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Combat Zone, the

The city's "adult entertainment district," located between Downtown Crossing and Chinatown, more or less. The porno places are now almost entirely gone, and the "combat" these days are mostly between developers and Chinatown residents who don't want to be displaced by expensive condos planned for the area's rundown buildings.
Chris Gassler

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By Greg (not verified) | Tue, 07/13/2004 - 11:00pm

You really should update the desription. The Combat zone doesn't really exist anymore as it has been cleaned up quite a bit over the years.

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By Darius (not verified) | Sat, 08/21/2004 - 6:45pm

Being an ol' Tennessee boy, after my discharge from four years as a USAF medical corpsman, I returned home to Chattanooga in late '70 to discover, "you can't go home." After a year's floundering about, I took a job as a traveling children's promotional photographer. I immediately picked up where I'd left off, partying my brains out, all over the nation. Living out of a suitcase, traveling on the road is an education. By the time I hit Boston, (New England) area, summer of '72, I was indoctrinated to the travel'in life. The old "combat zone", re:Washington St., was an education. Actually sweet youthful lustfulness! I was shacking up with a stripper tagged, "Tia Del Rio", traveled up from the Baltimore Burlesque at a hotel that skirted the commons, frequented by these ladies. Tia was a "high yellow" hispanic/negro mix, and the star of the show at the "Two O'Clock Club!" After, she returned to Baltimore, I had a escapade with her English friend for a couple of weeks. We'd cruise down to the Four Seasons, Chinese resturant after the clubs closing. Fun, sweet memories of a misspent youth!! In those days, as long as you knew the score, minded your own business, and watched your ass, you were in no danger. Someday I'll revisit the town,.. never forgotten it.

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By Jay Barry (not verified) | Mon, 08/23/2004 - 7:16pm

In the late '60s, a nightclub musician in the Boston area was said to have earned his wings when he had played a gig at least once, in each of these four Washington Street venues: The Downtown, Jerome's, The Intermission, and The Pink Pussycat. They are probably all gone now, as I have heard that the Combat Zone itself no longer exists. And Yes, I earned my wings.

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By Paul (not verified) | Tue, 08/24/2004 - 3:56pm

The real estate folks have now renamed it "The Ladder District" after the shape of the streets (a bunch of one-block streets between longer Washington and Tremont).

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By Angel (not verified) | Mon, 10/24/2005 - 8:32pm

Boston's old combat zone evokes many a fond memory of a place when one could get lost in the seediness of the "Red Light District". Unlike the fictional" Cheers" most of the bars along lower Washington St were places where nobody wanted to know your name.If you bought a washed-out stripper an eight dollar glass of tea, and expected to find romance you just joined the suckers club.Any attempt at a cheap feel would result in a quick trip out the door,with or without your wallet. The "King of Pizza" at the corner of Washington and Boylston was my idea of haute cuisine. I spent some of my finest hours at the Pilgrim Theater sneaking in cans of Schlitz and drooling over the strippers when the act took to the blanket for the last performance of the set. Lower Washington Street you may be gone but you will never be forgotten.

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By Mark Martel (not verified) | Fri, 03/17/2006 - 1:34am

now the Combat Zone is the place you go to buy a gun, wait a minute that part never really changed.

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By panama red (not verified) | Sat, 05/06/2006 - 4:40pm

I was a headliner stripper at the 2'oclock club in the early 70's I worked for the Venus brothers, also the Pilgrim Theatre and Jeromes The Intermission and the Pink Pussycat. I have some amazing stories that many people don't know about those Venus brothers, I was pretty well known. I had long red hair I was 18yrs old I was also known as Panama Red. I dated some of the Allman Brothers band, Cat Stevens, Mick Fleetwood just to name a few who came to my shows when they were in town. I would love to hear from someone that was around then. I am now 53yrs old, I am a student finishing my degree in Behavorial Science.I had some loyal fans...Love, Panama

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By Gary (not verified) | Fri, 06/02/2006 - 8:25am

During the early 1970,s, myself and a friend used to travel from Lewiston, Maine to hang out in the combat zone. Many dancers from Boston used to dance at the Hotel Holly in Lewiston. "BE JOLLY AT THE HOLLY" I look back nostalgically at these years. Panama, did you ever dance at the Holly and whatever happened to Lady Tangerine??

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By Michelle (not verified) | Wed, 10/11/2006 - 8:51pm

this is a note to Panama Red: I was a waitress at the Two O'clock, 1969-1973. (It was still the Downtown Lounge, not a strip club, in the first part of those years.) (I actually was a go-go dancer for a couple of months at the old Garden of Eden across the street, early summer 1969, the place downstairs, next to the King of Pizza; they had go-go dancers between strip shows -- that was before the stripping was all nude, and then they changed the club?s name. By then I was waitressing at the Downtown.) I do remember you, in the roster of strippers at the club, though we didn't know each other, rarely spoke. (It surprises me now, in recollection, that we never did get high together ? ah! in the Ladies Room, that safe repose. So many of us ? waitresses and strippers ? got high there every night; it transformed the nature of the job.) Do you remember some of the other strippers -- Sequin, Kelly Collins, Lee Miles? The manager Larry? I?d love to hear your stories about the Venus brothers. An image of Teddy is crystal clear in my mind, to this day ... You probably don't remember the waitresses; we were our own little group -- working with the strippers, of course, to help you sell champagne, so you'd get commission and we'd get tips ... That time in my life still remains pivotal for me, in a non-linear-time sort of way -- though I long left it far behind and have moved through many other territories since ... I'm 55 now, work at a center for homeless women, on the West Coast ... Congratulations on getting your degree! ... I'd love to be in touch to talk more ... You can write me initially at: . I use that address only occasionally, can cancel it if I start to get unwanted mail ... To anyone else reading this who remembers the CZ in those days: interesting, isn?t it, to think about how many different worlds there were, there, how many different realities, depending who we were, what part we played ...

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By John D. Jr. (not verified) | Thu, 10/12/2006 - 2:34pm

My dad was the manager of the Intermission Lounge forever. It's nice to see others appreciative when reflecting back on the good ol'days.Despite all the stuff you've read and heard - during it's heyday, the Combat Zone was no more dangerous than it is now. When it really became dangerous is in the late 80s when the city pushed the busineeses out. Then the city was left with blocks of boarded up desolated blocks of nothing. This is when the crackheads and prositiutes became a mjor problem. The city could have doen a lot more to patrol it and clean it up, but they didn't. Blame the city.The people that worked in and owned the strip joints, bars, book stores, and other places were mostly all hard working individuals trying to make a living. We paid our taxes and contributed to society. Employees of the adult entertainment industry were always looked at oddly or with many preconceptions.This puritanical backwards city of Boston will always be a minor league city. No adult entertainment, no convention business = fact.

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By Julie (not verified) | Sat, 10/14/2006 - 5:33pm

I began dancing at the Mousetrap & then for some reason went to the Intermission but ended back at the Mousetrap for 4 years. That chapter of my life began around 1974. I was 21 - I had a few different names - Hedy Jo Star called me Foxy & that stayed for awhile until I changed it to Julie Jordan was also known as Miss Bicentennial- I wish I had kept a diary back then - still I have quite a story to tell. I was a nice Jewish girl from Brookline. Daughter of a deli owner. Just trying everything. Prior to becoming a dancer I was actually living on the top of a mountain in Colorado in an Indian tipi I had built with my boyfiend. In fact I hadn't shaved my legs in a year when I began dancing. I actually went on stage my 1st night unshaven because I figured I'd never take the dancing job - Sharky was the manager - I was close friends with Onyx (transvestite), Anne Marie, Vanessa & others. I still own my Hedy Jo Starr Bicentennial costume!I've lived many chapters since then. I am 53 years old & would love to connect with anyone from those days!

