Man shot in car outside Ashmont T stop
By adamg - 8/13/11 - 11:28 pm
Somebody in the back seat of a car on Dorchester Avenue near Fuller Street was shot shortly after 11 p.m. Witnesses watched the car then speed off inbound on Dot. Ave. The victim was dropped off at Boston Medical Center about 15 minutes later.
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stupid is as stupid does
This makes sense the Carney Hospital is two blocks away and these rocket scientists drive a half hour to BMC. That being said school starts in less than a month and Ashmont has to be safe for the children
If I ever get shot
I'm telling the EMTs to take me to BMC. Because that's where people who are shot in Boston seem to go.
A lot of times the victims
A lot of times the victims don't go to the nearest hospital for a reason.
What reason is that?
If I were injured in Davis Square I'd want to be first taken down the street to Somerville Hospital, not all the way to MGH or BIDMC or the Brigham. How about you?
Because the shooters might go
Because the shooters might go to the nearest hospital to make sure their intended target is dead.
Well, for one thing...
Carney Hospital appears to have a total of eight surgeons with privileges there, and no specialists in trauma. BMC has about the best trauma surgery team in the area. If I were injured, I would rather be taken to the place I can best be treated in a hurry, even if it did take 15 minutes to get there, not spend extra time being assessed at the wrong hospital before being moved on the the right one.
BMC is one of the only safety
BMC is one of the only safety net hospitals, which means that you can't be turned away. Somerville Hospital could say no when you get there.
ED's can't refuse to treat
Hospital emergency rooms have to triage and treat or stabilize life-threatening emergencies. They can transfer a patient somewhere else at that point, but they can't turn a patient whose life is imminent danger away at the door.
Because many times, the
Because many times, the victims were also involved in criminal activity, and they don't want to be tied to a crime scene or crime. It's the same reason why when police interview them at the hospital, they lie about where the shooting took place.
As for me, If I was shot in Davis Square, and had the option to go direct to MGH, that would be better than first taking a trip to Somerville Hospital, having them stabilize me as best as they could, and then putting me in an ambulance and sending me to MGH. In a case like that, the extra five minutes to get to a trauma center would be worth it.
Not necessarily stupid. They
Not necessarily stupid.
They may not have known where Carney was but knew BMC.
Plus BMC is, unfortunately, a leader in emergency treatments, especially gunshots.
Personally, if I wasn't bleeding out, I'd prefer to take my chance on going to BMC or Mass General.
good chance they'd just stabilize you at Carney and send you there anyways.
City of Boston ambulances
City of Boston ambulances won't take you to the Carney if you have a gunshot because the carney isnt rated as a trauma center for such
Major trauma centers rock
Unless I was in imminent risk of bleeding to death, I'd go to MGH or BMC instead of the local hospital, from pretty much any where in greater Boston. There's just no substitute for a really, really good emergency medical department.
Man shot on Dorchester Ave.
HOW IGNORANT CAN A PERSON BE????? WHO ARE ANY OF YOU THAT ARE SITTING JUDGING A SITUATION AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT???? "STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES" HOW IGNORANT CAN YOU BE? DO U KNOW WHY THE YOUNG MAN GOT SHOT? DO YOU KNOW IF IT WAS MISTAKEN IDENTITY? NO!! HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS, I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.
...your Caps Lock seems to be
...your Caps Lock seems to be broken
kids are home already by 11pm
kids are home already by 11pm
As usual …
… the homeboy ambulance service continues to thrive.
Speaking as a former E.M.T., I can see why in dense urban areas, people would rather load you in the back of their car and just take you to the hospital themselves. The wait for a city ambulance can be a while, depending on how busy it is at that time of day, and frankly, if someone's going to bleed out, it's pretty obvious and I think even the most minimally knowledgeable layman knows to put pressure on a bleeding wound.
The quicker a GSW gets to the hospital, the better.
Just curious, but is this
Just curious, but is this comment based on any actual Boston Health & Hospitals (the city's EMS service) response times? They seem to get on scene pretty quick, especially in the "dense urban areas".
Even if it took an extra minute for them to arrive on scene, I'd rather receive care from paramedics on the way to the hospital, instead of the "minimally knowledgeable layman" that may be in the car (assuming, of course, that there even is an additional passenger in the vehicle).
I'm sure as a former EMT, you've seen the result of what happens when people use the logic "I can drive myself to the hospital, and I'll save a few minutes instead of waiting for an ambulance". Nine times out of ten, it delays the victim receiving advanced, potentially life saving, care.
How about the fact that someone got shot?
I'm kind of disgusted that the all the time Yummie free fire zone is set to cross Dorchester Avenue. There have been shootings east of Dorchester Avenue in the past but there seems to be a furhter concentration of shootings coming to what is a fairly stable part of Dorchester. I wonder who is responsible for these shootings?
All these pleasant logistical
All these pleasant logistical armchair musings after the fact, and so little facts from the paragraph above - for example, did the person in the back seat get shot by someone else in the same car, and did that car speed off inbound on Dot Ave, or did another car pull up and shot the person in the back seat of the first car, and did that car speed off inbound on Dot Ave? Or was the assailant on a bike, or a pedestrian? Sad that such a tragedy is reduced to an intellectual exercise over the shortest route to a hospital.