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The wrath of the preggo with a space saver

Pregnant women don't have time for that passive-aggressive shit and just go straight for the kill. Somebody posted this note on W. 7 Street in South Boston yesterday, and it raises a couple of questions:

  • What did she do?
  • Is her spouse/SO out of town? Because the idea of a pregnant lady having to shovel in the snow just seems wrong, no?

Oh, and yeah, somebody else took a picture of the note and filed it as a citizen complaint:

Just curious when the city of Boston is going to pick up all these ridiculous space savers from south boston it's getting out of control.

Which is, of course, to laugh.

H/t Tommy Jeff.

Earlier:
Maybe she has a relative in Allston.

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Why not just report the expired inspection? This person has a ticket coming to them anyway.

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on cars (one vehicle was six months overdue) at the commuter rail parking lot I normally use in Melrose (which is City owned and enforced by Melrose Police, not Transit PD).

I was told that, as an expired inspection is a moving violation, an officer cannot write the violation if the car is parked.

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BTD will write you an expired inspection ticket every day of the year while your car is otherwise parked legally. I had a friend who went out on the first of the month literally to take his car in for inspection which he had forgotten about. At some ungodly hour of the morning he already had a ticket for the expired sticker.

It's possible (at least in Boston) that I think most parking tix are written by BTD and moving violations by BPD - exceptions are public safety like blocking a hydrant or the other day I saw people getting ticketed near Fenway because the area was posted for no parking by BPD.

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We got one in the early 90s, went to fight it because the car was parked, only to find out that Boston has special dispensation to enforce this on parked cars.

Somebody who hasn't bothered to get the inspection shouldn't be throwing tantrums.

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Somebody who hasn't bothered to get the inspection shouldn't be wasting the Court's time.

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This was just months after parking enforcers were given this right. Before that, they started writing tickets but those tickets were dismissed (because they were bogus) and a lot of people knew that.

Not that you would know, though. Too busy wetting your diaper?

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Listen, grandma, you're the one who made the ridiculous declaration that

"Somebody who hasn't bothered to get the inspection shouldn't be throwing tantrums."

I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of your idiotic statement, dear. YOU hadnt bothered to get the inspection, so like the entitled know-it-all crybaby that you clearly are, you tried to get out of a ticket that bogus or not, you knew you well deserved. I'm guessing you shit your panties when the clerk had the gall to tell you you're wrong.

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Swirly,
The owner of the expired registration just parked in a parking spot. It appears they did so pretty calmly.
The owner of space saver is the one who wrote a childish note and claims to have vandalized the car in some way, i.e., threw a tantrum.

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was the one throwing the tantrum

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I figured that you were a new pseud for another user who has already been warned about stalking asshattery, but that last post just nailed it.

Anyone who doubts stalking can look at the percentage of comments from this user are direct attacks on particular other users in the week that it has been in service. Oh, but that's data, and it is evile and paranoid etc.

So, should we say that 'jeepers" is a sock puppet? Oh, wait, that's taken by a sane poster.

I guess you are a jizzbag, then.

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BTD will write you an expired inspection ticket because you're parked at a public meter. Essentially, you're in public, so it's the same as if they caught you driving down the street.

At an MBTA lot, you're on private ground. Same as if you left your car in your driveway or in front of Target. BPD isn't going to ticket you parked at Target or at a commuter rail/MBTA lot.

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Could have used those Depends "back in the early 90's."

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Stalker comment. Serial number 001.

Does your male friend know how much time and energy you spend obsessing about a particular woman?

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My husband got a ticket from Watertown police for an expired registration last month- checked the address and it was the Target parking lot.
It was a "warning" not an actual ticket, but you'd think they wouldn't write warnings if they couldn't write tickets.

Slightly different because it was registration not inspection. But yes, it seems weird that they were ticketing on a private lot.

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This picture is from last year. Old news. Someone posted it to Citizens Connect to get people going. Of course Uhub jumped right on it because it's in Southie. Do your research Adamg. (Cue your angry anti Southie rant now)

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And is that a 2014 inspection sticker?

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If I see a Ferrari parked somewhere and clear all the snow off it, is it mine?

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She lied about shoveling the space.
She lied about being preggie.
She lied about being a woman.