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By Bill (not verified) | Tue, 10/24/2006 - 12:19pm

I am a novelist in Boston. I have published one novel. A second will be published in January 2007. (There is some information about me at www.williamlanday.com.)I am now working on a novel set in the Combat Zone in the early 1970s, and I would like to learn as much as humanly possible about the Zone.I would like to speak with anyone who worked or hung around in the Combat Zone in the 1960s or 1970s, or who knows about the Zone for any other reason (cops, visitors, etc.).If you have stories to tell about the old Combat Zone, please e-mail me at -- I would love to hear from anyone who can educate me about this lost place. No detail is too small to be of interest to me.Thank you.Bill

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By Bob Cabral (not verified) | Thu, 02/22/2007 - 1:13pm

I'm writing a crime novel that takes place primarily in Providence, ca. 1972. One scene, though, takes place in Boston at the Pink Pussy Cat. I need a description of what the exterior and the interior of the building looked like around 1972. Also, the name of a few other places nearby. Thanks.

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By Jon Hammond (not verified) | Fri, 05/04/2007 - 9:09am

I was one of the house organists 7 nights-a-week (and 7 days-a-week) starting out at the Picadilly with drummer Lenny Nelson and next worked at the World Famous 2 O'Clock for the Venus Brothers. "Andy" (day-time organ player) had me sit in and then split and didn't come back. That's how I came to inherit that gig. Eventually I played at The Mouse Trap and Teddy Bear and was the last organist at The Caribbe on Tremont before they switched to jukebox only.After-hours I often went to Devon's restaurant on Washington (can't remember the name of it at the moment)..The Villa that was it! which was like a Fellini Movie every night.A Big Hello to all my old Combat Zone colleagues and friends from the old Living Room, Intermission, Jerome's, 2 O'Clock etc.!The last of an Era. I'm surprised there is not more written about the Combat Zone scene. I had one of those giant bottles of horrible Champagne for a hat-stand for years that somebody probably paid about 400 bucks for.It was another world and it's finished now but I can say that it was for me a good place to get my music chops real strong and play danceable music which serves me well today.If the Strippers didn't like a tune they would let you know about it right away, usually by coming over to the organ and saying "I can't dance to that!" I saw everything from behind the organ and nothing at all.Now I am a radio broadcaster with my own daily AM radio show during drive-time in Northern California.A lot of women took their clothes off to my music, some for their first time and others were veteran Strippers. When the shows were smokin' and we had a good night there was a lot of inter-action between the the Musicians and Dancers/Strippers. Definitely an "Art Form" and atmosphere that doesn't exist anywhere anymore.Eventually the club owners decided to fire the musicians, even though there were usually only 2 onstage (Hammond Organ and Drums...at the 2 O'Clock we had Tenor Sax and sometimes Trumpet nights)...we were replaced by Jukeboxes and then that was the beginning of the end.The shows were never the same without the live musicians. Those of you who worked in the Zone know what I'm talking about I'm sure. We all used to come down there and have a drink or two after they let us go for a while but the dancers pretty much just walked after the bands exited. Mixing was a big part of the scene there. Some of my friends who were the best mixers could drink 50 or 60 drinks a night.I'm sure Teddy of the Venus Brothers and Arthur and all those guys are long dead and gone for a long time, it was over 30 years ago. I'll say one thing for those old guys, they always paid me on Friday and I never had to count the dough.Jon Hammond"The FINGERS...are the SINGERS!"

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By Princess Cheyenne (not verified) | Wed, 08/22/2007 - 10:14am

It was a more innocent time. I learned a lot of good things and met many good people. Uh Panama Red... I cannot recall Cat Stevens ever mentioning you!

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By joe b (not verified) | Tue, 09/18/2007 - 7:00pm

In the early seventies I worked in or around the zone. For a summer I had the part time job of running the light on/in the main large room.. Later I worked the overhead light in the 2nd room. The over light was set up just off the upstairs dressing room.The girls would ask for a certain color gel blue red or pink tones. It was all important to some. There was one older stripper who insisted on blue which made her look like an old Marlene Detrich. She seemed to live in that character.I was working a batch of shit jobs to make ends meet..most of the girls were nice some were headcase cokeheads with baggageThere was a MC a little Vegas type.He called the houseband the firehouse five minus two or something similar to that..He would announce the girls as the came and went off stage. One I remember was"Direct from Revere Please Welcome Miss Sandy Beach"...Some head liners were Melaine..Jeri Deen.I think most of those there were just passing through.

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By Chicago John (not verified) | Sat, 10/20/2007 - 1:52pm

Wow! I just found this site and boy did it bring back memories. I traveled with a stripper whose agent, Sol Goodman, out of baltimore booked her in a different city every week. When we got to Boston I told her Since I couldn't get a job when we were in a different city every week we were going to stay in Boston.Her first gig in the combat Zone was at the Pilgrim theater. I got a job tending bar at Jerome's. After working there for a few weeks I told the owner, Louie Venus, that I needed to go back to Chicago for a week. Before returning to Boston I called Louie to confirm that I still had my job. He said "OK 'Chicago John'" and the nickname "Chicago John" stayed with me for the next several years that I worked in the Combat Zone. Most of the people in the Zone never knew my full name. I was just known as Chicago John.In addition to Jerome's, I also worked at the 2:00 Oclock club, the Mouse Trap and the Silver Dollar. My girfirnd, at that time, worked in all of the clubs I did in addition to working the Intermission, the Teddy Bear, and the Picadilly. The dancers changed clubs more often then then the bartenders.I have many fond memories of my time working in the Combat Zone. For the most part, the people I worked with were good people contrary to the impression many people had of us."Chicago John"john@johnfinktravel.com

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By george (not verified) | Fri, 11/16/2007 - 12:32am

circi 1970-1972I was a prepie stuck in mass. and would take the bus on saturday mornings going to Boston. I remember walking through the combat zone early on those mornings.Being fron Nebraska that area had a strange,dangerous,but fascinating feel to it.I would walk it for hours and could not fully participate as I was 15 years old.I remember the hookers, pimps,and drug dealers. Some people were spacey and some definitely had a city type rudeness that I never forgot. But thats what probably gave that district its name.Its nice and interesting reading about the dancers stories.I wish I could have been older to meet you. Thanks for the memories.

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By Mick (not verified) | Wed, 12/19/2007 - 1:34pm

I used to visit the Combat Zone frequently in the early '70s and I remember Panama Red, Princess Cheyenne, and many other girls well, though most of their names escape me now. Many of them were sultry and beautiful!I even remember seeing Congressman Wilbur C. Mills being fondled by the Argentine Firecracker at the Pilgrim Theater... Those were really the days!

