriate in tone, intent and demonstrates a lack of knowledge about interacting with the public and that public's constitutional right.

The Sergeant has demonstrated that he should not be in a supervisory position and should receive a formal reprimand.

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Getting the facts wrong about the law with respect to filming police in public combined with intimidating a bystander is cause enough for a formal reprimand. The apology is important for community relations. The reprimand is important to get this officers discipline back on track.

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Not only did he have every right to record the arrest, he also had every right to record the officer-- he did not need the officer's permission. The officer pulled that out of his ass.

I don't understand the people who say the officer was not behaving aggressively. Does anyone really not think his behavior is antagonistic, his tone of voice & manner of speaking angry, even if he didn't totally lose control?

If the cops didn't think the toy gun looked real, then they wouldn't have that guy sitting on the curb there. So the officer holds a very real looking toy gun up a few inches from the filmer's face. Watching this, my feeling was that if that had been a real gun, that was close enough to shoot the filmer's feet.

I'm glad the cop held on to his temper, but he clearly wanted to intimidate the guy filming.

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Not much happens like this down in Attleboro, heh?

No, just in North Attleboro.

Mayor Dumas. Kevin J. Dumas is ready to accept an apology.

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but this is effing ridiculous. He did not 'wave' (point) the (fake) gun at the camera guy. He was showing him why they were there, and obviously the guy filming them must have been very curious because he stood there with his camera (waiting for the cops to f up). Enough of this shit. Cops can be provoked , same as non-law enforcement, and cops themselves can also provoke...but it's a two way street.

And those whining about this silly incident, will you go and patrol high violent crime areas, and respond to violent crimes, take down and arrest violent, usually armed sociopaths who destroy whole neighborhoods, even whole cities? Will you? How about instead of marching and demonstrations downtown, you go into the 'bad' neighborhoods, off hours, when all the publicity and cameras are gone, and speak with the 'thugs'... reason with them, buy them a coffee, ask them nicely to please stop selling substances that destroy human lives and communities, stop shooting people, stop robbing and pistol whipping people....because you would not see such a police presence in these communities if there wasn't a huge problem with violent crime. It's been like this since the 70s, folks. We've had a very bad violent urban crime wave for 40 plus years, going on half a century. Every kind of social engineering 'program' has been tried, many are still in use. 'Progressive' and 'conservative' governments come and go (except for our big cities, which have been under firm Democratic 'progressive' control for as long as this urban violent crime wave started). Cops are THE LEAST to blame, thry just clean up the mess 99% of people don't want to or are afraid to deal with. Why aren't placing the blame where most of it belongs, on the mom-dad who presumably raised the people who cause all this violence in urban communities, the 'leaders' (not all) who enable it through silly social programs that actually exasperate the problem, the academic-intelligentsia elite who promoted and promote policies that also make the problems worse, often refusing to admit failure due to their egos, the policies (promoted by both main political parties) that has outsourced so many jobs, decimated our industry, and replaced them with lame 'service sector' jobs, the list is a long one. But no, blame the institution that imo is least responsible; guess it's easier than dealing with harsh truths and realities, and doesn't win votes.

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I watched this video several times and while I agree the officer was disrespectful and a bit of a jerk, what I see is:
1) when the man asked if there was anything wrong with what he was doing (video recording), the officer said no.
2) the officer never waved the toy gun in his face or did anything that could be interpreted as any kind of a threat with the gun
3) the officer never asserted that what the man was doing was illegal or threated to arrest him
4) the man was allowed to continue recording and was never physically touched or assaulted in any way

It seems the officer was under the mistaken impression that he could order the man not to record him while he was talking to him. But it seems clear to me that the officer knew he had no authority to order the man to stop recording the event. If he wanted the man to stop recording he would have said "Stop recording or I will put you in the back of the police car."

Instead, what we have is the attitude, annoyance, and an attempt to manipulate. It's unprofessional. But what is it not is a police officer threatening a man with a gun unless he stops his video recording.

I agree with PeterGriffith's assessment above--I'm not defending the officer's behavior; just criticizing the characterization of the incident to inflame it into a celebrity YouTube moment.

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the officer never asserted that what the man was doing was illegal or threated to arrest him

Funny, here on my planet, if a police officer asks, in a mocking, aggressive tone, "How'd you like to take a ride in a police cruiser," most people would interpret that as a threat.

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Cop should not have reacted so harshly. Someone above (Swirly?) had it right- he lost his composure.

That said, I didn't find the offer to 'ride along sometime and get some real video', nor the holding up of the gun to be threats. In my view, the camera-guy is owed an apology for the cop acting a little bit aggressively, and the cop should be officially counseled and reminded about citizens' right to film and about community policing in general. NAACP should probably just stand back unless there is some real racial component here that I'm missing.

Maybe they can get together over a beer and talk about their new-found celebrity and their observations of toy guns, real guns, and life in a (lower?) working class community.

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I would echo much of what people have said here about this particular Sergeant's tone and mannerisms. They just weren't appropriate. That said, some perspective is in order.

