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South Boston, not the South End

As befits the new kids in town, NBC Boston this morning covered the annual L Street Brownies run into the bay like this was the biggest news to happen around here in weeks. Alas, as Shaneoinsaino captured, they made one of those mistakes that suggests they have some new recruits up from New York or Chicago or some place.

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I watched them last night

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It was like watching a car wreck in slow motion. The on air talent didn't quite seem ready for prime time, but the production was truly bad. The lead anchors would throw it over to B, only to have the camera for A come into view.

This does not bode well for the new news division. Perhaps they could cut a deal with a station that has a news department, like WHDH.

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Snarky anchors

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During a weather segment there was mention of some weather occurrence that happened "for the first time since 1979" and one of the snarky anchors commented snidely "if you were even ALIVE in 1979". Way to alienate a hole segment of your audience. I had a great time in 1979.

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3 Qs

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Do they have their social media up yet?
What's the brand name across broadcast and cable?
What are the broadcast channel and cable channels?

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NBC Boston

NBC Boston is the station name, broadcast channel 60.5, I think cable channel is 10. They have a website but I don't see any social media presence.

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Missed opportunity...

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they should have put "SoBo" to show everyone how cool and hip they are.

oh well, next time.

- The original SoBo Yuppie

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Stupid does

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Plenty of yuppies in Southie think they are living n the South End. They truly are confused between the two sections of Boston.

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We know the difference...

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...we are just trying to make (and successfully) South Boston just like the South End. You know, nice, open minded people, great restaurants, no stupid space saving rules...etc.

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Hey sweetie...

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You're several hundred dollars a square foot behind. Smiling st other guys on the street isn't going to close that gap. :)

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hey sweetie..

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they said the same thing about the south end when comparing it to back bay several years back.

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Sobo!!!

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SoBoxin, to be exact. Or South Boston, I guess.

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That said...

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That said... I'd venture that a lot of the current and newer on-air talent at all of the Boston stations are clueless regarding the difference between the South End and South Boston. They also have no clue regarding where auto accidents and fires are sometimes. In their urgency to be first on the air with limited info, they fail at getting it right.

And, lets not throw any abbreviations at them either. They won't know what DTX means.

And pronunciation? Let's not go there.

Next up? Confusing East Boston with the so-called East Roslindale foisted upon the masses by people seeking to change the Roslindale that brought them here in the first place, to something re-mastered in their own image and likeness.

After 25 years of Menino trying to get the masses to look at Boston as a whole and not xenophobic communities where venturing there might get you killed, we now break up every few blocks with their own names. Maybe they will ask for their own zip code next.

God help us that these names catch on. If people start using them when making a 911 call, lives could be at stake. No one at the turret (Police 911 call center) knows where East Roslindale is, nor West Village, Woodbourne, and a miasma of others.

However... Happy New Year, y'all! :-)

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Another Fox example

Yesterday, one of the anchors said lack of funds lead to the inability to hold First Night fireworks "on the Common", sending me to online sources to confirm that the Common fireworks were still on the program. Of course Fireworks were on the Common, and in Copley Square, it was the Harbor she that had been eliminated.

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"Up at the Commons"

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During the Copley Square coverage last night one of the NBC Boston anchors said "now let's see what's happening up at the Commons". Not only did he utter the dreaded "Commons", I'm not sure saying "up at" to refer to the location of the Common while at Copley Square is correct. I'm a lifelong Bostonian and I've certainly never heard it put that way. It sounded very jarring.

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i like hearing local news say things like

bill/erica, like its a couple you're visiting. or woe burn. besides the usual common mess ups, ofc. its a little less forgivable when its a place like woburn which is like 10 minutes from boston.

its not like the suburbs are out of range of these people. comcast sports network has an office in burlington.

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ouf

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OMG it's NEVER been

or woe burn

it's Woooooooo burn.

and Tremont is not Tree-mont.

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East Roslindale

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I'm not a fan of neologistic neighborhood names, but I can at least understand the reasoning for this one, especially since it's one of those rare ones not being pushed by salivating real-estate brokers: It refers to several smaller neighborhoods past and along that monster intersection of Cummins Highway, American Legion Highway and Canterbury Street, all of which are pretty much a no-man's land to the rest of the world that get little attention from city officials for some longstanding problems, such as, oh, drag racing on American Legion.

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Salivating Developers

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Adam - I'm just across the bridge from there and grew up in that neighborhood - or darn near it - and have lived in the area over 60 years.

At the corner of Neponset and Jewett there was a very nice 1-family on a nice chunk of land built in the 1960s or 70s. That was sold to developers and that beautiful home and its chunk of land were demolished. You can still see the former house on Google Street View at that intersection.

That lot is now the site of 2 buildings that are multi-story.

So this area is not exempt from developer interests.

We can also look at the massive project planned for the corner of Walk Hill and American Legion Highway that also falls within the "East Rossie" namesake.

We may also reflect that this area is now a part of City Council District 4 under Councilor Campbell. Some speculators seem to think that the redistricting of the city that brought this piece of land into Dist 4 was part of the cause that resulted in the downfall of Charlie Yancey.

You may want to take a slow drive through there and the side streets to count the For Sale signs.

