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A senseless waste of cosmetics as veneer of civilization erodes in Brighton

Stupid marked up car in a space in Brighton after the snow

A Brighton resident forwards this photo of her car this morning and reports:

Basically I came home last night to Brighton and a car had taken the spot that I had shoveled out and put a space saver in. This was understandable as I got home at 10PM. I luckily saw a spot at the end of the street that did not have a space saver in it, so I parked there. And woke up to ‘YOU ARE A SHITTY PERSON’ in red lipstick on my windshield. Apparently someone thought that they could get home after 10PM and still have a spot that didn’t even have a space saver in it.

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Keep 'em coming, I've got plenty of popcorn.

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The open spot was probably the result of one of the Self Proclaimed Heroes around here who go around and toss space savers.

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so you shouldn't park in a space with a saver and if you see a space without a saver you shouldnt park there either.

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I shoveled out an extra space to be nice and everyone else is too scared to park there except the original idiot who didn't shovel in the first place and doesn't even have a resident sticker.

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It's like the old joke:

A guy is driving down the street when there is a red light ahead and he drives right thru it. His passenger say "Hey, what are you doing? That light was red!" The driver says "Don't worry. This is how my brother drives." As he continues down the street there is another red light and he drives right thru it also. His passenger again asks him what he is doing running the red lights and again the driver says not to worry, his brother drives this way.

Than he comes to a green light and stops. The passenger says "The light is green. Why are you stopping?"

The driver says "Because my brother might be driving this way!"

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My dad first heard that joke in Kuwait. Every day, I'm a little sad about how applicable jokes like that are right here in the US.

So here's a repurposed Indonesian joke (original actors were Suharto, Habibi, and Wiranto):

Baker, Walsh, and -- oh hell, let's say Markey -- are all riding over MA in a plane. Baker takes out a $100 bill and says, "I'm going to throw this out the window and make one of my people very happy!"

Walsh, not to be outdone, takes out two $50 bills and says "I'm going to throw these out the window and make two of my people very happy!"

Markey takes out five twenties and says "I'm going to throw these out the window and make five of my people very happy!"

The pilot turns around and says, "Why don't you throw ME out the window and make ALL of your people very happy?"

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It took you almost eleven minutes to blame someone other than the asshole who scrawled a crude message in red lipstick. You're slipping.

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If you move a space saver and don't put your car in its spot you are a coward and an idiot who should mind their own business.

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These boards are full of people who chastise their fellow residents for *not* picking up and properly disposing of others' trash when they see it. Now you're saying we shouldn't?

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"Mind your own business"...the tagline/excuse of mouth-breathing dipshit assholes everywhere. You're trashy, period.

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The person who did the deal is responsible for this but considering that someone parked in his original space saved spot and this spot was open sounds like someone went down the street space-saver-a-tossin

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So a good Samaritan picked up trash that had been thoughtlessly strewn in the road. Was that wrong?

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What if the city had removed it?

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Space savers are fine in Brighton.

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I see.

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It's not trash day and space savers are fine to have in Brighton. What exactly is your point? Is the city just going around picking up random stuff in the street here now? Just the street outside looks the same as it was yesterday.

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Space savers are not fine to have.

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Person A saved the space and left.

Person B threw away the space saver and parked there.

Person B left and didn't put the space saver back because they weren't saving it for themselves.

Person C parked in a seemingly open spot and now has to clean lipstick off their windshield.

In other words, VANDALISM IS WRONG!

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Vandalism is wrong and this is example #454567 that the space saver "system" works for no one and anyone claiming otherwise can't accept simple facts.

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Will someone just finally kill someone else over one of these, please, so the city might finally decide to care?

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Preferably an acquaintance of the Mayor.

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Too many permits not enough spaces.

It's time for the city to start charging market rate for Resident Permits, which in SoBo would be between 150 and 250 a month.

I don't see why people expect the government to subsidize their lifestyle of car ownership. Oh wait, yes i do. I certain demographic benefits from this subsidy therefore it is OK. It's not government considered "waste".

