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Trump supporter in Chinatown?
By adamg on Sun, 02/28/2016 - 11:02am
ItalianInBoston spotted this graffiti (well, it would be hard not to) on Knapp Street in Chinatown last night.
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And as long as we're getting our hate on ...
This photo, from that Ku Klux Klan rally in Anaheim, bears a resemblance to a photo from our own past.
Yep. This is where context is important.
The klan is loathesome, but they have a right to make political speech without being physically attacked. All reports I've read indicate the klansmen were acting in self defense. Crazy. Best way to minimize the klan is to ignore them. The more they talk, the less inclined a rational person is to join them.
Cool your jets, dude
Adam, I respect that your admin/a nice guy and all but this white guilt needs to stop. Both sides are just as stupid for resorting to violence. It's funny that people who want to quote Gandhi or Dr.King seldom adhere to their transcending messages of peace and peaceful demonstration. Why can't the Martians just invade already *sarcasm
Guilt, nah
My ancestors were too busy being herded around eastern Europe when they weren't being slaughtered, for hundreds of years even before the Holocaust, for me to feel guilty about anything.
That doesn't mean, however, that I can't recognize that wrongs are still being committed against people here.
To paraphrase Patrick Henry, if this be guilt, make the most of it.
Was that a flipped version of a humblebrag?
If there were any Amalekites left, they might see it differently. Same for the Canaanites/Phoenicians - not any left to point out that your progenitors were as bloodthirsty and genocidal as the rest of humanity.
Smartphones /Caveman Minds
My ancestors (Tainos) were enslaved and killed by Columbus, but I don't use that as a means of furthering an agenda. Times change and it's unfair to hold certain groups accountable for stuff their ancestors did long ago. All this is similar to how North Korea holds a prisoner (and their offspring's) in prison camps...
Accountability or forgetting?
There's a role for accountability and a role for forgiveness, and I think both involve a great deal of introspection and learning. I'm not sure I fully understand what you're aiming to say with your comment, Ahab, but I suspect you're asking people like me to just stop talking about the deaths of my family - including close family like first cousins - at the hands of a Nazi. The Holocaust isn't long ago history. And even if it was, hate reverberates through generations.
Let's not forget that while Hitler was just one person, people who were inspired by his words murdered millions. The hateful comments of one person with a platform can inspire violence. Let's all remember what can be wrought in the hands of a powerful speaker. Let's all stand up and say that some things, some ideas, are unacceptable in our society.
No,no. That's unfortunate to
No,no. That's unfortunate to hear but I'm stating that there is a vehement agenda in our institutions and the media. Society is still stuck on tribalism. Thomas Sowell said it best, multiculturalism works because we adopt new things that either supplements our lives or makes it all the enjoyable. But you have people willing to exploit groups not for some moralistic reason but because there is money and air-coverage to be made. "We're barely outta the f***ing jungle"-George Carlin
It resembles another moment
It resembles another moment in world history as well.
You realize that's just a movie, right?
Right?
this, however, is authentic
photo captured on the field of battle
Well
I don't like KKK any more than you do, but in this particular case those freaks of nature were assaulted and beaten, and even racist trash has a right to defend themselves. And, while we're on this subject, how is KKK any worse than the NBPP freaks? They hate the same, act the same, even dress the same, yet no one talks about them.
Nazifornia
Not surprising that the state that elected (twice) hitler sympathizer and member of the nazi youth party (his dad was a nazi as well). California boys Reagan and Nixon used racial animus (the southern strategy) to win election, so the KKK marching in CA and stabbing someone with a flag is not surprising. I left the hate state 10 years ago and am glad to be gone.
You might want to consider moving, then
Or maybe you don't realize that you're now living in the only state that elected the Know Nothings to power and where students at the World's Greatest University had a grand old time donning sheets?
Let's not be so quick to condemn a state of 35 million because of things that happened decades earlier.
Sorry I thought the KKK
Sorry I thought the KKK marched in CA yesterday.
And if you had left it at that ...
But you then proceeded to bring up things that happened decades ago. It would be like, oh, I don't know, bringing up the Klan at Harvard in the 1920s as somehow connected to those two guys charged with ranting about Trump as they beat that poor homeless guy outside JFK/UMass a few months ago.
Or like referencing the flag
Or like referencing the flag incident from decades ago like you did in your first comment. I was just doing the same thing you did.
Slight difference
I wasn't making a comment about the state of race relations in Massachusetts today, but referencing an iconic image that many people in this state will instantly recognize, whereas you (at least I assume it's you, dealing with name-shifting anons is so tiring sometimes) were trying to draw a direct link between politicians who aren't even alive anymore and modern California.
Schwarzenegger died?
Schwarzenegger died?
Really?
One racist thug fighting off multiple thugs racist thugs with whatever improvised weapon he had available should not be compared to the iconic image you have referenced.
You too should get a leg up
You too should get a leg up on moving Adam, since in a few months Donald Trump will win election. Happy Sunday !
He won't, but thanks for the kind thoughts
I know how sincere you are.
Wouldn't Trump haters - not
Wouldn't Trump haters - not Trump supporters - deserve the blame?