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By richard kennedy (not verified) | Mon, 01/07/2008 - 1:45pm

In late 1963, at 17, I began working at Jerold's Mens Shop on Washington St. across the street from Raymond's Dept Store and a couple of blocks from the Intermission, Jerome's etc. -the gateway to the Combat Zone - where I remained until 1967.During that time I became one with the area - it was my home - it's inhabitants were my customers, my friends, my confidants. The transvestites, the hookers, the musicians, the cops, the business owners, the strippers.Jerold's was where the musicians came to buy there "band uniforms" brocade bolero jackets, shiny high waisted pants and purple ruffled shirts and I was the guy they came to - being a musician myself i "understood" their stage requirements and outfitted some of the best - Roger Pace and the Pacemakers, The Hot Tamales, Dario and the Rainbows Steve Colt and the 45s, the 7 Epics...the list goes on.To this day the greatest entertainer I have ever seen was Roger Pace and the best band I ever heard was the Hot Tamales - the Tamales were an all black group that played primarily at Izzy Ort's Golden Nugget - a place where a shooting was just part of the evenings festivities.I spent many an evening there listening to the Tamales do Impressions songs and they all harmonized and played their instruments Butch on bass, Frenchie on Trumpet - These men were all pimps as well...that's they way it was - good guys with good women who were all forced to live that way - Butch's wife was a hooker - these were good people who society had forced into that way of making a living - I saw it first hand.For instance-Jerold's had just received a shipment of short sleeved matching bright electric blue jackets and pants that I knew would be perfect for the Tamales - I called Butch, who was their leader, and asked him to come in to see them, he did and loved them. Unfortunately he told me that colored (that's what they were then) groups were not allowed to wear short sleeves in the clubs (and that was at the Nugget) as it showed to much of their black skin. It opened up the beginning of my understanding of their racial plight.Several years later, when I had moved to New York,I saw the Tamales perform in Harlem at Small's Paradise. Does anyone know what happened to them?Roger Pace- the white James Brown- packed the Intermission every night for years - leaving occasionally to go back to play a club in Baltimore. Roger who stormed the stage like an atom bomb and continued exploding for 40 minutes 5 or six times a night. I Feel Good - Jesus we all felt good when Roger was on stage with his skeleton of a bass player Jimmy Gregory, his great guitar player Bobby Simone, the soulful tenor of Arnie Barry and the fattest fat back you ever heard played by Denny Ward - what a group - stepping and dancing as Roger spun and split grabbed his sax and played along sat in on drums, danced though the Intermission out the door the band following him as the continued singing and playing crossing Washington st storming Jeromes or one of other other clubs and coming back to the Intermission with new customers following and dancing - what a time!I fell in love with an Intermission waitress named Mary Scott - we had some time together- wow.

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By JMM (not verified) | Wed, 01/09/2008 - 11:17pm

I remember the Combat Zone in the early 80s when I was 16-17. I was from a small town in southeastern Mass., and had never been to the zone, but I had heard stories from classmates about their adventures there.My first trip there was with 2 friends, and we were in search of fake IDs. We got scammed by a guy we met in front of an x-rated bookstore; he asked us if we needed IDs (I guess he could smell us a mile away). He walked us around the neon-lit streets and explained in detail how we'd get our "real registry" IDs (he had a friend who worked for the registry, so we'd get the real IDs) He brought us into the back room of the Naked I through a side door, asked for $20 from each of us small-town boys, and said he'd be back in a minute to take us to get our pictures taken. Of course he never returned - ah, valuable life lessons learned in the zone.We continued strolling the zone admiring the seediness of the streets, the porn shops and the prostitutes, undaunted by the scam. I felt like a "made" city-guy after that evening.We were lucky enough to get into the Naked I about 2 months later without IDs via a $20 bribe to the doorman, this was my first time in a strip club, and I remember the absolutely beautiful dancer, I think it was Princess Cheyenne (I remember the Indian headdress, and long legs), what a great dancer.I lived and worked in Manhattan from 88-95 while working for Bear Stearns, and I've travelled a lot to many cities over the past 20 years, and have never seen a place with the same character and unique characteristics as the Combat Zone. I work for a big bank now in Boston, and live in Quincy, and sometimes I'll stroll through the area of the "old zone" and remember the "good 'ol days" with my friends in the early 80's. Nothing is left at all of old zone, nothing.Theree is something about the Combat Zone that can never be captured again and is lost forever.

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By Tina Max (not verified) | Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:51am

Hi, I too used to frequent the Combat Zone in the early 1960's as a college student. I didn't get into the drugs or strip joint scene but did visit Jerome's, I think before they had strippers there? I remember a group/band on stage there who were attired in combat fatigues as a joke, you know, the combat zone. The area was fascinating, and I actually met some interesting folks there. I am trying to capture the area there from the 60's. Does anyone remember an arcade across the street from Jerome's? The Intermission and the King of Pizza were around and there was a smaller pizza joint next to Jerome's. That is about what I remember but am trying to remember in greater detail.Tina

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By panama red (not verified) | Mon, 04/21/2008 - 12:33am

Wow michelle you remember me on the roster. Kelly , AKA Machine Gun Kelly Collins was a high school buddy I got into the biz... she is very well off and married to an attorney,I have some interesting stories when Iwould hang out with the Venus brothers, Teddy fat brother I forgot name did some pretty slippery stuff.Hedi Jo Starr. Paul JOrdan was my agent.I was in the show Bring back Burlesque, with Silky Silvers my name was Deirdre St. George and I was offered to dance in a show called Good News with Alice Faye and Stubby Kaye, had nice write up in the Globe about my dancing and apparently there is a book about the combat zone of which I am mentioned.Love Panama

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By jeff (not verified) | Sat, 04/26/2008 - 6:23pm

Aw...the ZONE.I have many fine memories.The one woman that I would love to see again is an evening lady who went by the name of Rice.A very friendly and mellow Japanese woman.

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By Gary (not verified) | Fri, 05/09/2008 - 8:46am

Just checked out this blog for the first time in a while. I am still wondering if anybody knows what became of "Lady Tangerine". She used to dance at the Piccadilly Lounge among other places. She used to dance at the Hotel Holly in Lewiston,Maine also. Several years ago the building that housed the Holly blew up in a natural gas explosion. I have a copy of Roswell Angier's "Conversations in The Combat Zone" with photos of Panama Red. Those were the days of many many fond memories.

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By Framord (not verified) | Tue, 05/20/2008 - 5:54pm

PEOPLE I REMEMBER FROM THE ZONE!1) The guy that kept tabs on the cash at the Naked Eye. (He looked like the actor Richard Deacon from Dick Van Dyke)2) The waitress at the Naked Eye with big black eighties hair that looked like Suzanna Hoffs)3) Princess Cheyanne (of course)4)The drunk Gino who was on the street every night and looked like he just got punched in the face.5)The Dancer from the Naked Eye named Dorrie Dixie.The Zone!

