Off-duty Cambridge cop accused of being part of group that beat a Revere restaurant worker
Jonathan Vicente, 25, is on unpaid leave following his arrest shortly after an early morning incident on July 10 behind a Revere restaurant, Cambridge Police said today.
Vicente was among a group of men urinating in the alley behind Volare, 388 Broadway, when a restaurant worker spotted them and told them to stop, the Suffolk County District Attorney's office says:
That employee was physically assaulted and treated for injuries that were not life-threatening. Revere officers stopped a vehicle a short distance away occupied by Vicente and another man. In light of witness statements, marks on Vicente’s hands, and stains consistent with blood on a shirt believed to be his, Vicente was charged with disorderly conduct while the investigation into the group assault continues.
Vicented was released on personal recognizance at his arraignment on a charge of disturbing the peace in Chelsea District Court and is due back in court on Aug. 10, the Suffolk County DA's office reports.
Innocent, etc.
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I would say
That there are a lot more bad apples in police departments than people think. It is mostly a police mentality and not racism that these things happen. Working beside police officers, I have first hand knowledge on how they feel entitled and in some cases above the law. They can get away with what other citizens cannot. The only difference these days is that they are being caught on camera from citizens recording them. Finally, it is not just their word against a citizen. Many police officers stretch the truth or worse. Most are good but there are a higher percentage of bad cops out there. Too bad the thin blue line stands for the code of silence.
Citations plz
Citations plz
I cite common sense and experience
Plenty of great cops out there but way too many won't cross the blue line when the bad apples act up.
And I've personally seen them misrepresent facts in both reports and under oath.
Why, too lazy to use the internet?
It doesn't take mad research skills to learn about this stuff.
Pretty sure this goes against
Pretty sure this goes against your point. He was identified as a suspect in a crime and arrested, just like any other person. He appeared to receive zero preferential treatment.
O-Fish?
He alleges to be a retired cop. Does that count as a citation?
Volare? Not surprising. They
Volare? Not surprising. They've had incidents of trouble in the past. In fact, IIRC they were called before the licensing board to answer for the trouble. It's too bad because I've been there before and the food is quite good. However, for some reason they seem to attract and different crowd late at night.
Free Pass
This guy should be charged with indecent exposure - Level III sex offender, resisting arrest, and physical assault. Instead he is charged with a minor violation of disturbing the peace. It is no wonder there is such a lack of trust in how police are held accountable in their actions.
I'm not defending this guy at
I'm not defending this guy at all, but, the stereotypical comments always irk me...
Indecent Exposure? Not if the penis wasn't actually viewed by an offended victim.
Resisting Arrest? Only if the arresting officer was placed in harms way.
Police work, no one knows how to do it better than those with absolutely no training/experience
FYI
There have been plenty of people who got tagged as sex offenders for "indecent exposure" just like that.
Police work, all fine and dandy until the police are on the receiving end.
define "plenty"
I've never, ever, ever in my 20+ years of law enforcement ever see someone have to register as a sex offender who was not at least charged with a felony type sexual act.
This enough for you?
http://www.familywatchdog.us/BlogView.asp?ID=1
lol you aren't serious are you?
That is a link to a study debunking the myth that people in the US have to register when urinating in public. It pretty much proves my point.
That is from your own source!!
level 3 sex offender?
for pissing behind a restaurant and being an asshole?
Nobody should be labeled a sex offender for peeing in an alley
It's a disgrace that it happens to anybody. Peoples lives can be ruined by being labeled a sex offender. The guys a dirtbag though, and hopefully will be charged with assault.
Just not in Massachusetts?
It may not happen here, but in some states, peeing in public might lead to the need to register as a sex offender.
Public Urination and Sex Offender Registration
Prosecutors occasionally charge defendants with the crime of indecent exposure or public lewdness. If convicted, these defendants face the onerous duty of registering as sex offenders, a sentence that will follow them for the rest of their lives. Several states allow for such registration, including Arizona (involving minors and repeat crimes), Ariz. Rev. Stat. §13-3821; California, Cal. Penal Code §§314(1)-(2), 290; and Georgia (when done in view of a minor) Ga. Code Ann. §§42-1-12, 16-6-8.
From: http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/sex-crim...
Were They Having Some Sort Of Contest?
Alcoholism is a disease and
Alcoholism is a disease and doesn't discriminate. I'm sure there's a treatment program available.
Racist beating
After watching the news, was the person beaten a minority? Could civil rights violations be added to the charges?
Only if they were also yelling racial or ethnic slurs at him
The simple fact the two parties were of different races/nationalities/whatever is not enough.
The officer is Hispanic...
The officer is Hispanic...
Something doesn't add up.
You can't be arrested for disorderly conduct unless the police officer actually witnesses the conduct that was disorderly.
On leave? On LEAVE?
On leave? Released on personal recognizance? He handed someone a beatdown, why isn't he in jail? Because he's a cop and therefore trustworthy and would never do anything like...oh wait...nevermind.
lbb
He isn't in jail because 99.9% of anyone in the same situation wouldn't be in jail. Do you understand the concept of bail?
Personal recognizance
Personal recognizance != bail. You were saying?
Yea, and everyone else gets the same treatment?
Are you ok?
Personal recognizance means you pay a $40 fee and show up to court the next day. Happens in probably over 90% of non-warrant arrests with no default history.
He's only been charged with disorderly conduct
And not convicted of that.
That he "beat down" a person might an allegation, but it's not even a charge yet, and we have very little information at this time about what happened. We can't start condemning people based on what we guess/assume happened.
Not to mention, an officer
Not to mention, an officer can only arrest for a basic A&B only if it happened in his presence, which in this case it did not.
Really? That seems odd.
Aren't a lot of domestic calls for assault? Strange to imagine police showing up to find a woman bleeding from the nose, and a guy with bloody knuckles, and them telling her, "Sorry, we can't arrest this guy because the assault didn't happen in our presence."
Dan, officers have the right of arrest on domestic assaults.
Mass General 209A laws allow police to arrest for domestic assaults.
Thanks Pete
I appreciate the clarification.
Honestly, if he wasn't a cop
Honestly, if he wasn't a cop he might have not even gotten arrested. Usually, around these parts something like this is handled with a summons at worst, or the offending party is just told to GTFO.
Due to the current political climate, the revere cops might have decided to lock him up to avoid the appearance of impropriety even though they may normally let someone like this go. It's also possible that he was a drunk dickhead to the cops.
unpaid leave too.
He must be on probation. 100% chance he loses his job then.
You are most likely correct.
You are most likely correct. He got on the job very recently, he is either on probation still or barely off it.
You have to walk on eggshells when you're a probie....especially when you drink.
That being said, hopefully he gets his day in court, and this gets sorted out fairly.