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Second South Boston woman stabbed overnight; attack might be related to murder
By adamg on Wed, 07/24/2013 - 1:28pm
UPDATE: Arrest made.
The Dorchester Reporter reports a woman was found stabbed on Gates Street in South Boston early this morning:
Suspect in custody; police probing connection to kidnap/murder. BPD sources say unnamed suspect was injured in Tuesday attack, in which he allegedly stabbed female victim in neck, chest.
Nearby residents reported numerous BPD vehicles on the street around 4 a.m.
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wtf
seriously, wtf!
Hope to God this is the same
Hope to God this is the same guy.
Interesting enough, someone
Interesting enough, someone with the same name & age as the suspect was arrested ten years ago in Newton and was charged with breaking into vehicle. His address? Hyde Park Ave. Which means he would be familar with Stoney Brook.
Those poor women... I cannot imagine how scared they were.
Thoughts & Prayers
My husband is good friends with this young woman's family. Her injuries are critical but thankfully, she'll eventually make a full recovery. Please keep her in your thoughts & prayers.
her injuries are not
her injuries are not critical. she had a collapsed lung, but most of the wounds were superficial. she is stable and awake and talking. as someone who is very close to the family (and not just a friend of a friend) your uninformed comments greatly upset me.
Sorry, but
A collapsed lung is fatal if left untreated.
I'm glad that she has been stabilized and upgraded, but any collapsed lung is critical.
It has been treated and she
It has been treated and she is expected to leave the hospital in a few days. My brother is a doctor and I'm related to the victim so don't try to tell me I don't know the situation
What is BPD doing?
Why are they police being so quiet about the details here? No reporting of the 2nd incident yet and waiting until today to release the ID and address of the first incident. Maybe if they had informed us yesterday that the first girl had been abducted in Southie, residents would have stayed home last night and the 2nd incident could have been avoided. The best citizens are informed citizens!
Probably because it's a fairly complicated case
BPD is usually pretty good about releasing basic details of murders. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest they haven't released an ID in the first case yet and have not said anything about the second one because they want to wait until they have a more settled story, not because they're not doing anything.
You have to be quiet.
The first 24 hours after a murder you don't want the public to panic and you don't want the criminal time or knowledge to cover their tracks.
Get a scanner if you really want real information, because the BPD isn't allowed to release the important stuff, especially if it's right after it happened. And you don't want to release false information either, and you need to worry about the next of kin, crime scenes, fresh tips, etc. And this is a very complicated crime scene, and you want to make sure you know where they all are before the details come out to the public.
You want to be informed about being safe? Go live in Maine, or at least don't live in Mattapan. Don't jog around the Charles at night, and don't wear clothing that would attract a rapist....or....just understand that horrible things like this are going to happen. They are rare, but they do happen.
Wrong!
Uhhhhhh.....come again??? Let's just say: she was asking for it!
You know what kind of clothing attracts rapists?
Most women are wearing jeans when they are attacked.
Seriously - the public used to pay you?
That is why I had a big "or" in that paragraph...
I don't believe Bostonians should be scared to go out at night, or not jog around the charles, or wear different clothing, or move to Maine, or not live in Mattapan....
Because...
I think this was a horrible incident and you shouldn't change your life based on it.
Right
...women wearing revealing clothing are more likely to get raped. So, some victims are asking for it then? Do you hang out in Tahrir Square a lot Pete?
Seriously,
I'll say what everyone else reading your comment is thinking: f*** you, this is what's wrong with America today
Maybe I wasn't clear....
(I'll have to put in some overtime now)
I was responding to an anon who feels the police should let them know right away about this specific incident, because if they knew that this information, they could have stayed inside. Listen to the police scanner with various departments at once (Boston B-2, C-11, Transit, State) and you would probably never leave your home, since you are basing your safety on one violent rare murder, when there are dozens of violent assaults every night in the Boston area. I would assume that same person would wear certain clothing just so they wouldn’t get raped. I fell you should chalk this incident to a random, rare attack that will probably get solved within the week.
Press conference at 4:30
DA and police commissioner.
Two Words
"concealed carry." My Girlfriend who's around the same age has her's and if i ever have a daughter she will be applying the day she turns 18.
Don't expect her to live in Boston.