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By Charles (not verified) | Fri, 05/23/2008 - 8:47pm

The Combat Zone's prime was a short one. It came into its own after colorful Scollay Square was raised to make room for the truly hideous Government Center — which, sadly, is still standing to uglify Boston. And The Zone was mostly gone in a decade and a half if that.But I loved it. The pizza place on the corner of Boylston and Washington and several smaller store front stands provided cheap, tasty food to make up for the overpriced drinks in the joints.Roger Pace and his band played the Intermission Lounge, and they were really great. He was around as recently as the early nineties playing alto with a band called The Fantastic Cutters, but sadly, I read that he’s since passed away. I had also read that he was always in hot water with the Boston wiseguys during the sixties. Back then he had teased platinum hair and looked like Wayne Cochrane in need of a good meal. What a showman, though.And if you took the old elevated Orange Line a stop or two south, there were Basin Street South and Louie’s Showcase Lounge where some big name r&b stars occasionally came.By the time my daughter went to college in Boston, none of the places where I hung out at college age were still around. In fact, entire neighborhoods were gone. I found it sad.

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By City Boy (not verified) | Sat, 05/24/2008 - 8:02am

I remember strolling the stip in the zone in the early 80's. I recall going to one of the peep shows with a very cheap friend of mine. As it worked you'd put your coin in and the window covering would lift up. There was a small hole located between booths and the dancer would ask you to roll up your bills and slide it through the hole so she'd keep dancing. My friend would keep putting coins in and not bills. Everytime the window would open the dancer would be against the glass giving him the finger. Finally the manager would chase us out. Very funny times. Used drive by LaGrange Street picking up hookers. Great times.

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Sat, 06/14/2008 - 10:47pm

Hi All,Just happened upon this blog.. late one evening, a while back . I am going to respond to most people here. Seems I had worked with at one time.. or met most of you . I worked the zone from 1975-1990.Hi Gary I borrowed the book from the library , just last week. "A kind of life". Just wished it had been a lot more consisive. Good book ,but.. not enough history.Saw several people in there that I had known . Beautiful pic's of Panama Red. I also read Naked is the best disguise. That was some many years ago the author was a good friend of my late cousins wife, of which.. Steven Spielburgh's dreamworks production has aquired sole rights to the script about his lifes story which will be adapted from the book, "State Boy's Rebellion".I have so much to write about my experience with the zone. I am just testing the waters for now. I'll be back with more tales from the city. Life there all evolved around nine degrees of seperation!High energy and good old fashioned raw talent.Thanks for reading . Tangerine

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By Gary (not verified) | Tue, 06/24/2008 - 9:25am

The Tangerine I knew was a tall leggy black girl from Jamaica and was dancing prior to 1975. Most of the dancers who worked at the Hotel Holly in Lewiston, Maine came up from Boston. Are there any of you still out there?

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Sun, 06/29/2008 - 11:02pm

Hi Gary,No I am not that Tangerine.But.. I did work off and on with her for years. By the time I entered into the bussiness, The original Tangerine had retired from dancing. But we did work together she was working the floor as a mixer at the time.I remember when I first met her was at the Piccadily lounge around 1978. the manager there at the time was Stanly. He was a very big gentle guy.And was one of the nicest Manager's around.He died of an apparent heart attack as his house was invaded by would be robbers,sometime in the late 1980's or early 90's. I recall the first time I met Tangerine she came up to me and said in her pretty Jamaican accent ..you stole my name. I told her ok I'll change it to Red Fox. She replied no you keep the name Tangerine it goes well with your color hair.(we got along ok) She was a mysterious woman of sorts very pretty and always conducted herself like a lady. I remember her always dressed in true carribean style. Maybe you knew my cousin Ana Gail? She had been working the zone for some years prior to me.I started my dancing career on the North Shore. The Surf, Jaws, Squires, Golden Banana, Checkmate lounge.I danced lots of various clubs in between , I traveled to Montreal and Quebec,I worked both sides of Niagra Falls.and Toronto also various suburbs of New york as well.I vowed never to work the zone it scared me at the time, My first gig there was at the Pussy cat lounge late 1975 (which some years later the Piccadilly club relocated thier bussiness to) The place scared me, my first night there. By the second night.. just as I was coming through the door for my second evening shift , I looked up on the stage and there was my cousin Ana Gail .I yelled out to her above the loud music,Heh cous!Now! I had some back up.I remember the manager at the time, Carol was'nt too pleased with me as I sat frozen with one customer all night as I nursed one drink. I was so green when it came to mixing, (Short term for hustling drinks)I did put on a good show and the audience really liked me. All I wanted to do was dance, which was a passion of mine. Having said all that.. getting back to the manager Carol . She yelled at me at the end of the night and said what do you think your going to do ? Dance your way to the Waldorf Historia? I replied, YES! five years later, I was partying with the likes of Cher, Michelle Lee.Leslie Uggums,Robert Preston, I shared a dinner table with, Tony Randelle, and Jason Robarbs. Most of these stars are deceased.The late Ann White,& Tommy Tune. I had my picture taken with them all. This was at a Tony awards party at the Waldorf Historia. There were various others, too many to mention.(That was some pretty clever dancing!)I had met a handful of famous people working the zone as well, notorious and otherwise. I was for the most part the headliner every club I worked.I did a scene with John Travolta in the Movie A Cival Action some ten years ago with Robert Duvall in the scene as well.But dont rush out and rent the movie ,it ended up on the cutting room floor. As the production company decided to go back and do an ariel shot of Fenway park.(Lets get back to the Zone.)my first visit there was in 1967.I was all but 14 years old I had accompanied one of my older sisters to the Two O'clock Lounge. She was seeking employment as a go go dancer. She was interviewed by the youngest of the Venus brothers, Teddy.As I sat at the bar and drank a coke.A year later, I was dating a Sax player at the time, I was 15 he was 22. I went with some friends of mine to go and watch his show at the Intermission lounge. I dont recall the name of the band but they did a mean rendition of all the hit songs from the band Blood Sweat & Tears.his name was Kenny Hoar. we made the rounds to a few bars in the Zone that night, Jeromes ,Two O'clock. ending the evening with a night cap and some great chinese food in Chinatown. The Four Seas seemed to be everyones favorite.I'll be back with more tales from the Naked city. Tangerine

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By Scott K. (not verified) | Thu, 07/10/2008 - 9:26pm

I was in Boston in the 70's going to music school. I went down there with a trumpet player named Mac (I saw him on Saturday night live a few years ago) and sat and watched him play with an organist and a drummer. I can't remember if they let me sit in, but I remember watching the ladies dance to the music in front of the curtain. What a scene!

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By ck (not verified) | Sat, 07/26/2008 - 11:54am

I used to go to the Naked Eye all the time. I still remember the first time someone brought me there in the late 70's. It was a shocking, joyous feeling to walk in off the street and see two naked women at opposite ends of the long bar.I wish I had been around to see the old 2 o'clock, because I heard so many stories.I was devastated when the Naked Eye closed, then they literally tore it down and put up a parking lot. I totally agree with the previous posters that they destroyed a unique moment in time.ck

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By Rob (not verified) | Mon, 07/28/2008 - 1:10am

During the late seventies whenever visiting Boston with my Dad I would always have him drive us through what I called "Chinatown." ;-) As a young boy of 12 or 13 I thought Chinatown was pretty cool, however, the driving force behind my request was witnessing the grittiness of the Combat Zone. Later, in my early twenties I was fortunate enough to venture into the Zone a few times but it had lost all of it's character.Throughout my life I happened upon photos of the Zone from the early seventies and couldn't believe how cool it looked. What a stellar place- I would have been there every weekend if I was old enough. Now, I can't find one single photo anywhere of the old Zone. If anyone has any type of photos of the Combat Zone from the seventies through the mid eighties PLEASE send them along to me. I also welcome any stories, I find all of them fascinating.I've been infatuated by seventies culture my whole life and would really appreciate seeing any photos. (This isn't for a book or anything, just for me to check out.)My address:jaggsmusic-seventies@yahoo.com

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By honeycombs band (not verified) | Tue, 07/29/2008 - 7:22am

we played music at 2 of these locations. does anyone remember a chubby drummer who played at Jeromes for a while. As I remember, his 2 front teeth were missing and they called him Porkchop.