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Oh, you're right about developer interest

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I mean, I've been to a couple of neighborhood meetings about the proposal at Walk Hill and American Legion AND the dreaded Taco Bell where the ice-cream stand is now. And isn't there another proposal for a bit further down Walk Hill (towards Mattapan, not JP)?

But "East Roslindale" was not dreamed up by some developer or real-estate broker like EaBo, SoBo and SoWa - it was residents trying to get the city to pay attention to them and their issues (it's the same folks trying to rename American Legion Highway as American Legion Parkway in an attempt to get the city to do more about traffic problems and clean up the public spaces along the road).

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adam pls

show more respect to taco bell, even in jest its not nice 2 disrespect it

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Agreed

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Agreed East Roslindale is less about rebranding the area and more about identification. What really walks my hill is the inclusion of Forest Hills in Roslindale neighborhood maps. It used to be found only in BRA planning maps, but now not only can you find in it occurring on sites like Zillow, but in City of Boston online maps as well. Forest Hills is in JP you brutes, stop the shenanigans already!

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Wait... isn't DTX just the

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Wait... isn't DTX just the newish re branding of Downtown Crossing, itself often derided as a hipster way of referring to area? Let's not jump down the throats of people who are not familiar with it. Heck if you Google DTX you come up with nothing, if you google DTX Boston you get more traction with hipster things like Clover food. I bet you could ask multiple old school Boston people and get shrugs.

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I'm one of those 'old' people

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I'm one of those 'old' people born before 1979 and I can assure you that referring to Downtown Crossing as DTX pre-dates hipsters. Hipsters do not frequent DTX regardless.

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Twitter thing?

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The local twitterati use DTX (or #dtx) because it's a lot shorter than "Downtown Crossing." Is anybody actually using it in marketing stuff down there (like that FiDI apartment building down by the Financial District)?

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To the comment above this one

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To the comment above this one, it does seem easy to figure out but honestly so is SOBO and ain't nobody with Boston roots falling for that one.

For this comment, it does make sense to use DTX online and on Twitter but I would suspect that nobody is using it to really market the area. Otherwise it would come up in Google searches. Not that Google searches are everything but it gives you a sense of what is being used and by who. For instance SOBO comes up with people complaining about other people trying to use the word. That heavily implies that SOBO is not a thing. Same thing with DTX, it comes up often in situations where shorter is better. In fact based off of the search if NBC Boston was to have a headline that said "Fire in DTX" scrolling across their screen I imagine people would have a collective freak out over it.

If we are going to hit people for not knowing the "proper" terms let's at least stick to real Boston terms like Southie, Eastie etc. Government Center is now one of those but for history sake many people would be fine with Scolly Square.

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Hypocrisy

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please stop saying Boston then and call this land Shawmut.

there is nothing more American than renaming places. to not rename something is anti-American!

- The Original SoBo Yuppie.

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I do... and my friends do in

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I do... and my friends do in conversation and as a hashtag on twitter and instagram, so I see your point. I live in Boston and am definitely not a hipster, not that I have anything against hipsters. I suppose we could be in the minority referring to
Downtown Crossing as DTX. Wouldn't really know about marketing jargon with the exception of SoBo for Southie which no self-respecting greater Boston resident uses aside from uhub's very own SoBo Yuppie of course. Using SoBo is like saying The Commons or thinking the Freedom Trail is an actual trail that dates to the Revolution... it's just wrong.

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Vernacular?

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DTX as an abbreviation may make some sense.

Boston North Station is known on train schedules as BON and South Station as BOS. Check an Amtrak schedule sometime.

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The difference there is that

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The difference there is that BON and BOS are the official station codes - just like airport codes. Every Amtrak station has one. Back Bay is BBY and Route 128 is RTE. Woburn is WOB and Haverhill is HHL. Framingham is FRA and Worcester is WOR.

DTX is an example of people shortening a long name in casual conversation, while station codes are an example of an official code referring to somewhere that no one actually uses in conversation.

At least I've never actually heard anyone say "BON" in conversation. The only station code I can think of that people actually use in conversation is NYP (New York Penn).

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a small quibble

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Menino didn't want to destroy the neighborhoods or attachment to a particular neighborhood. He just wanted the neighborhoods to be inclusive, which they did. He was forever a Hyde Park guy, even after the neighborhood went from being an Italian and Irish bastion to a place where black people are so plentiful that they subdivide like white people do and show Haitian, Nigerian, or even just plain Black Pride. No, he was a mayor of the neighborhoods, but all neighborhoods.

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I just have to look good

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I don't have to be clear.

Seriously, have you watched local news lately? There are a few really sharp reporters left, but even they're being jerked around by a bunch of 29-year-old blow-ins (to steal a Herald term) who get hired to run TV station newsrooms these days. And some of the worst "on-air talent" end up as national correspondents for the networks because they look good and they're young and willing to uproot their lives every couple of years for the sake of being on television. When one of them tweets out a photo of "pre-show prep" three hours before the newscast and it's not a shot of them at a computer but instead holding up a dress and getting made up, I'm afraid all is lost.

But they sure do look pretty/handsome up there in HD.

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I wouldn't know...

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...haven't watched TV news for a few years now.

And thankfully, nobody needs to watch that crap any longer.

Its irrelevance is increasingly obvious, and welcomed by me.

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