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Another staged space saver "event" to fuel the Universal southie haters ... put down the iPhone, pick up a shovel and stop your whining.

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my point, dear.

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I <3 your 'Dear'ing only the women's comments.

Such a nice man.

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I commend you on your powers of deduction! Yes, of course, the crack UHub Southie Hata Team is even now roaming the streets of South Boston, planting fake obnoxious notes on car windshields and then taking their photos and posting them to the city via their Citizens Connect apps so that I can rub my hands in glee, and cackle and then twirl my mustache before posting them here.

And yes, they're doing it on their iPhones, of course, because they're all native New Yorkers who wouldn't be caught dead with some Android phone, like the ones all you tough but kindhearted Southie men and women use when you're not too busy helping shovel out little old ladies and 8 1/2-month-pregnant women because that's just the kind of place South Boston is and us Nooyawkas just hate that kind of virtue.

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You are very predictable, Adam.

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This picture is from last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam posted it to CC just to fuel his his Southie hate blog. Take it down a notch Adam. Your true colors are showing. Pick on someone else for a change.

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Who knows. She could have been one day pregnant.

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That's definitely a woman's handwriting.

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How can Walsh not see that the parking issue needs the government to step up?!?! Either space savers need to be explicitly prohibited and removed immediately by City employees, or they need to be explicitly allowed and enshrined in City ordinance. This in-between land that we're living in is total anarchy where everyone does what they want, sometimes with criminal force.
It's time for some leadership!

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If the city, particularly Walsh, want to allow this practice, then put it in writing, and put some rules around it. If Walsh says you can save a spot for 48 hours after a snow emergency, then send someone out to throw away the space savers after 48 hours. When Walsh says he is OK with the practice for 48 hours, people don't hear the 48, they hear "this spot is now mine until the snow melts". People do not do a good job of policing themselves, that's why we have laws and people to enforce them. At one point maybe the neighborhoods were able to figure this thing out themselves, but obviously that is not the case anymore.

Hey Walsh, you are the Mayor, this is obviously an issue in your city, do something about it.

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Feel free to head over to Fairview Cemetery to yell at the grave of the politician who came up with that.

If you can't find him there, head over to St. Michael's. It's the grave next to Vinny Marino's.

Trust me, no politician wants to be seen as the guy who cracked down on this.

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Time to let Menino rest in peace. He devoted most of his life to serving the city he loved. What have you (or me, or any of us ranting here) done lately?

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He was a bit imperial, but he read his constituents quite well. One of his best moves with dealing with the space saver issue by coming up with the 48 hour rule. Great idea, combining the reality that people put sweat equity into clearing snow off the street with the idea that in fact the street is a public space.

My point is that if people want to get pissed at a mayor of Boston for the 48 hour rule, get pissed at the proper mayor. I cannot for the life of me figure out how the partisans think that Walsh is the guy behind this. The Olympics I can see, but putting a marker in the space you just shoveled did not begin in January of 2014.

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First, Menino is not the mayor anymore. He's not responsible for making policy or enforcing the law. Oh yeah, he's dead. So that's why no one is talking about Menino. Walsh is the mayor, therefore this is his responsibility. When we have a new mayor, it will be his or her responsibility.

Second, Menino implemented a 48 hour rule, but did not enforce it. So even his "solution" had a major problem with it. If Walsh wants to implement a 48 hour rule, fine, but he should have the City trucks out collecting the trash at hour 49.

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You mean that under the previous administration people were able to leave space savers in place for a longer period of time, right?

Look, I've never seen the DPW take things from marked spaces, but then again where I live it is done but not widespread. I will say that back in 2011 I eventually have to move a space save- when there was no more snow on the ground!

My issue is that people are throwing this on Walsh. He inherited it. Sure, like a lot of Bostonians he probably is okay with the tradition, but when I read posters here go on like things were hunky dory until last winter, I have to be real about what happened before.

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nor do I think he started this tradition. I am not even saying he needs to stop it. He is the current Mayor, and this is an issue, so as the current Mayor he needs to address it in some way. Whether that way is to ban the practice, or put some rules around it, is up to him.

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Space-saving has been going on in JP for as long as I've lived here---more than 30 years---so I don't think blame should be placed on Mayor Menino just because he tried to find an equitable, although imperfect, solution to a "problem" that he inherited from god knows who.