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Elimiante the permits entirely. It's a public street, therefore, all members of the public who drive cars should have an equal right to use the public parking spaces available to them.

Permit parking is simply an entitlement program.

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Your proposal would just shift the entitlement to non-residents who could drive into the city from wherever, park on a street in the Back Bay, Beacon Hill, etc all day for free while they work in their office. That would create a larger problem for residents and encourage more commuters to drive into the city.

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Charge a fee for the permit (perhaps equal to a certain number of days of metered parking, and scaled to take into account distance from, or use of, public transportation vis-a-vis the permit holder) and limit permits to one per household. Make the permit usable only for a space within 100 feet, either direction, of the dwelling. With the one-per-household permit comes the right to place one space saver in the event of a snowstorm (a city-issued cone, imprinted with address and permit holder's name.)

This would give a source of revenue to the city (at least enough to cover the cost of the cones and issues of enforcement?), allow full-time residents to park their car in a space near their home with much less travail, also theoretically free up some spaces for visitors, and also set a legal standard for use or abuse of space savers.

This is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there will be objections. Yea? Nay? Workable with refinements?

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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Residential parking is to discourage commuters from taking up all the neighborhood parking. Whether you rent or own you are contributing to property tax.

Commuters add very little to local economy, so there is no point in favoring them. We need to share more parking with shoppers.

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Yup, charge $200 a year for a parking permit and use that money to cover the millions we are over budget for plowing the streets. If you want clear streets and a place to park you should pay for it.

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market rate is $200 a month.

So $2,400 a year for a permit. The City needs to make this happen!

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Requires parking permits. My neighborhood, in fact.

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When will being ironic go out of style?

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coverage devoted to the space saver issue and the consequences one encounters when they move a spot. However, I wonder if continued press at the national level might "shame" the Mayor's office into actually taking a stand and eradicating the practice? I would have to think that Mahhty and his PR flacks do not like the fact that Boston is being painted as city of petty, churlish, potentially unhinged folks who pledge allegiance to an outdated and unproductive street parking "dibs" code.

Anecdotally, I saw a sublime "space saver"conflict yesterday. A Comcast van moved a space saver and the "owner" of the spot returned and upon discovery of the Comcast van, parked his car directly in front of the van in a perpendicular manner, obstructing the road and a private way. The Comcast employee returned to his vehicle and spent the next 45 minutes laying on his horn until the "owner" of the space returned. Amazingly, the matter did not escalate. Instead, some profanity was exchanged and the "owner" moved his vehicle to let the Comcast van move on.

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Someone should put all these space saver photos into a PowerPoint presentation and share it with the committee that's considering Boston as an Olympic city.

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This winter has illustrated why the city needs to ban all space savers at all times in all parts of the city. People simply cannot behave themselves. It is unfortunate we'll need to have someone killed or maimed over this problem before the mayor would consider doing something about it.

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But there is a reality to it. Banning the practice won't introduce immediate enforcement. As long as some are willing to resort to vandalism to protect a space, then others are going to accept the practice as a means of self-preservation.

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why space savers should be allowed at all?

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If there's an open spot on my block after 7 pm in the middle of the damn summer, its only because the Mayor has evacuated the City. Space savers do nothing to promote shoveling, only hoarding, in a neighborhood where curb occupancy approaches 100%.

There was a spot up the block, so saving spaces in the neighborhood here is pointless. Again, its only hoarding. Uncivil.

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A big part of this problem is that the snow emergency routes are not being plowed effectively in the neighborhoods. So people cannot park cars on them and then they are stuck looking for spots on the side streets. If the city would hasten its removal on these main roads and remove the snow to the curb with the front loaders and dump trucks, it would free up spaces there and then have a trickle down effect on the side streets. I see a lot of tweets from the city about removal downtown and in Main Streets business districts and that's all good of course, but they're not removing the snow where people actually live. That's a major source of the frustration boiling over.

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You either haven't been reading anything here, or in fact you refuse to accept that there is a reason.