Boston doesn't give out concealed carry unless you can provide a "reasonable need" such as carrying large sums of cash (and even then you'll be restricted to work hours) or proving you have a serious risk to your person. That's why I'll never move back to the city if I can help it. I don't carry often, but I sure as hell won't give up my right due to a zip code... especially since the ones where you might need it most are the ones so quick to deny it to you.
She does!
Its called using a relatives address. The same way people beat residency requirement for municipal unions! So watch out for a pretty 20 something Rozy/Rozzie Girl with an innocent smile and manicured nails. Because F with her, she'll but one between your eyes!
Another myth that
Guns will protect you:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gu...
Myth #6: Carrying a gun for self-defense makes you safer.
Fact-check: In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to stop a crime.
• In one survey, nearly 1% of Americans reported using guns to defend themselves or their property. However, a closer look at their claims found that more than 50% involved using guns in an aggressive manner, such as escalating an argument.
• A Philadelphia study found that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5 times greater if he carried a gun. His odds of being killed were 4.2 times greater.
Irrelevant
Regardless of the facts you cite, this post is pretty out of place, given the specifics of this crime. I'd venture that things could hardly have gone worse for this poor woman, and if she had been armed, even an "escalation" might have had a better result. She appears to have been a total innocent, savagely cut down after being robbed. I guess if there was a shootout, it's remotely possible that other innocents could be caught in the crossfire, but I'd still rather have given her a fighting chance of some kind with the gun.
Plenty of places to spew anti-gun stats that are way more logical than this set of circumstances; at least in this case, you're being indiscriminate and diluting the message you're trying to achieve.
Facts
Can't be anti-gun, they're just facts and statistics.
It’s up to people to make their own choices, but the statistics are clear that gun ownership actually makes you more likely to be involved in an assault or accidental death. Period. Those facts need to be taken into consideration when you weight the responsibility of gun ownership, and why plenty of people actually get rid their weapons when they have children. Since Sandy Hook a child has been accidentally shot or killed in the US just about every single day, many times because of improper storage of a parents weapon.
Now personally, I’d like more studies to see if there’s any correlation there on types of gun owners. Maybe it’s just a statistical fluke, or a need for more education, training, and time at the range. There probably a way to make gun ownership safer, without infringing on rights. But we can’t have that because it’s against the law for federal money to be put towards that research, or for the any agency to do those studies.
Anyways. My 2 cents.
Placement of Facts
Let's not be deliberately obtuse: facts and statistics may not be anti-gun, but the placement of them in this context sure is.
If a woman dies because of a botched abortion and someone chooses that as an opportunity to cite statistics about abortion-related deaths, those stats themselves may not have an agenda but the poster likely does.
Fine, but again, not in this case. Folks should be discerning about these kinds of citations because it's like crying wolf in situations like this one. A story about a boy shooting himself after gaining access to his dad's gun in a closet? Yes, great spot to cite the perils of gun ownership. This event, where any loved one of the woman surely would rather she be armed than befall a stabbing death? Poor placement of stats.
Correction
I don't want to undermine my own point here, but it occurred to me there's a better analogy than the one I used above, re. irrelevance of facts for a given set of circumstances:
Woman has a life-threatening, pregnancy-related condition X. Woman chooses not to abort. Woman and child die. Universal Hub readers, understandably upset, post that she should have aborted, and that they will exhort sisters, girlfriends, daughters, etc. to abort if they learn they have condition X while pregnant. Anti-abortion poster cites statistics about the danger of abortions, myth-busting, and "reminding" readers that women can die from abortions.
The point is that in my construct, just as in the South Boston murder, the facts/stats might be right, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway in this instance. The woman would be no less dead.
Could stats have been cited as a teaching moment, as in, "Hey, let's not get carried away here, and encourage people to [abort][concealed carry]?" Maybe, but my money is on general preachiness, in which case it was a fail.
keep digging
Authorities in Beijing are awaiting your imminent arrival.
Good One
Very trenchant and fact based.
#IknowyouarebutwhatamI
It still amazes me that with
It still amazes me that with the freedom of speech, that common courtesy is not considered. This victim is a relative of mine and is a modest, decent and respectful person. The criticisms should be directed to the criminal here, not the victim. Have some respect please.
Word of advice
Shut down the phone / tablet / laptop and walk away. Focus on your family / friends. The internet is a torrent of human nature, and some of it will just upset. Don't bother with it.
Sorry for your loss.