Five shot in Jamaica Plain
By adamg - 8/15/10 - 6:52 pm
Boston Police report the five were shot around 4;30 P.M. near 3151 Washington St. Three were taken to Boston Medical Center with non-life threatening injuries; two to Brigham and Women's Hospital.
Alert New England reports police are looking for a black male, in a black shirt, who fled on a bicycle down Boylston toward Amory.
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The Globe headline goes out of its way to tell us
that the shootings were "near Roxbury". Would the paper say the same thing about a Roxbury shooting near the Jamaica Plain border, I wonder?
I don't know if the Globe has
I don't know if the Globe has changed the headline but Boston.com now reads "Five men shot on Jamaica Plain street" and the story has this "The shooting was near the intersection of Boylston and Washington streets near 3151 Washington St., close to the Roxbury border, Boston Police said in the statement"
That's accurate and totally appropriate
for people who don't know out Boston neighborhoods intimately. It happened in Jamaica Plain, very close to Roxbury. The fact that this is not on the front page, though, is indeed crazy.
5 shot in JP: near Neiman Marcus, according to maps.google
A quick check with maps.google and we learn that these shootings were a mere three blocks from Neiman Marcus's Jamaica Plain store.
Yeah, I emailed them to fix
Yeah, I emailed them to fix that. It got Copley Plaza and Street confused.
They aren't very responsive
They also have the incorrect zip code for most of that area. Google says its 02210 when it's actually 02130. I've emailed them twice about it and a month later it's still not correct.
Christ almighty
that's the second shooting in a week in that area. What the hell is going on in my neighborhood?
JP/Roxbury border
This is going off on a tangent, but since the "near Roxbury" thing and maps were mentioned I can't refrain - where the heck is the JP/Roxbury border in this area, anyway? I've been trying to figure it out for the last week and can't find any two sources that agree, nor any one that seems authoritative (for the whole city, for that matter). Some sources would have 3151 Washington as being in Roxbury, but here everyone seems to be agreeing that it's JP.
JP is 02130
Roxbury is 02119. So, Atherton st is Roxbury, but Chilcott (where the shootings were) are JP.
Traditionally, south of
Traditionally, south of Egleston sq. is Jamaica Plain - north is Roxbury. As you go across to Amory st, it gets funky.
You'd have to ask a realtor
As I've said before - I know a woman who used to live in the South End, now she lives in the Back Bay, and she didn't move.
It also depends on what happened. If there are guns involved, it's near Roxbury. If someone won the lottery, it's Jamaica Plain.
Egleston Square
And all the Amory Streets, Terraces, Roads, and Avenues would be considered the Roxbury/Jamaica Plain border.
I think Columbus Ave is
I think Columbus Ave is pretty clearly the border between JP and Roxbury.
globe priorities
Ahhh, I love how much you can tell from placement of stories.
Dude accused of murdering a white prostitute a year ago offs himself: front page news!
Unsolved shooting of 3 people, plus FIVE people shot today, nobody caught? Embarrassing to the city and police department, plus it happened in one of the non-white sections of JP, so who gives a crap about that? Bury it...
Not that embarrassing.
Ever try to solve a murder in a week? Probably pretty hard for even the smartest person in the universe, Brett the wonderful. Not that you would do anything about it anyway except complain on the internet regarding the media coverage.
And just so you know, if you really every wanted to get away with shooting at people....just drive down any random street at night and shoot out the window in a stolen car or some attached plates. No one will tell the police either way. You have an 80% chance of getting away each time you do it.
Either way no one likes to read about gang shootings or murders. People do want to read about the Craigslist killer, the Kardshians, Ronnie's arrest from the Jersey shore, and how much the Sudbury Town Manager makes.
It is embarassing...
...that 3-4 blocks from the stationhouse eight people have been shot in the course of a few days and the police have nothing to show for it?