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By Fern Rivendrop (not verified) | Sun, 08/03/2008 - 1:37pm

I was a dancer at the Naked I Cabaret during the early-mid 80's. My first shift, a Wednesday in mid-March, ended at 7:00 PM, when Princess Cheyenne came out on stage and danced her way through a set of Genesis, Kim Carnes, and Cat Stevens. Watching her twirl in a long, flowing blue cape under the black lights, to the song, "She's Got Betty Davis Eyes", I knew that I wanted to reach her level of skill, if not status. She alone was the key influence on my dancing and I credit her with my success during those days. I later left the business when tastes changed from big show style costumes (Hedy Jo!!) and thoughtful themes to Rock Video Chick in a lycra dress, a style that didn't require much thought at all, just nerve enough to lay down on the dance floor and open your legs. Not a bad thing, just a progression of being nude and learning to get as much money as possible while you were on stage. I was delighted when I saw several burlesque troops bringing back the older form of exotic dancing, and wish that I had the body and youth to put myself back up on stage again.Names from back then:Dorie DixonLovely AliciaKendra WildeLolaSkylerChristieSamanthaMisty TropiqueSweet SativaJessica La SavageLinda LamiaBritneyCherelleSue the waitressTony the bartenderRicky the managerTara the djMel, the "owner"and so many more...

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By Boston Matt (not verified) | Sun, 08/24/2008 - 1:42pm

I was a Northeastern University student from 1969 to 1973, and made a number of trips to the Zone with friends. For most of that time, we were underage, but managed to get in and have a few beers anyway. We were fascinated with the overall class and allure of the dancers, and while my memory is hazy on a lot of the details, I DO remember Princess Cheyenne. I also remember Gino, a bartender at the Intermission Lounge, as well as a dancer named Midnight Star who danced there. I also remember a dancer named Kat who was from southern New Hampshire and danced at the Naked I if I recall correctly. The ambience of the whole Comabt Zone on a Friday or Saturday night was electrifying to a young kid having his first experience in such an area. I still travel back to Boston from time to time, and it really is sad to see all that life gone out of the area. I wish I had clearer memories of that time; at least the ones I do have will keep The Zone alive for me. I'll have to check to see if I have any pix from back then, which is doubtful. Long live the Combat Zone!!

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By John (not verified) | Fri, 08/29/2008 - 10:44am

I frequented the old zone quite often in the 70's and spent a fair amount of time in the old living room lounge as well as the four corners lounge, I became quite friendly with the owners of the living room who now own the squire in revere. I remember an okder mixer in the 4 corners named Angela who had huge tits, all natural I may add that I also had a friendship with. I remember sherry dee as the daytime bartender at the 4 corners, rocky was the evening bartender and elaine was the manager. I still see Joe fiumara at the squire occasionally and norma is still around, peter passed a couple of years ago. I am sure i will remember more as I think about it. i do remember princess cheyene before she took that name, I think she was just starting out then. LaGrange Street was a hoot with all the streetwalkers and pimps strutting their stuff the decked out autos ah it was a good time. Also the small hot dog stand on the corner of lagrange and washington best dog in the city. I'll try and recall some more tidbits.

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Sun, 08/31/2008 - 12:33am

Note to "Matt" I worked with Gino the bartender at the Piccadilly lounge he was going steady with a dancer by the name of Andrea. 30 years later they are still together . I also worked with her sister Elaine. Although I never worked with Princess Cheyanne. I do believe that she started working the zone in the late 70's -early 80's note to.. "John",I worked with Angela the mixer at the Intermisssion in the early 80"s she was short with black curly hair and wore glasses. She was a nice person. I worked the squire for one show and walked out as I did'nt like Norma at all!! That was late seventies. I worked with Dorie Dixon at the Caribe for quite some time she was best friends with Cathy the waitress there. Dorie was of greek heritage with a heavy Southern accent she hailed from Georgia.She had light curly brown hair and she was more on the tall side.She left the Caribe to work at the Naked I.I worked with Britney at the Piccadilly in "78" then years later at the Pussy cat lounge.There were quite a few dancers, to this day that have left quite a lasting impression in my mind and to whom I give praise to for thier fine tuned unique style and form and thus as an artist allowing me the opportunity to further cultivate my craft by way of choreographing some of thier best moves into my own routine.Some of the best I have had the pleasure to work with are Susan Monterey, Tequela, Donna Lee, Diane Lewis,Little Miss Mickey Martin,Electra 2000,(Charly.. from the Caribe),Julie Jordon ...(Mousetrap,Mid 1970's )Lovie.. Surf in Revere,1975)Miss Reddy Sloan (Golden Banana 1976)There were so many others, they will come to mind at a later time.I'll be back with more "Tails" from the Naked city.Tangerine

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By Gary (not verified) | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:38pm

I was 19 in 1963, stationed at Fort Devens, Massachusetts, we used to make the trip to Boston when ever we could. The first time the guys took me there, I was a naive kid from Southern New Jersey, small town, three streets. We hit all the clubs on Washington Street. At the Pic-a-Dilly Lounge a young lady approached me, she seemed real nice and friendly, she wanted me to buy her a drink, this never happened to me before and the guys told me to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink, it was nine dollars, the bartender took my twenty, put my change on the bar and she picked up my five and gave it to the bartender as a tip, saying here is something for you , Eddie. I said what the hell was that, with that she said if you are going to use that kind of language I am not drinking with you and she walked way, and Eddie poured out her drink, making a comment, Gotcha. It never happened again, Country boy learned his lesson, but it was worth it.I came back for a visit in the mid 70's with a girl I was dating, just to show he around, she was amazed.I would love to go back againg, but its not the same.

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By Julie (not verified) | Thu, 09/04/2008 - 1:01am

Julie Jordan here. Gee Tangerine you mention that you remember me & I'm sorry I can't picture you! I'm surprised that nobody here has mentioned Flo The MC from the Mousetrap,a petite older Jewish woman. How about Anne Marie, Vanessa (AKA Gypsy who went with Doorman Larry, Jeanie Brooks & what about Onyx, the African American transgendered? Oh what a colorful juicy time, if only I had kept a diary. Would love to hear from any of you!Julie Jordan/Miss

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By Regina (not verified) | Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:58am

since i first got online a few years ago,i have looked for a "combat zone where are they now?" sort of page and this is the closest i've found so far.late 70's-early eighties was my time in the cz.like so many other dancers, i initially bounced around from one club to another..cz,rte 1,canada til settling in the mousetrap for a while(until i got tired of the supposedly narcoleptic louie venus being asleep whenever pay was due...) then i worked at the silver slipper for quite a long time.anyone remember bernadette,the bartender?tangerine, i think i know you...did you ever live in dorchester? you met me when i was calling myself vicky.if anyone knows marlo or barbara,dancers at the silver slipper,in my time, i would love to talk to them again.btw, don't lapdances make pasties and gstrings seem almost quaint?i loved pasties and false eyelashes.