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I wrote on another snow related thread (man, there are too many of them) that this goes back to the White administration, not that White told people to do it but in my reading of history it I have seen it in the late 1970s.

If people want to change this, circulate petitions, get a sympathetic city councilor to have a hearing or write up an ordinance. My views on the issue notwithstanding, I don't think things will change.

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Seriously, let's get a grip. How is this practical? I know, let's get a massive staff to prowl the streets and timestamp each space saver as it goes out, and remove exactly 48 hours to remove it. That'll work.

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Say the parking ban ends at 6 pm on a Monday, so at 6 pm on Wednesday you can't save spaces anymore. Then on Thursday a crew goes out and starts tossing space savers. How is this difficult or impractical? Under the unofficial, semi-condoned tradition, you are not supposed to save a space unless it is a meaningful amount of snow you need to shovel out. Generally, these types of storms cause a snow emergency and parking ban, for which there are clear and published start and end times.

The rule doesn't even need to be 48 hours, or the practice doesn't even need to be allowed at all, the point is that the city needs to take some official stance on it and enforce it, because people can't/wont regulate it themselves.

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Uhh, it's not like chalking tires. Much simpler. If the parking ban ends at 6 pm on Tuesday, your 48 hours is up at 6 pm on Thursday.

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The city won't do anything because the city CAN'T do anything.
No willpower, insufficient resources.
The dodge of allowing the space savers for a couple days is a farce.
This snow will be here a long time, at least a couple weeks.
It's only going to get worse.

BTW, pregnancy is neither a disease nor a disability.

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Being married to a woman who was once a preggo herself. Pregnant women do all sorts of vigorous things, including running marathons and climbing mountains and shoveling snow on West 7th Street. But the note writer felt she was worthy of special consideration because of her condition, so I felt it was worthy of, um, special attention (maybe next time she should attach a flyer to her traffic cone: "This space shoveled out by a pregnant woman and it's MINE").

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Adam, many women have at risk pregnancies and actually do have to take it easy for the sake of carrying the baby to full term. Please don't assume that just because your wife was fortunate not to be in that situation, that others aren't. Also, preggo is pretty derogatory.

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Yes, I know about all the things that can happen during pregnancy that would require a woman to stay in bed (not just the husband of a woman who gave birth here but a former medical reporter - ask me about the time I wrote about the woman with two uteri! Who gave birth! After flying back here from Alaska because she so loved her Ob/Gyn at Newton-Wellesley!).

But, see, I was replying to somebody who seemed a bit put out by the notion that I couldn't, um, conceive of the idea that women are strong and tough and can do strong and tough things even unto the last days of their pregnancy.

And I did so in a discussion about an allegedly pregnant woman strong and tough enough to shovel out a parking space. If the note is true, I'm going to assume she doesn't have one of those conditions that require bed rest.

So, in conclusion: Women are a land of contrasts.

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It's slang. It carries some pornographic overhead, true. But derogatory? Nobody's saying "hey, look at that dirty preggo over there". There are even whole "baby announcement" idea sites built around jars of Prego sauce. I know plenty of women who don't necessarily like the term but they didn't think the person was putting them down with it.

I've also known women who have used it to describe themselves...or is this like the n-word. It's fine if a pregnant woman says she's a prego or calls her best pregnant friends prego, but men and infertile women aren't allowed to use it in polite company?

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To my delicate sensibilities. That word is just awful. Yick. Ban it, then the space savers. Ban them all! /end rant.

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... I would be offended if my friends called me a jar of crappy spaghetti sauce.

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You are a finely blended Paul Newman's!

:-)

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because the NFL wants their players to have "family time".

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Ordinance 1310 states:

No person ... shall have the authority to sell, lease, RESERVE, or facilitate the reserving of any street, way, highway, road or parkway.

http://www.universalhub.com/files/haystack-report.pdf

Seems pretty straightforward. The Mayor is ignoring the law.

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Great. Now, not only do we have to deal with this person who sees nothing wrong with trying to steal public property, they will be passing the propensity down to their offspring.

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She had her brother-in-law the cop pull the plate information and is going to list the guy as the baby daddy on the birth certificate!

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I like the emphasis she put on the word "mine." No. It is public space. You do not own it.

