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Afternoon shootings in Roxbury send two to the hospital
By adamg on Sat, 09/14/2013 - 11:29pm
Boston Police report finding a man and a woman with gunshot wounds on Elm Hill Avenue near Homestead around 1 p.m. - about 12 hours after police found two guns in the same area.
Both victims were taken to Boston Medical Center and are expected to survive.
That makes a total of seven people shot in Boston today.
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People would be up in arms if
People would be up in arms if it were Manchester-by-the-Sea or Assonet!
People are up in arms
That's the problem.
People where?
In Manchester by the Sea, or Assonet. How about the people IN Roxbury, Dorchester, and now apparently Roslindale? Honestly--aside from some general hand-wringing, what us anyone outside of these communities supposed to do? Yes, we should step up policing; yes, we should have better schools, more jobs, etc etc but there's a level of complacency --maybe resignation is a better word--from within the communities where these things are happening that is astonishing. If a poisonous culture is literally destroying your community--whether you're talking about the Bulger fiefdom or the Archdale project, what do you do about it?
Weather
I thought the cooler weather brought about less violence, no?
Sad!!!
Too bad this situation is only going to get four sentences of recognition. Dorchester, Mattapan, and Roxbury are spiraling out of control and noone has a solution. But when a white woman is killed in South Boston everyone is up in arms. Meetings are being held, the Police Commissioner is holding press conferences, their placing detectives on leave for failing to properly do their job, and there are neighbors scared to live in the area so the police assign more detectives for the South Boston residents to feel more protected. Yet, in these other parts of Boston, nothing is happening.No press conferences, no added police in these areas. Nothing is being done. So tired of this kind of discrimination
Stop whining
Everyone IS up in arms when someone gets killed in a section of Dot, Roxbury or Mattapan where people actually cooperate with police and help them with their investigation. Remember the shooting at Savin Hill t stop a couple years ago? Meetings, stepped-up police effort, perp apprehended few days later, problem properties task force, all the good stuff - in Dorchester, that scary place W suburb clowns love to cry about but would not set their foot in without a police escort. You see, you need witnesses to testify in order to lock up a criminal, and "I ain't seen nuttin" doesn't help that much. Fix that, and you'll start seeing a similar police response in other sections of Dot. Or keep throwing bottles at passing cruisers and calling all cops racist pigs, and you'll always be just another statistic and a line or two on the tenth page of Boston Globe.
About these "W-town clowns"...
Something that I've noticed with increasing frequency on threads such as this one are comments calling out "W suburb clowns" or "Cambridge/Brookline bleeding hearts" as people who are supposedly "wringing their hands" or "crying" about the senseless violence happening in town.
The following is a serious question.
What leads you or anyone else to believe that is the case? What leads you to believe that people in the W-towns, Brookline or Cambridge are doing any more hand-wringing than the people in, say, Natick, Stoughton, Weymouth, Arlington or Saugus are doing?
Somehow I don't think that you mean to suggest that the people in the W-towns, Brookline and Cambridge are better than the people elsewhere, but as I don't hear or see anything resembling widespread concern anywhere outside of the city about the fact that several Boston neighborhoods (or parts thereof) resemble war zones, I would like to know precisely why the W-towns, Brookline and Cambridge are singled out for such praise.
W-town clowns
Calling for higher taxes on middle class to help the poor when their (old) money is stashed away in tax-free financial instruments. Demanding more public housing from the comfort of their mansions, knowing perfectly well section 8 housing is more likely to appear on Jupiter than in their rich lily-white suburbs. Bashing charter schools and praising BPS, yet cringing every time they see METCO kids getting off the bus and/or sending their kids to uber-expensive private schools. Praising soft-on-crime policies, yet not having to deal with the outcome since their rich suburbs see less crime on a particularly bad year than inner-city neighborhoods ruined by the said policies see on a good day. Mitt Romney/Ted Kennedy hypocrite style - different color, same sh*t.
Clowing around
Even if we accept all of those assertions as true (and I, for one, don't) you still haven't answered the question.
Why do you believe that the people in the W-towns, etc. are any more guilty of what you allege than those in Natick, Saugus, etc.? For example, why do you imagine that there are fewer people in Brookline (which is closer to all of the nonsense going on than most other neighborhoods of Boston, let alone suburban towns) saying "lock 'em all up and throw away the key" than there are in Natick, which is 20 miles away from the action?
Also, considering that Brookline takes the greatest number of METCO students of any district except Newton, yet still is going to have to undertake a massive expansion of its schools to accommodate all of the children entering the school system over the next 5 years, where is there any support for this notion that huge numbers of Brookline kids are going to private schools or that parents are cringing when they see METCO kids?
Is there any rational basis for what you are saying (notice that I'm not even asking for evidence - I'm confident that there is none of that), or are you just ranting against people who you perceive to be well-off?
when you care
Then do something besides complain about it. Help the police catch the shooter. When you start caring enough to do that, that's when the police, the press etc start caring.
Why should everybody else care when the people who live there don't care?
The people who live in the area DO care, EM Painter.
Unfortunately, the residents in the above-mentioned areas (i. e. Roxbury, Mattapan, North Dorchester) are totally at their wits' end because the crime rate is so out of hand in those areas and they don't know what the hell to do, or where to turn. They don't like having to live with that kind of danger on a daily, ongoing basis, either.
Nope
Neighborhoods populated with people who DO care tend to be low-crime areas even in Roxbury, Dorchester and Mattapan - residents form neighborhood watch groups, cooperate with police, report suspicious activity, etc. There wouldn't be much drug dealing going on when 10 people call the cops every time there's a drug dealer seen peddling his wares on the corner.
Use your head.
If any of these people had been kidnapped, robbed and murdered by a complete stranger, then you might have a point. We don't know yet the story behind these shootings but at this point comparing them with Amy Lord is just foolish--apples and oranges. If Amy Lord had been a 47-year-old drug dealer killed in a deal gone sour or a streetwalker offed by a john, do you think we'd be hearing about it? Do you think women in Southie would've been taking self defense classes?
Roxbury shootings
We really can't blame the police wit is the judges and a poorly run prison system that does not reform the people they let go. Most of them don't know much more about their block and they never will...