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By Regina (not verified) | Wed, 09/10/2008 - 12:14pm

if you worked in the cz in the late 70's and early eighties, you must remember roy dee...talent agent/super sticky sleazeball.three minutes and a google search after i remembered that name, i found this...http://www.roydeeagency.com/he's still in the business.he'd have to be kind of cryptkeeperesque in 2008.after looking at his webpage i'm bewildered."attention dancers..are you tired of paying clubs to work?"..direct quote.wtf,i'm glad i retired from the line of work.Reginap.s. tangerine, did you cousin drive a little red two seat convertible sports car?

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By Boston Matt (not verified) | Wed, 09/10/2008 - 2:24pm

Hi, Tangerine: Thanks for the update on Gino. He seemed like a good guy. I'm glad to hear he's still with the same dancer; that bodes well for both of them.Also, I seem to remember going down either Essex St. or Beach St. from Washington St. in the early 1970s, and there was a small storefront window on the right side where girls (prostitutes) would be sitting in the windows and tapping on the glass with quarters to attract passersby. We never took them up on their offers, so I don't know anymore about it. Does anyone else remember the same or similar thing in the CZ area?

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Tue, 09/16/2008 - 9:41pm

Hi Regina,Tangerine here..Yes I'm (OFD)originally from Dorchester born and raised. I left there after 50 years, some time ago.Also.. yes Ana Gail drove a small red two seater sportcar.That was in the early to mid seventies.I worked the Silver Slipper on Boylston street off and on in the mid seventies. I worked there the same time Billy Bennett was bartending also Donna Lee,Bernadette,Christine.I'm sorry I dont remember you. Could you rattle my brain with some instances or a conversation we might have had? I look forward to hearing back from you. Thank's .Tangerine

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By Jeff (not verified) | Thu, 09/18/2008 - 6:40pm

What about Good Time Charlies

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By Regina (not verified) | Thu, 09/25/2008 - 1:37pm

so long ago, tangerine, remembering's not easy. i think i first met you at a place in boston outside the cz named something like cantaloni's. the place was trying out a topless format.wore pastie's though. kind of modest by the standards of today.if i remember correctly we were both new to the biz.ran into you off and on..the squire (it was sandy shore,funny lady stripper at the squire, not sandy beach as someone else posted earlier.sandy was ofd too), silver slipper (though i think you worked nights),walking from field's corner station towards dix street.you always called me vicky even though i had used the name for only a few months when i first started dancing. in fact when i met you, you were not yet calling yourself tangerine though i'm not positive what name you were using. i do have a few maybes bouncing aroung my head though.remember alan a bartender at the silver slipper...dark curly hair, big '70's mustache, cute smile? or maryanne at the mousetrap,tended back bar,little redhead,wore a cap, pigtails and hotpants and was a sweatheart. that's something that i wouldn't say about many of the bartenders around back then.so any bells ringing?hope to ttyl,Reginaa p. s. to jeff.....was gtc's on lagrange street?

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Thu, 09/25/2008 - 8:14pm

Hi Regina,Caltonis! The stage was flush with the floor , there was a little old Italian lady who would serve us food through a little window from the kitchen. The place was Stripbar/Italian restraunt. There was a customer that looked just like the Indian on the back of an old nickel. He would always give me presents of Indian artifact. I still have a tiny moccassin he gave me.Surprised to know Sandy Shore was from Dorchester. My cousin AnaGail took me to see her show at the Squires. She was great!! The crowd loved her.Very funny and very high energy.I lived on the corner of Adams & Dix streets for years. I think we used to by pass each other around the old niehborhood from time to time. But I still can't place you.So much was going on back then. Not like a 9-5 were you see the same people all the time.If it helps any.. I look a lot like Susan Sarandon.Talk with you again! Tangy

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By Tangerine (not verified) | Thu, 09/25/2008 - 9:10pm

Oh! Regina ,one other thing .I forgot, to add.My first stage name was Red Fox then I chose the name Tangerine later on from the disco song Tangerine.

Hi Tangerine, I used to be

By Anon (not verified) | Sun, 10/19/2008 - 9:34pm

Hi Tangerine,
I used to be friendly with Susan Monterey. What can you tell me about her? Is she still in the area?

Susan Monterey

By Tangerine | Sun, 10/19/2008 - 9:50pm

In answer to your question in regards to Susan Monterey. I had worked woith her on and off at various clubs in Boston for many years. She was one of the last of some of the best dancer performers to grace the stage. She also had a part in the hit tv show, Spencer for Hire back in the mid 80's.The production crew filmed the outside of the Naked I for its opening scene . But she was actually filmed dancing on the stage in the Pussy cat lounge.She was beautiful!If I did know where she was I would not indulge that information.Sorry.BTW would you by any chance be the Tom who once managed the Club66? When Arthur Venus owned it.(1982)

Tangerine

Susan Monterey

By tredguy | Tue, 10/21/2008 - 1:54pm

Hi Tangerine,
Thanks for replying to my post.
No, I am not that Tom.
I was friendly with Susan for a while.
In fact, I believe Susan and I met you at a restaurant on Newbury prior to work one evening.
I just wanted to hear that she was well if you knew.
Thanks, Tom.

Susan Monterey

By Julie (not verified) | Sat, 10/10/2009 - 3:49pm

Dear Tangerine,

Please please write to me privately at - Susan was like a kid sister to me & it was me that brought her into the business. I have wished I could reconnect with her all these years but have no idea how. Is there any info you can share with me? anything at all?

Sincerely,

Julie (AKA - Julie Jordan)

Susan Monterey

By julie (not verified) | Mon, 06/08/2009 - 12:03am

Did the Susan you mention have red hair & fair skin?

Panama, Did you know

By Lorraine's niece (not verified) | Sat, 01/31/2009 - 1:49pm

Panama,
Did you know Lorraine Gail? If so, I'd like to speak with you.

Back in the Day

By CeeJay (not verified) | Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:53pm

I worked the Zone back in the early 80's, starting when I was 17yrs old. What memories this blog is bring back; the Pussy Cat Lounge, Liberty Book Store and the Peep Shows, The Carib Lounge, Boston Bunnies. I remember the Venus Brothers and some of the women mentioned. This is where I really grew up and learned many lessons which actually have benefitted me in career today which has nothing to do with dancing. Looking back is like watching a movie, so many lives ago.

My dad was a vice detective

By joe mumma (not verified) | Sat, 05/16/2009 - 9:55pm

My dad was a vice detective and spent most of his career in the zone all the dancers and prostitutes of the 70's knew him ...

vice and the vice squad

By anon (not verified) | Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:47pm

I lived in the CZ in 1969 and shared experiences with the vice squad on several occasions. I recount a few of these in my book, Lovers, Muggers & Thieves - A Boston Memoir. If your Dad is still with us he may enjoy this story, and perhaps he will see a little of himself in the pages of my book.

Regards,
Jonathan Tudan

Jerold's

By anon (not verified) | Sun, 07/05/2009 - 1:26pm

Last time I spoke with him, (last year) Jerry Rutberg had opened and closed "Adam and Eve Boutique" during the 80's in Coolidge Corner and was working as a real estate broker to retailers.

