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New downtown supermarket will be subway accessible

Roche Bros. reports its new Downtown Crossing store, opening next Wednesday, will have entrances/exits onto the concourse of the Downtown Crossing T stop.

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Reminds me of the old days when one could access both Jordan Marsh and Filene's Basement from the concourse.

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I miss that!!!

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They could always dig a tunnel leading into the Marshall's/TJ Maxx complex. Not quite the same, but something...

On that topic, I've always wished there was a walking tunnel from DTX to State, especially in the winter when my options are to either wait 10 minutes for a train that will bring me one stop for my connection, or walk back up and out the far end of the platform (by Marshall's) and walk up Washington to the Milk Street entrance.

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When I was a child in the 1960s I thought that concourse with it's shining department store entrances, smell of Jordan marsh muffins, newsstand and various other establishments
was exciting and glamorous. In hindsight, maybe it wasn't as glamorous as all that, but it was certainly better than shady dump it is now.

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Just yay!

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We really need a grocery around here. I'm very excited.

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Maybe as a perk, the next time the T raises fares, they'll allow unlimited rides within a 2 hour time period, the way many other transit systems now do. That way you could hop off the Red Line on your way home, buy dinner at Roche Bros., and hop back on your connecting ride on the Orange or Green Line. There's no reason why making a 20 minute stopover should cost an extra fare. This would be a huge benefit for all businesses close to T stops.

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How many riders on their way home from work are not using a pass, which makes this a moot point?

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(I hate to mention this because it starts a debate on here)

But.. what you are describing is POP (proof of payment). That would happen if the MBTA ever moves to POP. I'm hoping its sooner than later for that. But I can dream I guess.

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LOGIC FAILURE. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

They will never, ever, consider this as it's too radical of a change. Middle East peace will come first.

Perhaps if NYC did it first...

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No, whether a ticket is good for one ride or a time period has nothing to do with POP. In fact, many POP systems have tickets that explicitly state they are only valid for one trip in one direction, and the station you purchased it at printed prominently (e.g. New Jersey Transit light rail).

It's also worth noting that this inability to exit and reenter applies only to the subway. You may do so on the commuter rail and buses (e.g. going to Newburyport you can hop on a Rockport train, then off again at Beverly to wait for a Newburyport train, rather than waiting at North Station, on one ticket; and getting on and off buses within 2 hours is free no matter if it's the same route, or even the same direction). I feel like the subway should work the same way.

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I agree a small window of free transfers only makes too much sense. But if they weren't willing to do this to help people who had to leave the system to transfer between the Red/Green and Blue lines then they aren't going to start doing it now.

It's an example of something that would cost little and lead to people enjoying the system more which is why it won't be enacted. If the Baker report has taught us anything it's that us cheapskate riders are to blame with our low fares, not decades of mismanagement.

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why blame administration and *cough*cough*cough* Charlie Baker himself when you can blame everyone else, riders included.

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You can't go from an inbound D car to an inbound C car, or an outbound C to an outbound D at Cleveland Circle/Reservoir even though the walk is shorter than the transfer between Blue and Orange at State.

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And much mismanagement!

Now they have an excuse to make some transfers not free!

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I love how despite 8 years of disinvestment in the T under a Democratic Governor, with a Democratic House and Senate alongside him, can now be completely ignored, because a Republican Governor who's been on the job for less than 5 months has made unpopular proposals on how to reform the T. Everything wrong with the T, and everything that will be wrong with the T, is Baker's fault.

This is the left-wing version of right-wingers' "#thanksobama".

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It isn't Baker the Governor that screwed up the T.

It was Baker the Libertarian Think Tank Shill who engineered and promoted the fundamentally flawed "forward funding" scheme who screwed up the T. Now Baker is merely working on finishing the job that he started years ago while earning his Koch Scouts Merit Badge for Union Busting by blaming everyone but himself.

So, when people blame Baker for the mess, it is because Baker is responsible for the mess. Not from his few months in office, but because of his design of the mess. Just call it planned obsolescence.

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