But what the heck: in brief- there is sweat equity that goes into removing feet of snow from the top and especially sides of your car that the plow drivers have plowed in. In addition, for various good and perhaps not so good reasons, only some streets get curb to curb snow removal. Therefore, after doing the work, the shoveler is looking to enjoy the product of their time and effort. If you don't save the space with a marker, per tradition, someone will park there, who didn't shovel a space, meaning that one driver shoveled no spaces while another has to shovel twice.

Putting a chair, cone, or whatnot is a claim, just like putting something on a seat at Saratoga. The problem now, in the view the other side if you will, is that people are not respecting the tradition.

Okay, so now you know the other side.

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But the benefit of the hard work is the ability to remove and use their car, not to claim a spot indefinitely.

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That's not true though. Properly shoveling so people can park there again easily takes about four times as long as shoveling the front end of your car just enough so you can barrel out of the space, which is what most people do. Then the next person who parks there spins their tires for twenty minutes going back and forth, then they leave, then it freezes solid and no one can park there for a month unless they're driving a pickup truck or a Wrangler.

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is what happened in the lot I use. And the contract company (it's a Municipal lot, contracts are awarded for maintaining all 8 in the city) hasn't come through in a while to clear the spots that are not parked in.

And this is the 20 minute shovel job vs 2 hr shovel job.

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And I gave him the answer.

The whole debate begins with philosophical overviews, but there are grades. Disagree with the other side all you want (as I do myself), but if you don't see the other side, you are half blind.

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I'm disappointed there isn't more South Boston bashing. I've been out of circulation a bit. It seems the parking troubles isn't a SB exclusive.
Please continue!

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The issue is that Marty gave the goon practice his blessing now it is spreading across the city like herpes.

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And once all of your neighbors start doing it, you have to as well. It really is like a disease.

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to tie this to anti-vaxxers?

;-)

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Is it spreading? I have not really noticed more this year, than years past.

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My guess is that the denizens of Southie are getting along, while in JP and Brighton all hell is breaking loose.

Or in fact Adam has tired of Southie folk getting all thin skinned about space saving and doesn't want them all beating up on him.

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If you vandalize my car because you think I parked in your spot, it will be worth my time and energy to pull out and then cave in "your" parking space with as much snow as I can find.

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Ah, the new space saver - the big pile of snow.

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They're ugly, painful and communicable. We need a city wide wart remover.

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As a matter of fact there WAS a space saver in the spot my 22 year old cousin shoveled out HERSELF!! She came home after working all night to finishing putting herself through college to find the kitchen chair she used had been thrown to the side and her spot taken. This person is lucky I'm not the one she did it too because they would have gotten a lot more than a message in lipstick! And he/she is also a liar writing in and changing the story, which further proves they are in fact a "shitty person!"

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What type of scrying method did you use to determine that the person whose car your cousin vandalized was the person who moved the space saver? If your cousin was "working all night," person A could've chucked the space saver, persons B-E could've used& left the space, and now person F is clearing germy graffiti off his/her windshield bc your cousin got all self-righteous over "losing" something that wasn't actually hers to begin with? You really are a charming bunch.

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Serious question: is your whole family complete trash, or just you two?

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Those people that think space saving is evil, don't always discuss it with the space saver in person. I find that most of the people that remove space savers don't park in the space. They remove the space saver and slink away, and so the hijinks begin. Of course there is an ironic similarity to vandalizing someone's car, instead of talking to them.

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HEY LISTEN space savers are A Boston tradition so if you dont like it go back to where you came from.

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IMAGE(http://www.universalhub.com/files/styles/large_image/public/images/photos/shittyperson.jpg?itok=hUxQw0Mn)

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we already know You are better than everyone. Unless you have something to add, please have a rest. You must be tired from shoveling a new parking spot every day

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Afraid that if we keep complaining about an obviously wrong and sociopathic system that eventually the city will end the program and stop your entitlement?

I sure hope that's what happens.

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Do you even read the posts?

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