The 2'Oclock club in the 70's

By Jim Michaels (not verified) | Mon, 07/13/2009 - 4:52am

I had a friend that worked the Venus Bros club. I last saw her there in 75 -76 (?) Real name of Linda Axsom. She was from Bloomington, Indiana. I ran a gun and leather shop there with a partner, Tom.
I have been trying to find her for several decades. Last talked to her in 1980 or 81 on the phone. Don't recall the particulars but I recall the love of my good friend. We had a mutual friend in Richard Campbell, a former BF of hers.

Email:

Thanks.

reply to ms tangerine

By max (not verified) | Mon, 11/02/2009 - 5:53pm

hi ms tangerine.my name is max i worked in the teddy bear lounge from 1971 to 1973. i tended bar for big al and later for george tecchi .i was going to school and some of the gals were a big help to me .do you know dusty davis,candy heart or chantell caprice or do you know of a way to locate them .any help would b appreciated..max

Great memories

By naomiruth (not verified) | Sun, 10/19/2008 - 9:52pm

I was a throw away teen, now sixty, writing my memories of that time in my life. I was a young teen, but quite tall, dressed up as a little dude. Unpararaelled...I used to go dancing at the Nugget, whew! and Jeromes, what can I say? Later on, my love, Susan, danced at the Pussy Cat. She was Princess somebody or the other, I can't remember what she called herself. She was Irish and Armenian, but looked like a full blooded Navaho lady. She was great! Great dancer, and had a sense of humor about the whole thing. Does Mr. Richard Kennedy have an e-mail address he would care to share with me? I would love to cyber chat with him. is mine. Any more memories about the early bands at Jeromes would be welcome, too.

Hi Julie Jordan, When I

By Tangerine | Sun, 10/19/2008 - 9:53pm

Hi Julie Jordan,

When I worked the mousetrap mid 70's.. I remember Flo the mc . She had short c red hair.She and the band were replaced by way of the jukebox. The light with the bare bulb hanging over the stage, that came on when the vice were approaching! I also remember at the end of the night shift lining up at the office door waiting for our pay and there was Louie asleep at the desk with Arthur sitting next to him. Arthur would roar like a lion when he awoke, yelling at everyone.But he was pretty harmless.He and Arthur did seem to favor redheads.I wanted to respond a lot sooner ,but.. my responses would not go through.Random images and memories of that time so long ago come back to me in collective pieces. So whenever a new one comes to surface I will post it.

Tangerine

Tangerine

By Tangerine | Fri, 10/31/2008 - 10:57pm

Tangerine

Hi Tom

By Tangerine | Sun, 11/02/2008 - 12:54am

I believe it was The Parker House in Boston April 1978.Angel was there and her then boyfriend Michael. Michael ordered a hamburger.. Angel and I had the lobster dinner.Was'nt your (promoter),Marty there as well? He was from Atlanta Georgia.

Tangerine

Interesting article in this

By Gary Rich (not verified) | Mon, 11/10/2008 - 10:16am

Interesting article in this month's Boston Magazine about Mayor Menino's wish to do away with the remnants of the Combat Zone among other things.

Intermission Lounge & the Combat Zone

By Phil Kawa (not verified) | Thu, 12/04/2008 - 7:33pm

Sometime in the early 60's I played guitar with a few groups in the zone. My first gigs were at Edwards Western Playhouse, The Novelty the Hillbilly Ranch. I remember a guitarist by the name of George Moody who was an awesome finger picker and wonder where is is today.

Later on I took interest in R & B music and appeared with several bands including Roger Pace, Dario & the Rainbows and Buddy DiVincent's "Soul Generation" in the Downtown Lounge to name a few and I agree a musician earns his wings in the zone.
I eventually met and married a go-go girl ,who later became a stripper who called herself Sandy Shore. She was quite an act and that marriage didn't last too long but I did hear from her about a year ago.

I still play a little guitar and have taken an interest in ballroom music and sometimes do a little open mike or karaoke but I won't quit the day gig (again).

I'm in touch with a few of the musicians of that era including "Little Al" the trumpet/bass player.
I often wondered what became of the great showman Roger Pace and did some searching and came across this e-mail on the web which I posted below.

If anyone has photos or any memorabilia of the Zone in those days I would like you to send it to me so I can put together a web page.
Thanks and read the following article about Roger

R.I.P. saxophonist Roger Pace
From: Kendra Holt
Date: 09 Jun 2001
Time: 08:31:09
Remote Name: 209.110.93.2

Comments
One of Baltimore's' finest saxophonists,Roger Pace passed away in the last month from complications from emphysema.A fine player in many idioms,especially blues and jazz he played with many local and national artists incuding the late Mary Pat Hughs,Kendra Holt and Trudy Morgul.

Roger Pace
Bow your head! Pace was a revered performer, an ultimate showman, and a veteran of years of Combat Zone bars. Owners came and went; patrons came and went; the tireless Pace signed on for another tour. R&B veterans sit and sip between band sets, and when the dressing room conversation goes the way it goes, it's usually peppered with comments and conversations like "Who's the best you ever saw," ".worked with," ".sat in with," etc., Roger's name invariably pops up. A legend in the 60's, he was still wowing `em in the eighties.

The boys may not tell you about the time some wise-guys hung Roger upside down (over and into) a toilet bowl, or the time he was nailed into his stage prop coffin at show time, but.you get the drift.

The Intermission Lounge/Roger Pace and the Pacemakers

By john paiva (not verified) | Fri, 02/27/2009 - 5:58pm

I was guitarist with "Everett Miles and The Screamers" 1964 - 1971. I spent most of that time playing the Boston area/Cape Cod etc and naturally the Combat Zone. I played a couple of nights at the Intermission with Roger Pace. His guitarist and bassist were (the Simone Brothers I believe), brothers and for some reason I was sent to cover the gig for him. This is an unforgetable memory. I would love contact with anyone from that time period and who is a veteran of the combat zone.

Roger Pace

By Doug D'Agrosa (Messenger) (not verified) | Wed, 05/06/2009 - 1:58am

Hi John,

I played with Everett for two weeks before I left Boston, but you probably remember me as Roger's guitarist in '67 and '68. My wife Jeanne passed away in Aug of '69 and I left for the West Coast.
I last spoke to Roger in '99 ot 2000. He wanted to start the Pacemakers again!!!

I hope that you're well and I have a million Roger Pace stories to share.

Best,

Doug

Roger Pace

By John Rinehimer | Tue, 06/23/2009 - 11:02am

Hi Doug, i bought a telecaster from you back in Boston.I played at the downtown Lounge (Pussy cat) and with a group called Dino (or Dario)and the Deciples. I also backed up Lady Bo a couple of times as well as a few strippers. I also played a short time at Jeromes and any other gig I could get. On the breaks,the musicians would go over to the Intermisssion to watch you play with Roger. Your playing was so advanced, it blew everyone away. I think I met you again at an Etta James gig in La at the Troubadour in the late Sevanties. Does that sound familiar? I had a terrible flu and only played chords for that gig. I probably wasn't very friendly as i was sick on every break.I think you were hanging around with Buzzy Feiton so i assume you were doing well musically
Anyway, I figured I would eventually come across you on the internet and I couldn't believe it when i saw your blog. Hope you are well and I would be interested to hear what you are up to musically.
You can see my bio at Twocatstv.com I mostly compose and arrange now.
John Rinehimer

Hi, Doug

By Jeanne (not verified) | Tue, 10/06/2009 - 11:24am

Don't know if you'll remember me (tall, blonde).....I worked at the Fred Petty agency in Boston...and I remember you coming in looking for work, remember thinking what a nice guy you were....and I think we did get work … you were great!! So sorry to hear about your wife....my sympathy goes out to you. this site has really brought back so many memories of the old days.....I'm just amazed at all the names I recognize. reminds me of the saying: "the best thing about the good old days..was I wasn't good and I wasn't old"!! :-) What are you up to now??? I replied to john paiva's post if you want to check it out.