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She sounds like Gollum, "You stole it from us! My precious! We hates you forever!" She needs to bite into a raw, cold fish and relax.

How does she know that there was a cone in her spot when this person parked in it? Maybe someone else moved it. Maybe a plow scooped it up. Maybe someone took it to use as their own space saver. Maybe the wind blew it away.

The problem with this foolish space saver system is that it is rife with flaws. How many linear feet of parking does a saver entitle you to? What's a saver? I've seen some items poorly placed that make it hard to tell if it's a space saver or just litter.

Why not just a nice firm rule where the sanitation workers remove all the space savers 48 hours after a snow emergency (not just a flurry)?

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Trash in the street ----> trash in the truck.

QED

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She needs to bite into a raw, cold fish and relax.

...the internets.

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I bet she put sugar in sugar in the gas tank.

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She's going to raise a whiny, bratty, selfish, bully of a kid.

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Slightly off topic, but you can view a map on the app that pinpoints complaints. The poorer/blacker areas of town - parts of Dot and Mattapan - don't seem to be using it. The city should consider some outreach - this is a great service that people should take advantage of.

Squeaky wheel and all that.

My neighbors often ask me to do stuff like report streetlights that are out. I suspect they think the city cares more about my complaints because I'm white, but Citizens Connect is colorblind!

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The person who stole the spot was also Pregnant AND driving around with an elderly/sick relative? Shouldn't that make her more deserving of the spot? (The defense of space savers always resolves the need of the saver.) That's like a double-win space saver karma wise.

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Then the person could post a note on their windshield stating such and maybe the pregnant woman will read it and not be so pissed off. Obviously no one is obligated to do anything out of courtesy or a sense of compassion. You'd be surprised though at how nice people can be if you explain your situation to them. Personally, I think the person who left the note should have left their phone number to give the person who parked in that space the opportunity of calling the pregnant woman and letting her know that they are leaving that space so she can park there. Just my two cents. Bash away, haters.

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The city could switch to a parking system where people could enter their medical conditions, age, amount shoved, time expected to be in the space, time lived in the area, time parents lived in the area, model car, yearly salary, and purpose for parking.

Then, using a complex formula developed by MIT, it would rank the people's need for the parking space and assign them a parking space number which is completely fair and reflects their lot in life.

This way no one could claim they deserved a spot more then anyone else.

(Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

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But that's basically how the current BPS school-assignment system works: After ten years of trying, and failing, to come up with new school-assignment zones, an MIT grad student came in and built them a system that uses a variety of criteria to determine which schools a kid might be eligible for.

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What should happen is that parents quickly barge into the schools and place a cone on a desk which reserves that seat for their child for the remainder of the year.

Of course it helps if you already have a child in the school system that way the first kid can leave a cone for their sibling when the school year ends.

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I want to hug this comment so hard.

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For being a frozen, snowbound pregnant lady apparently frothing at the mouth with righteous rage, her penmanship is impeccable throughout.

Yeah, she might just be on the way to raising an entitled, vulgar bully of a child but whatever - that kid will be able to leave a note with the best of them.

"and that's why.. you always leave a note.."

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People, it's a pretty (if unintentionally) funny note, I posted it on my facebook page because it's a great example of one of the ways Boston is unusual. We can rant about it here but given the length of time the issue has existed I think we might declare it at some sort of weird equilibrium.

Oh, and "Now guess what I did" is *brilliant* psyops.

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I'm waiting for the punch line too

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I was pregnant and gave birth during the winter of '95-'96. Otherwise known as "that winter with the record snowfall".

No sympathy for this beatch whatsoever.

My husband had a fall in December of that winter and was in a cast to his hip. I was on bed rest. We lived in the city.

We did what a responsible parent SHOULD do - we asked to rent a spot and we started making arrangements for snow removal so I could drive my husband to work.

However, our landlords and neighbors wouldn't hear of it - the landlords gave us THEIR spot and parked on the street themselves AND cleared out our car for us! We paid them back massively in the April Fools storm.

Maybe if this special entitled twit wasn't such a ... well ... special entitled twit, her community would take care of her like ours took care of us (and like we took care of them).

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What a winter that was. I was living in the west Fens, plowed in every time, and it never took me more than an hour to shovel out. I went out for pho just about every day just so I wouldn't kill myself.