More like a do-gooder liberal
More like a do-gooder liberal. Changing hearts and minds through graffiti.
Yep
Building owner got a $1000+ graffiti removal bill, and trump got himself another pissed-off voter.
$1k to remove graffiti?
i'm in the wrong line of work
Graffiti makes you change your vote?
If, as you suggest, one instance of graffiti could change a voter's election, then...well...yikes. I guess I see why Trump is relying on the "poorly educated" for support.
actually
i don't think its fair to take a piece of art and call a group of people poorly educated for being changed by it in some fashion
irrespective of what election there is or who is in said election
take a look at guernica and tell me that some paint can't educate, sway, and convey
Actually, I don't think
it's fair to call a work of vandalism a piece of art.
you're willfully ignorant then
go read about the history of street art and its role in fomenting change or the exchange of ideas
it's also invaluable to historians
Troll
much?
I'm not a Trump supporter, but he never said he hated anyone based on their 'race' or ethnicity, or even sexual orientation; he said our borders are wide open, unsecured, and we have millions coming through whom can't be properly screened by the standards of the second decade of the 21st century, a substantial number are indeed involved with violent street gangs and drug cartel traffickers. All true. He does speak in twitter-like sound-bites, which apparently is necessary in order to communicate in 2016. He's obviously extremely successful.
The US is one of the LEAST 'hateful' places, and Americans on average among the least hateful people on Earth, and the most accepting.If you don't believe me, travel... and I'm not talking some boutique western Euro social democracy. Even in Euroland the politics and political parties tend towards extremes that have no similarity to tge US political system which filters out extremist of the left and right. Go travel or better still live in Asia, Africa, Latin America, you'll see very real, endemic parochialism, racism, homophobia in the extreme, hate that's wudely accepted among the general population and even official policy. There are reason so many want to come to and live in the US, and why we accept the most immigrants of any nation on Earth.
Ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Good one, you had me going there for awhile.
Mock all you want now , but
Mock all you want now , but what are you going to do when he gets elected ? Whether you like it or not , he has a real following of people that just might be tired of political correctness and tired of the verbal dancing with rhetoric approach to problems. Or would you just deny all these people their right to vote because it conflicts with your idea of the new world order ?
He can vote all he wants
Well, he can vote once.
I'll cross that bridge of a United States of Trump when we get to it. Up until that point, I still enjoy the rights granted me under the First Amendment.
What does that all mean? Its
What does that all mean? Its just a dance of rhetoric.
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What is so funny about that comment?
What's funny is that anon was suggesting that Trump
is not a racist, when he is obviously ten kinds of gigantic bigoted asshole, and is riding a wave of fellow feeling among similarly bigoted Americans.
umm actually trump is very welcoming and not bigoted
he even said so himself and is proving it by saying he hasn't judged white supremacists because he doesn't know them
very enlightened imo and perhaps we could learn from him
Cherry picking...
Couldn't disagree more, but if you want to take things out of context you can arrive at those conclusions....good job.
Um, no
But you can "believe" what you want, amidst massive amounts of evidence to the contrary if you like.
Thanks
Always thrilled to get your permission.
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Yeah, pointing out a couple of extremely racist quotes from the guy whose central campaign platform is literally "build a giant wall across the southern border to keep out the Mexicans, who by the way are all rapists and murderers" is definitely cherry-picking.
Glad you agree with me....
Good talk... By the way, he never said "all" Mexicans anything, but since it fits your agenda better, we'll pretend that's what was said....enjoy.
I can't decide if Trump supporters
a) are actually unfamiliar with Trump's oft-stated positions and just reflexively defend what he says without ever reading or hearing his stump speeches;
b) agree with his patent racism and assorted other bigotries and so see no problem; or
c) are dumb enough to believe that Trump's typical "I never said what I said, but people are very excited" non-denial denials succeed in fooling anybody with an IQ higher than room temperature.
It's a mystery.
Anger and ignorance gets out the vote
Its b and just a general "Im angry with how my life is and I need someone to blame." Charlie Brown used the same anger to get elected Governor here (along with his Tea Party running mate). Anger works.
Good questions...
I have come to the conclusion that people who make these comments about Trump are thoroughly delusional and incapable of taking things at face value. Words get added/subtracted at will, inferences are made based on nothing at all, things are regularly taken out of context, everything is an outrage/the sky is always falling.....anything they can come up with to support their delusional agenda. They're also big fans of the words "bigot, racist, xenophobe, etc."
You guys are a comical bunch....I'm pretty neutral on Trump overall but if Hillary is the alternative, I'm all in.
Don't hurt yourself trying to solve those mysterious questions of yours.
So, in your case, Doug1001, I'm going
with an obvious A and C, no clear determination yet on B. Thanks for clearing that up.
Anytime McSlim
Always good talking with you.
Face value
If you are taking Trump at face value, you are a total fool.
Source?
Data/sources? Love you too :)
I would say the exact opposite
A Trump detractor in Chinatown?
That wouldn't get the same response from your readers I suppose.
i view that graffiti
as more of a warning, rather than a suggestion
of course, i have no idea what the actual intent was
You are no doubt correct
In any case, I posted it because it was a bit different from your usual graffiti - which tends to avoid political statements, at least around here.