I know you think the world's facts revlolve on what you can read
on the internet, but in the real world, you have no idea that the police do or don't know about these murders. Also like I said, driveby shootings are the most difficult crimes to solve because no one tells the police anything, and even if they did, the only information they would have woul d be a description of a stolen car/plates, and a black/hispanic kid masked or unmasked pointing a gun outside a window and shooting.
But I'd love to hear your theory on how to solve these murders.
Some late night earlier this
Some late night earlier this summer, a large sedan full of jerk teen males pulled alongside as I was walking on the sidewalk, yelling shit at me. They had the windows rolled up the majority of the way, and they were effectively opaque in that light. Above the window glass was almost entirely black inside. I couldn't even see whether they had weapons, much less give a description other than their voices. Fortunately, they weren't hardcore, and I was able to scare them off.
Person of interest
Well, since a person-of-interest in the triple shooting a few nights ago is very definitely known to the police at the moment, maybe they'll make some quick headway.
(I say 'very definitely' because after he fled the scene, he took out 11 cars in front of my house before plowing into someone's minivan and being pulled unconscious from his car. So I'm pretty sure they've got a reasonable idea of who it is.)
Pete Nice murder detective
So obviously it's a rhetorical question meant to imply that Brett has no experience with regard to solving murders and by implication Nice has much experience or knowledge thereof.
Brett really should call Pete Nice out on his BS, which is a transparent attempt to pass himself off himself as an expert, an experienced homicide detective or person with knowledge thereof, for the purpose of bolstering his criticism of Brett's argument. You see Nice wants readers to think his criticism comes from an authoritative view while in fact he has no direct experience solving murders cases within a week or otherwise.
Next Nice will say, "I never claimed I was a homicide detective" True. Also true that Nice implied he had personal experience regarding just how difficult it would be (and the Brett's a moron for not knowing what Nice knows.)
One wonders, is Nice is so insecure in his own reasoning and expression that he must bolster his arguments by exaggerating presumptive knowledge?
Only half rhetorical really.
Since someone with or without experience would have trouble closing a driveby murder case in a week. You or Brett might not know that, but a lot of people would know it, and those people wouldn't have to be experts either. Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
But I actually do have experience solving crimes and assisting in murder investigations so yea, I actually do know more than Brett on the subject. I may or may not be an expert, but I sure as hell know a lot more than Brett does about a lot of things.
But they do it on TV all the time!
It looks so easy on TV, doesn't it?
It's obvoius you know nothing
It's obvoius you know nothing about policing and life in an urban enviorment. The proximity to the police station doesn't an make investigation any easier. For the record they know who did it. Proving it and getting probable cause is a whole different ball game...
You are absolutely right.
You are absolutely right. There is rarely any outrage when kids of color shoot other kids of color...
There was a shootout in the
There was a shootout in the same area 100 years ago.
http://www.jphs.org/20thcentury/one-dead-and-eight-wounded-in-tavern-robbery.html
The site of that shooting is now the Stag Tavern.
Having lived in the area for
Having lived in the area for years, this is not a particularly scary neighborhood. It is in JP b/c that is where it is--not b/c someone wanted it to be in Roxbury or wanted it to be in JP. It is very near to Roxbury, however. Egleston Sq. is a couple of blocks up and that IS an intimidating area. It goes block by block over there--getting hotter as you approach Egleston Square.
Whit
Just sayin'
Just throwing this in for all the omgomgomgRoxburyomgomg people who read this forum -- it then gets quieter and turns back into a respectable residential area as you go the other way INTO Roxbury as well.
That being said, Egleston Square seems to have more shit going down than surrounding residential areas because it has businesses and traffic and corners to stand on and stuff. Would you expect anything different?
F@#$ing bicyclists!
That's what happens when you start giving cyclists bike lanes - they start getting cocky and shooting people. ;-)
NB: Please don't take the above comment seriously. I'm actually surprised someone hasn't already said this.