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Thankfully the only space saving that goes on in my neighborhood is the occasional contractor. However, I would NEVER remove a cone that is reserving a spot for a pregnant woman, someone who is in poor health or someone who is elderly. Sorry! I have a heart.

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However, I would NEVER remove a cone that is reserving a spot for a pregnant woman, someone who is in poor health or someone who is elderly. Sorry! I have a heart.

Because just driving by a cone in a saved spot - I can't tell if the "owner" is pregnant, in poor health, nor elderly (or maybe even all 3, it could happen (science + $!), I don't judge).

How do you know? Please do tell.

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Earning your spot for 48 hours seems reasonable if you shoveled 40" of snow.
The problem is people saving spaces for weeks after a few inches of snow...

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Or before any snow starts...

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Your'e a grown-up that lives in a neighborhood of a big city that has limited parking spaces. Unless you actually own the spot that you're car is in you have no special rights to it, whether you shovel it or not. You probably knew that when you moved in. I know it's frustrating to go through all that work only to have someone take it later on but LIFE CAN SOMETIMES BE UNFAIR. Either don't have a car or suck it up when someone takes your spot. This is one of the reasons I moved to out of Boston

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Let me guess...you have a driveway?

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...you do realize that women can be pregnant without having a spouse or SO right? Not everyone is in (or wants) a partnership.

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I am aware that this woman might have gotten pregnant without a partner, whether through an anonymous sperm donation or the help of a beloved male acquaintance, and that she maybe even moved here from another state so that she has no one to help her shovel her space, forcing her to do it all by herself, even if she possibly has a medical condition that requires her to stay in bed until her pregnancy is far enough along that her baby can be safely delivered, but we shouldn't rule out the possibility that she is strong and fit, because, after all, pregnancy is not a disability or illness, and we just don't know, because in this case, this photo is worth less than 1,000 words, and, well, at this point, I'm almost tempted to keep on going and coming up with more possible explanations and justifications just to see how long I can keep this sentence running, like, could I top something by Faulkner or Joyce or Garcia Marquez, but that would be kind of a pointless exercise, partly because my shtick, such as it is, is to see what's the shortest possible posts I can write and let the reader fill in the rest and given that I'd just be expressing my jealousy of people who have become millionaires by flipping houses in South Boston and moving to Newton and I should probably just curl into a corner somewhere and cry.

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Breath, Adam, Breath. That was one long sentence...

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Over 1000 to go before you get into Absalom, Absalom! territory.

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You should totally pull a Kafka and repost this in German. And be sure to sprinkle in some vague nouns to screw with the anons!

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Ich bin mir bewusst, dass diese Frau schwanger ohne Partner über einen anonymen Samenspende oder Hilfe eines geliebten männlichen Bekannten bekommen haben, ob und dass sie vielleicht sogar hier aus einem anderen Staat so bewegt, dass sie niemanden, ihr zu helfen schaufeln sie hat Raum und zwang sie, alles allein tun, auch wenn sie hat möglicherweise ein medizinischer Zustand, der sie benötigt, um im Bett zu bleiben, bis die Schwangerschaft ist weit genug, dass ihr Baby sicher geliefert werden können, aber wir sollten die Möglichkeit nicht ausschließen, dass sie stark und fit, denn schließlich ist der Schwangerschaft keine Behinderung oder Krankheit, und wir wissen einfach nicht, denn in diesem Fall ist das Bild im Wert von weniger als 1.000 Worte, und, na ja, an dieser Stelle, ich bin fast versucht, zu gehen und kommen mit mehr mögliche Erklärungen und Rechtfertigungen zu halten, um zu sehen, wie lange ich diesen Satz läuft, wie zu halten, konnte ich oben etwas von Faulkner oder Joyce oder García Márquez, aber das würde Art sein ein sinnloses Unterfangen, auch weil mein shtick, wie es ist, ist zu sehen, was kürzeste Beiträge ich kann schreiben und lassen den Leser füllen Sie die Ruhe und da ich gerade meine Eifersucht werden von Menschen, die zu Millionären wurden zum Ausdruck durch Flipping Häuser in South Boston und den Übergang zu Newton und ich sollte wohl einfach in eine Ecke curl irgendwo und zu weinen.

