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Shirley Leung channels her inner Mickey Rooney

Lets Put On A Show

How about it, kids, let's put on an Olympics! Whadaya say?!? That, in essence, is pro-business columnist Shirley Leung's argument today.

But Leung is answering the wrong question. Many people have no doubts Boston can pull off an Olympics. The question these folks are asking is whether it's worth the costs (and not just in money).

Also, Ms. Leung? The Big Dig might not be the best argument for proving Boston's suitability to host an Olympics, not when people are already worried about who gets to foot the bill for the inevitable cost overruns.

Meanwhile, over at the South End News, Kevin McCrea asks: Who is John Fish?

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Also, Ms. Leung? The Big Dig might not be the best argument for proving Boston's suitability to host an Olympics, not when people are already worried about who gets to foot the bill for the inevitable cost overruns.

And we got to keep the road when it was done!

I just cannot believe how all these politicians can support this. This is a horrible idea. Oh well, any pol that supports this boondoogle will surely not be re-elected.

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... any pol that supports this boondoogle will surely not be re-elected.

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You seriously think there's a chance in hell of either (a) any politician opposing the Olympics or (b) being voted out of office for failing to do so?

Stop bogarting that stuff.

To the vast majority of Mass residents (outside our snarky little enclave here at UH), the response is going to be "Oh, cool, Olympics!"

In Metro Boston, the Olympics will be supported enthusiastically by the unions and construction trades.

In other words: This is a done deal. Savvy politicians would face a lot more blowback for attempting to block the Olympics than for failing to do so.

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You seriously think there's a chance in hell of either (a) any politician opposing the Olympics or (b) being voted out of office for failing to do so?

I do. IN a big way.

Many of these pol's think like you..."I can't be touched". We just need to show them, who is paying their salaries and they can be removed as quickly as they come in if they continue to support this.

Don't ever underestimate the power of voting..

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... and he was bounced by a rather loopy insurgent opponent (Jane Byrne) at the next election -- despite being backed by the entire Chicago Dem machine.

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Add a quarter point to the Mass sales tax or something like that, let everyone chip in.

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viable candidates to oppose them in the next election. Unfortunately, the chances of that happening are far slimmer than the Boston area actually showing a net profit from hosting the 2024 Olympics.

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"Leung is answering the wrong question. Many people have no doubts Boston can pull off an Olympics. The question these folks are asking is whether it's worth the costs (and not just in money)."

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the media attention and the page clicks that an Olympics in Boston would produce! I also don't know where Ms. Leung resides,but I have a feeling it's nowhere near a site that will see much disruption from Olympics construction.

And yes, Ms. Leung, please put John Fish through the ringer. You know, they way you've been it doing so far?

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She had to move to Milton because it wasn't possible to find a nice single family house in the city of Boston.

Or at least that's what her column said last year.

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She wrote a whiny column last year about trying to navigate the South End with her stroller. Oh, the humanity!

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I smell conspiracy!

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Khan: "Do you remember Milton, Captain?"

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Space Seed revisited.

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Maybe the Olympics would be great, maybe not. Maybe they would pick the taxpayer's pockets, maybe not. Maybe they would provide the broad public benefits our city needs, maybe not.

The problem is that Boston 2024 doesn't seem to think we're smart enough to look at the details and decide for ourselves. As McCrea's article points out, the lack of transparency and accountability in the bidding process thus far has been appalling. Worse has been the complicity of our elected officials, who supposedly represent us but have refused to talk to us about the bid. The one exception was in Cambridge, where the City Council voted in opposition. I appreciate that they take their responsibility seriously, because my mayor and city councilors evidently do not. They will not get my vote again.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2014/12/09/cambridge-city-counci...
http://www.timtoomey.org/2014/12/23/op-ed-olympic-bid-lacks-transparency...

As for Shirley's article, it's just another example of the Globe being asleep at the wheel during this whole debate.

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Shirley is a cheerleader for Big Business in Boston (don't forget who her highest boss is) and the potential for even more $$$ for the always cash poor John Henry Empire is irresistible. (Let's tear down this $23 million dollar house and build ANOTHER one that's even LARGER.)

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It's déjà vu all over. Years ago outsiders changed Boston. The status quo was toppled, neighborhoods changed forever, and it cost .The Boston I knew and worked in was of rail yards and warehouses and factories and working class jobs for the working class residents. Sure , you had your sprinkling of education and medical, but most people had caluses.Then the change , and Boston raced to get global.
Well, now another opportunity as seen by some is knocking on the door, change is coming.Guess you just have to roll with it , it's been done before. Nothing lasts forever. My personal advice , buy real estate.

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I'd argue that without that change, regardless of who led it, Boston would then be like Baltimore or Cleveland. The blue collar jobs weren't going to stay here due to forces beyond the city limits.

