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Frustrated JP resident's plea: Be a mensch for once, not a shmuck
By adamg on Thu, 02/19/2015 - 4:46pm
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He/she
must have taken "Socialization 101".
It doesn't say they were the
It doesn't say they were the ones who shoveled it out, therefore I shall move it!
not shoveled
it doesn't even look shoveled out.
Lies
That sign completely lies. There are no legal space savers so it is valid none of the time, snow or no snow emergency.
And to diverge from the subject matter at hand, if you go to try to view the meeting in question about the Ordinance 1310 that makes any space saving illegal all the time, you will note that the City of Boston page stores them in Real Player format.
http://www.cityofboston.gov/citycouncil/cc_video_library.asp?id=5672
Real Player? Really? Really? Someone needs to tell the city ITs that it is not 1992.
Pedant
The sign says 'valid' not legal.
BlackKat misses the nuance
According to the Menino Doctrine, shovelers have a period of 48 hours after the end of a snow emergency during which the city will not remove space savers. True, that does not mean that a citizen is prohibited from removing the marker beforehand, but on the other hand who's to keep the shoveler from vandalizing a car whose owner decides that they want to park there come Saturday. I mean, we're striving to be a big city. What would they do in Philly or Chicago or New York?
The rule only applies to the city removing space savers. It does not mandate civil behavior.
I am so glad people in my
I am so glad people in my neighborhood would sooner pick up a shovel and help than take this courtroom attitude.
You're wrong. That ordinance
You're wrong. That ordinance does not ban space savers. The ordinance in question makes clear that only the city may set policy for reserving spaces, as opposed to a private entity like Haystack. And that's what the city has done here, for better or worse.
You're right on Real Player though. It's awful.
$10 says come friday at 6PM
$10 says come friday at 6PM that space saver is there, but the sign is conveniently gone. I am disappointed in my fellow JP residents for acting like whiny savages.
You mean for acting like they
You mean for acting like they're from Southie?
Yawn... get a new hobby. Ever
Yawn... get a new hobby. Ever been to Southie? It's not that bad, I promise!
I suppose it depends on who is stating it...
Maybe its not written down but the mayor has said something about it right?
Then there is written law, but who follows those?
It was going well until the
It was going well until the last two lines. "Try NOT being an asshole"? "For once"? OK, buddy, look who's talking here.
Well ...
Anointing it with lighter fluid and striking a match wouldn't count as moving it, would it?
Space savers have been a time
Space savers have been a time honored tradition in South Boston for decades. The people who grew up there honor that tradition as a common courtesy. New people move in and complain about it. If I shovel out my elderly parents and they go to buy food or to a Doctor's appointment, should some twenty something be able to move in and take that space because they grew up with a driveway and feel entitled to it? I don't think so. The South End has always been transient. Different neighborhood, different rules. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". If "visitors" don't like it, stay home or at least leave your vehicle in garage, you're temporary and parking is scarce.
different rules...
..well, now there's a public policy that should have great and harmonious results. still a public way, folks.
If the space in question
is on a public street that all drivers have right to access, then the answer to the question is simple - YES.
And a twenty-something taking an open space on a street is not entitlement. But digging out a space and expecting to reserve it for your own use is.
Except it is broke so it should be fixed.
You have the entitlement backwards. It is entitled to think that because you were parked in a spot when the snow started, you get to keep that spot for private use for the next few weeks. And this isn't about visitors vs "locals", whatever that means. plenty of locals don't like space savers, and plenty of selfish visitors jump on the idea.
Slavery was a time honored
Slavery was a time honored tradition in the south for decades. Just saying.
In New England, too
In fact, the amount of time between the explicit legalization of slavery in MA to its ultimate demise after the courts decided that the new constitution prohibited it (1630s to the 1790s) was longer than slavery was legal in Georgia (1730s to the 1860s).
http://slavenorth.com/massachusetts.htm
Yes
Wanting to use the parking space you essentially created is just like slavery.
Thanks for keeping things in perspective.
3 Hours?
Worst. Shoveler. Ever.
[insert comic book guy here]
Don't scoff
It too me 2.5 hours to shovel 3' around my car (in a lot) after the first major storm.
1. Care for doing a thorough job
2. Overweight
3. Out of shape
4. Asthma
Breathing is good. Not hurting myself is good. I took my time and chose to do it when I had the time as opposed to OMG!!! I HAVE TO GET OUT OF THIS SPOT RIGHT NOOOOWWWWWW!!! I'm already late for work so I'm going to do a half-assed job and then only people in SUVs will be able to park in MY spot!
And no - I did not use a space saver as the lot I park in is in a high turnover shopping district. I've gotten 'my' spot back only a handful of times and when I didn't, I either gun my wee Corolla into a spot of unshoveled/unplowed mush (Tokoyo drifting into said spot because slow and steady doesn't get you fully into said spot) or I wait for someone to leave (as long as I don't hold up traffic).
That timeframe is not unbelievable.
And upon reading "(for once)"
The baseball bat came out and the space saver was removed from this earth.