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Ich ziehe vor den Neologismus "renovierungprofitieren" anstelle "Flipping Häuser".

Aber mir nichts!

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Adam ist ein Verlierer

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Even if I didn't have a daughter taking German, I have Google Translate. Oh, anon, you wound me so!

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I learned that the spot in front of a person's home belongs to them. Period. No discussion. A neighbor explained to me that the spot in front of the house where his apartment was located - on the other side of the street - was his spot. Why? Because it is front of his home and he says it is.

He would broach not debate.

Perhaps the problem is not just space savers but a genuine belief that a parking spot in front of a person's home is "their" spot. Not legally their spot; they don't pay taxes applied to that bit of asphat; they don't pay a special fee for cleaning it up with street sweepers. They don't pay the company that periodically repaves the road that their to replace the asphalt when the road has to be repaved. But by some theology of urban existence the God of city life deems that the spot in front of - or near - a person's home is their spot.

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That wouldn't be a problem.

When it is six cars per house, who gets that special spot?

Sometimes a single family will get six permits and insist that everyone gets to park in front of their house and that they "own" the space in front of their neighbor's house, too, because they were there first, etc. A friend of mine, living in her house for fifteen years, is now dealing with this entitlement nonsense because she bought a car. Never mind that it is public space on a public street, and her address has only one car, she's been told she can't park in front of her house.

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I learned that the spot in front of a person's home belongs to them.

You learned wrong. I understand what you mean by "theology of urban existence", but the opinions of the faithful notwithstanding, just because it's theology and just because people believe it reallyreallyreallyreally hard, doesn't make it true.

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If I have to shovel my private property (sidewalk) so the public can use it or face a $50 fine, then why can't I save the spot on the public street I also shoveled with a plastic purple pony? All of the people who work at one of the many colleges/hospitals in the city that don't pay real estate taxes should stfu and tell your employer to pay their fair share and maybe Boston could afford better snow removal (among other things) so you can get to work on time.

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If I have to shovel my private property (sidewalk) so the public can use it or face a $50 fine, t

Check your deed, is the sidewalk really private property?

one of the many colleges/hospitals in the city that don't pay real estate taxes

Do you have evidence that the PILOT payments are significantly smaller than they ought to be?

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Yes, I have and I've had an instrument survey. All sidewalks are private property hence the city's ability to fine owners for not shoveling. And the PILOT programs are a joke, $24m collected in 2014.

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If I have to shovel my private property (sidewalk) so the public can use it or face a $50 fine, t

Check your deed, is the sidewalk really private property?

one of the many colleges/hospitals in the city that don't pay real estate taxes

Do you have evidence that the PILOT payments are significantly smaller than they ought to be?

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Marty here is what you do: Declare space saver legal for 48 hours after the ban ends via an ordinance. However, the space saver must be issued by the city and can be bought at city hall for some fee say $25. The space saver includes a spot for you to personalize it so you may recognize it as your own. 48 hours after DPW collects any space savers that are out. If you remove your space saver you may re-use it next storm if not and you abuse the 48 hour rule then ya gotta go buy another one.

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I'm so happy she's reproducing tomorrow's asshole.

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Man, how did I miss this? Somebody in South Boston tried to rent a shoveled-out space on the street.

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Adam, you really do seem to be hating on Southie these days huh?

In my neighborhood (not South Boston or even Boston proper) everyone helps each other out. We put out space savers, people park in each others spots because they know their schedules. Most people on the street know each others cars as well. If you think this note was bad, I don't think you'd like the treatment the person would get on my street if seen parking in the spot of a woman who was pregnant. The neighbors , who often are looking out the window, would be all over the person.

I use a saver and I justify it because that is the culture of the street I lI've on. It helps that there are slightly more spots then people on the street with cars so there is "always" a spot available, you just have to clean it out. On more than one occasion a neigbor, I suspect a Uhub user based on these comments, will take a reserved spot even though the spot behind it is available if shoveled. In those instances they often get shoveled into their spot with the snow from the snowed in spot. Many times with the help of other neighbors with snow blowers etc. I think the rule should be as soon as the last spot in a certain radius is cleaned out then the savers should be removed as a critical mass has been reached.

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Welcome back.

The kid is yours, no?

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Don't be shocked if the kid looks like the milkman!

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