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The Times hears the outraged Southie howls

The Times Food Section reports it's heard South Boston residents loud and clear and has updated the online version of its profile of Barbara Lynch to say she is "a fierce daughter of Southie" rather than "a fierce Southie."

Of course, being the Times, it's hard to admit an error and the Paper of Record says Lynch herself called herself a Southie and that "it's an old-school term."

H/t Drew Starr.

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The renowned Boston chef on Tuesday denied ever using the word to describe people who live, or are from, the South Boston neighborhood.

“I didn’t use the term,” Lynch said in a statement sent by a spokeswoman to the Globe. “But if we did start calling ourselves ‘Southies,’ I’d be proud to be one.”

from the most recent article posted on Globe website.

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The other change from the original Times article, replacing "swears like a Southie".

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..is coming from the burbs and not south boston.

just like those uneducated idiots that wanted voted against having OUTVETS march in the st. patricks day parade. one of the bigots that had a vote lives in southghton.

i encourage all south boston residents to call out this fact. our neighborhoods reputation is on the line!

Go Senarots. Go Bulls.

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we actually read the NYT.

lulz

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If no one has ever heard the word used to describe a person and not just the neighborhood, how old-school is it? I challenge the gray lady to find a single reference anywhere.

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If you've never heard of it, well ... you weren't part of that exclusive Old School club, right?

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Southies, Townies, SoBo, Washington Village, Broadway Village, Cityside....who makes this shit up? We have become a "village" of idiots.

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1, nobody; 2, nobodies; 3, douchenozzles; 4-6, realtors.

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Aside: have you reviewed Publico, or do you have one coming?

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find links to my published reviews here. (Don't expect much original content there; no time to write for free these days.)

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Ok to decent food. Cool atmosphere but can get loud with the voices and music. Drinks are pathetically small - I have gotten better pours in Canada - total ripoff.

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People from Charlestown have long been, "Townies".

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Washington Village out of all those is the only one that was actually a thing..... in 1855. It was a section of Dorchester annexed by Boston, the area eventually became know as Andrew Square.

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have always been a thing--both to refer to people from Charlestown and in the more general "town vs gown" thing that exists in most college towns, including Boston. But Southie as a term for a person? Nope.

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...for Charlestown residents, yes I think we can all agree on that. I was referring specifically to Southie terms that the anon had listed (my fault actually for any confusion, I had replied to wrong post)
The lower cased "t" thing? Never heard it used growing up, only in last 10-15 years or so. In my experience its often (not always) used as a pejorative.

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... in connection with native (non-elite) Cantabrigians as opposed to interloping college students/faculty (linked to the more venerable "town vs. gown" terminology).

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Now we can get back to our nuclear war with Russia and North Korea!

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It hates to admit it's wrong and is happy to present alternative facts, at least when it comes to Boston..

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Since the entire point of this UHub article is to note that they admitted they'd got it wrong.

One imagines that like the rest of humanity they don't relish having mistakes pointed out. But regular readers also know that they list errata right in the first section of each edition. At least when it comes to blunders like this they have the excuse of being based several hundred miles away - something our own Glob can't use as an excuse re its frequent local-jargon gaffs.

(Otoh, Trump doesn't just hate to admit he's wrong - as far as I can tell, he never admits error. Like - ever. It's a disturbingly classic indicator of narcisistic personality disorder.)

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They didn't admit they got it wrong - they claimed that they were just repeating what she said about herself.

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After stating that Lynch in fact did confirm that "she's a Southie", they quietly changed the story without any notation of a correction.

Again, this isn't a big deal and I really couldn't give two shits, but someone is lying. The author said she confirmed it with Lynch, Lynch said it never happened.

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But on Twitter, where the initial criticism came from, so seems appropriate. But note that they preceded it with a note, claiming they're right and were only changing it to shut us up, basically.

Because I had some time yesterday, I rummaged around the Globe archives (free access being one of the benefits of even just a Sunday subscription) from the 1930s and 1940s. I did not check all the articles with "Southie" in them, but the 40 or so I did all used it the way we'd expect - as a nickname for South Boston (pretty much entirely in recaps of high-school football teams).

What was interesting, in a non-Southie way, were the references to "Jamaica" as a nickname for Jamaica Plain and to "the Rossies," of Roslindale High.

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What percentage of those that read the Times check Twitter for corrections to stories printed and/or posted online?

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with South Boston has not abated since the OCD buffoons saw Goodwill Hunting 20 years ago, and like the person who keeps checking to make sure the gas is turned off on the kitchen stove, it gets creepier by the day.

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Nobody has a creepy obsession with South Boston. You just think they do.

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This site and it's readers definitely has creepy obsession with Southie. Just look at all of the shooting stories that usually 0 comments. You go ahead and put Southie in the title about some stupid NYT article and you get 13 comments and counting.

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That's not creepy, that's enjoying a ludicrous story about something inane.

On Facebook, it's the reverse: When I post something about people getting shot, I typically get lots of, um "likes"; something like this story, bupkis.

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Or, people either live there, know people who live there, or visit that section of town often and have an interest in stories about it.

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It's not your fault.

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or does that count as "creepy" in your book, too? I suspect the issue is that you have some attachment to the neighborhood, and it bothers you when some of its less flattering qualities are held up to light.

Southie has a gift for drawing negative attention to itself. But sure, the story isn't the news, but the people leaking the news, and reporting the news, and reading the news, and commenting on the news! They're the creeps!

Shaddap.

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My take is.. in the kitchen you say hey Southie and she responds, or you're fired. Either way, All good.
Any publicity... :-)

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(and, she said, an old local term for the people who built it that’s rarely, if ever, used today)

Uh no she didn't say it, nor did anyone ever who has even a minuscule knowledge of the area.

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