1. It's great that we can have a civilized conversation about this.

2. The BPD got a call that two kids were playing with a gun in a part of the City where gun violence is more frequently a problem than in other parts. By every account that I read, the BPD showed up quickly and in numbers that show that they took the call very seriously. I'm very confident that many people in many American cities would love to be able to say that about their local police department and can't.

3. Try watching the video without sound. I did and was struck by just how non-confrontational it appears. I think this is significant because body language can often be the difference in encounters like this (e.g., it can really make things spiral out of control quickly). I thought that it was notable, also, that it is really only the Sergeant who seems to care that they photographer is there. I do not think that it takes much imagination to envision a situation (in fact, I think it would be likely in lots of other places) where the photographer was quickly surrounded by 3 or 4 cops as an intimidation measure.

4. We are justifiably able to condemn the actions of the Sergeant here in large part because we (as the citizenry) and the BPD (as the police department charged with protecting that citizenry) are doing a better job than lots of other citizens and police departments in ensuring that the police understand and appreciate what their role in our society is. For at least this reason, we implicitly (perhaps explicitly in some cases) hold cops to a higher standard than we hold others to. By way of example, and I will speak only for myself, if someone starting filming me doing my job in a manner so as to clearly convey a "I'm watching every move you make waiting for you to screw up because others in your profession, elsewhere, have done so" message (and be honest, that's what's going on here - just look at the message from the website at the beginning of the video), I think that I would have reacted in a manner far worse than the Sergeant did (and I don't even have a job that is dangerous). As I said, I speak only for myself, but I think that people are for the most part lying to themselves and the rest of us if they say, "no, I'd be fine with that."

5. The condemnation from the "brass" was swift. You have to hand it to the Commissioner - he has clearly realized that acting quickly goes a long way toward diffusing a situation that can quickly get out of control. Every citizen, property owner and visitor in Boston should be thankful for and happy about that.

I am under no illusion that the things (both the stimuli and responses) that have happened in Ferguson and Baltimore (and all of the places before that, including things in Boston) cannot happen here (or happen here again). That said, I really do believe that we are simply doing a better job on the whole, which makes those things less likely.

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I don't know what you do, but if you're not a cop, you don't have the right to take away someone's personal freedom. So when we entrust people with that power, yes, we hold them to a higher standard. I wouldn't have it any other way. I would hope you wouldn't either.

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Can anyone address the legal issues raised by the officer's final and successful attempt to persuade the photographer to stop filming? "He's not a consenting adult. He's only a juvenile. He doesn't appreciate your filming." Leaving aside the question of the juvenile's actual preference (though if he cannot consent, how can he consent to the interaction NOT being recorded? Which is the "default" standard?) How does the arrested person's juvenile status impact the right of the photographer to continue filming on a public street? Will officers wearing body cameras be required to turn them off on learning a suspect is a juvenile? Surely not. And am I alone in viewing such videotaping as more of an obligation than a right, at least until body cams become a standard part of the police uniform? Such taping protects every honest person on camera- including an officer who might otherwise be falsely accused of bad behavior himself.

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The argument the cop started to make was that due to his status as a juvenile under arrest he can't be identified. Well, sure, by YOU, Mr. Officer. That doesn't mean if I'm walking down the street and see my 14-year old friend, Joe Schmo, getting arrested I'm not allowed to go post on Twitter "LOL @JoeSchmo is totally getting arrested right now!". Just because the person under arrest is a juvenile means nothing to the cameraman who is just a member of the public observing actions going on in public. What the cop was doing was grasping at yet another straw (about the 14th one in such a short amount of time) in an attempt to control the situation and shut this guy down. This one had more appeal since he's now using the arrestee as the pseudo-victim of the cameraman's actions.

When it comes to body cameras, the cops will keep them running when dealing with a juvenile. The department may later need to redact or refuse to release the footage if it is requested by the public because it involves an unidentified juvenile, but that doesn't mean the cop can't film a juvenile using a bodycam in the first place.

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"He's not a consenting adult. He's only a juvenile. He doesn't appreciate your filming."

Glik v Cuniffe says that you can video [adult] police in public without consent. The officer's 'consenting adult' formulation is confusing since consent is not a threshold issue for filming police in public. In public, citizens can video without consent. What's more, they can video adults and minors.

Someone should ask the kid if he minded being filmed. I'd be interested to know if the officer made that up. Lying to citizens is disrespectful. Treat people disrespectfully and that's what you'll get in return.

Also, the kid is a minor if he's under 18. The expression juvenile comes from juvenile offender and that means he's been found guilty of breaking the law. Has he?

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The Sergeant and the Officer that harassed and intimidated the guy with the camera apologize instead of Police Commissioner Evans????

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The Globe reports.

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"Take care of the small stuff, and the big stuff takes care of itself."

What do you bet that departments that take a strong position about not tolerating low-level misconduct -- misconduct that isn't necessarily illegal but that is simply belligerent, wise-ass disrespect displayed to the public -- also end up with a stronger and more professional police culture, and, therefore, fewer examples of really bad misconduct?

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