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Ultimately our leadership will have to explain the costs and where the money comes from and our best math wizards will report whether or not it makes sense, but what is the profitability and who stands to gain the most? These are questions that are harder to answer.

During the DNC we were all told that people from all over the country would show up and spend their money. They did not. Restaurants, retailers, hotels, tourist based businesses should have a huge pay off but it isn't guaranteed. The Mayor needs to structure a plan so that no one can argue the benefits. There doesn't seem to be a single instance of a host city ever cleaning up during the Olympics. Where are the numbers?

Can locals really rent out there homes and charge people to park on their driveways? I seriously doubt it. Can the fried dough guy stay in his current spot and charge 5 dollars for a fried dough all month? I doubt it.

The security alone will put a huge strain on our day to day existence. They will close roads, search bags, create lines to get on and off all public transit. What happens to entire businesses when the street they are on gets closed to all traffic. Remember after the Marathon bombings?

There are many issues to be covered here and there are years to do it. We will all know pretty early on what kind of leaders Mr. Walsh and Mr. Baker are. They love the word transparency. When they start using that word on the first day especially after they have been all BUT transparent so far it may be time to get a little concerned. We shall see.

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Ultimately our leadership will have to explain the costs and where the money comes from and our best math wizards will report whether or not it makes sense,

Because that's the way it always works in Massachusetts.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_bid_for_the_2012_Summer_Olymp...

Possibly the greatest legacy of NYC2012 has been large-scale development of areas of New York City that underwent rezoning in order to move forward with the NYC2012 bid. Manhattan's Hudson Yards and Brooklyn's waterfront in Williamsburg and Greenpoint both underwent rezoning revisions which were in part due to the region's planned roles as Olympic venues, including the controversial West Side Stadium. (The 7 Subway Extension, which was originally planned for the 2012 Olympic bid, was revised to serve the Hudson Yards Redevelopment Project.) The development of the once industrial Queens West neighborhood on the East River may also have origins in the bid, as it was initially slated for development as the planned site of the Olympic Village. Following the Games, the site was to be bought by private developers and converted into condominiums.

After the Olympic bid failed, the construction of Citi Field in Queens, now designated as the new home of the Mets, went on as scheduled; the Mets played their first game in the stadium in April 2009.

Upon the USOC reaching a new revenue sharing agreement with the IOC in May 2012, New York had been mentioned as a potential candidate for the 2024 Summer Olympics, but its bid was declined in May 2014.

Now, I don't know much about these areas of NYC prior to their redevelopment, but were these improvements or the conversion of public/other areas into private/corporate hands for profit?

In other words, let's assume we don't get the selection by the IOC. We STILL will have started processes for redevelopment of the places we claim we're going to put things and *then* we're going to have to decide what to do with them when we lose. Since we'll have been burning money getting the locations/zoning/etc. ready, we're going to feel compelled to sell everything off to recover the losses for whomever invested in the redevelopment (city, federal, state, private donor). If that means we're taking perfectly functional infrastructure (DPW work yard), moving it to a worse location for DPW, and then selling it off in the end to make condos...then have we really won?

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Now we can look forward to even more john fish puff pieces by Leung and the globe for the next 9 years

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Someone might go to jail somewhere down the line. And then
the Globe will shake its collective head sadly and self-righteously and intone: "Nobody could have predicted the moral and fiscal disaster Boston's ill-fated Olympic bid would become..."

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In no particular order …

* The Jerk, Limp and Crawl: In an homage to Boston public transportation, athletes have to traverse a one-mile course while alternately stopping, starting and limping at random intervals. Slowest course record wins.

* The Street Pizza Jump-and-Skip: The venue will be Havard Ave. in Allston where athletes will race on both sides of the street AFTER 150 college freshmen binge the night before on Bud Light and Chinese food. (AKA "a typical Sunday morning in Allston").

* The Beacon Hill Social Hurdles: Contestants will try to complete an evening of cocktails and dinner with the well-heeled parents of a significant other without committing an egregious faux pas. Points are deducted for allowing your jaw muscles to unclench while talking.

* The Seaport Scramble: At closing time on Northern Ave. in the Seaport, athletes will have to compete with a large crowd of liquored-up Bros and Hos to see who can get a cab back to the North End first. Fisticuffs allowed. Anyone attempting to complete the course via Uber will be disqualified and comfortable.

* The Coed Marathon: Male athletes will be given 6 hours to successfully hear the life story of a college coed, including a detailed accounting of her "disastrous" high school prom night and all of her thoughts on Robert Pattinson. To win, contestants must simply not commit suicide or run head-first into a wall.

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It's complicated. Boston’s 2024 Olympics insurance policy. https://www.bostonherald.com/node/1064714350

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