Jeanne

Roger Pace, The Intermission Lounge

By Doug (not verified) | Wed, 10/07/2009 - 12:21pm

Hi Jeanne,

The old crowd is coming together again! I've been in touch with several of the musicians and fans through the Roger Pace blog.

You can get in touch with me via e-mail or by calling one of the numbers on my web page: www.harddrivestudio.com It would be great to spend some time reminiscing.

What ever happened to Fred Petty?

Muzzy toured with us when I was with Roger in '67. In '68 we used other horn men sporadically.

I'm in California now.

Doug

My webpage

By Doug (not verified) | Sat, 10/10/2009 - 2:36am

Jeanne,
My web guy is switching to a different host, so the page is down. It will be back up in a day or two.

Doug

?

By Doug (not verified) | Fri, 10/23/2009 - 1:38am

Jeanne,

You wrote. I answered. You disappeared. Let's catch up. Call me or write to me.

Doug

Combat Zone

By tommy trumpet (not verified) | Thu, 06/18/2009 - 11:30am

Hey John, I do believe I remember you. I played horn with "Billy Paris, Juri Christie & the Upbeats" '69-'71. Played pretty much the same circuit: Downtown Lounge, Mad Russian, Pal Joey's, Lucifer, Joey's (Reviere), Downtown Lounge, Mad ... And how many times did we all take that front table at The Intermission - after greeting Jesse at the door - and get our dose of Roger Pace??? Remember Bobby Medeiros ... drummer with Albie & the Spellbinders ... blew double base & made it sound like a freight train from two feet away!!! Also around back then ... Mickey, Larry & the Exciters; Mason, Dixon & the Line; Max Mob ...

The Downtown Lounge was my second gig with the band, but I remember the Venus brothers, Larry, and Freddy Milinky on the door. Just down the street was the 'Mines' (basement level pool room), and across the street down a dingy side street was the world reknown Good Time Charlie's !!!

And how about those 2-6 matinees and 7:20-2 weekends at the Downtown ?! Killers, man.

I started a blog on Roger

By Phil Kawa (not verified) | Wed, 08/12/2009 - 9:38pm

I started a blog on Roger Pace. I have collected a few photos and I welcome anyone to submit stories or pictures. The blog can be found at http://rogerpace.wordpress.com/

I HAVE INFO FOR YOUR BLOG

By Jeanne | Tue, 10/13/2009 - 1:35pm

Noticed on your blog you have a list of musicians who have
passed. i have a date for bill mazzocca (muzzy)....and will send it to you as soon as i can loate it.

Jeanne

Memories

By Salvatore Siciliano (not verified) | Mon, 09/14/2009 - 7:03pm

Hey John, it's Sal,you would remember me as Steve.I just punched in Roger Pace & the Pacemaker's & all these great story's started to appear. I hope life has been good to you & that you're happy & healthy. Do you still see Everett? As I recall, you guy's were cousin's. I ran into Muzi about nine year's ago & had a great time talking about the old day's. John, where did the time go? Snap ypur finger, and we're old men. Well I am anyway, you alway's had that baby face. I've never been 63 before,so I'm still trying to feel my way around.I alway's wished I had taken music more seriously, the one thing in life that was better than anything else I ever did was to play those drum's. Glad I found you & take care Steve Siciliano

Hi, Steve

By Jeanne (not verified) | Tue, 10/06/2009 - 11:27am

Don't know if you'll remember me....Jeanne...worked for Fred Petty agency and went out with Muzzy for a long time. i have a colored photo of Everett and the Skeemers (it says, i thought it was screamers?) you are in it...drummer. It's been quite a trip reading all these posts......sure took me back in time. don't want to repeat myself...so if you want to check out my replies to John Paiva and Doug D'Agrosa.
Jeanne

Hi, John

By Jeanne (not verified) | Tue, 10/06/2009 - 11:18am

I'm Jeanne....was with Muzzy for a long long time. I remember you were with a girl named Kathy (hope that's the right name)....not sure if you were married or just dating....you had a Siamese cat...right?? I think you used to live close by to Muzzy in Medford. I worked for the Fred Petty agency in Boston and we used to book the Intermission Lounge and others in the Combat Zone. I'm so glad I googled the Combat Zone...sure brought back a lot of memories....and I recognize so many of the musicians that have been mentioned...and of course who could forget Roger Pace. I remember he once Fred had booked Roger in Rhode Island, and the guys from the Intermission came up to the office, gave me a box of candy and some flowers and told me to just sit there and be a good girl...they went into Fred's office and really read him the riot act...kind of scary....well, you know that Roger was back at the Intermission the next night!!!!

I met Muzzy when Fred had a group called Tony Conn & Frantics .....he had them booked in troy NY...and the club owner wanted a girl with the group....so Fred asked if I could carry a tune....and off I went with the group for a few months. I guess Tony Conn almost made it at one time ( you can Google him) but he was a little washed up by then. Muzzy was on sax, Al Boudreau on bass, a kid they called 'Specs' on drums.

I went back to Fred Petty's agency after that...in fact Kenny Paulsen played with us once or twice.

checking out some of the posts, etc. it was sad to hear how many of the musicians I knew had passed away. Got a letter from Muzzy's sister a few years back telling me he had passed...wrote back to her but my letter came back..so I found an address for his brother Nicky and wrote there but still no answer. I have so many photos I thought they might want to have. I still have a colored photo of you with Everett.

I checked out your web page, and wow...you are really doing great!!! Hard to believe you're in Germany. You'll have to let me know how that came about.

After Fred's I went into modeling ....then in the middle 70's moved to Florida where my folks had retired. I live on bradenton beach on an island called Anna Maria Island. Really like paradise in the winter...the summer...not so much :-) It's a very narrow island...takes me three minutes to walk from the gulf to the bay. A little scary during hurricane season but so far the past few years we've been lucky...no hurricanes.

I hope you are checking this site and get my reply.

Jeanne

no coffin

By broadway al (not verified) | Sun, 06/07/2009 - 12:19pm

Roger never used a coffin in his performances, your thinking of that strange cat the walked on sometimes with a huge cross.
As far as the wise guys your talking about I once was late for a matinee at the "Intermish" so I took my motorcycle to the gig (1957 BSA Big Valve Rocket) and drove it right up onto the dance floor.
Joe Balero came up after I dropped the kick stand and said "do you think you could at least park
it over by the service bar?". One time when playing in the Lewis Room in Revere Roger was screwing around with the money again so Jack J. and I walked. (basically his horn section) that night Billy B. came to the club and told the owner he wanted Roger back at the Intermish. The owner didn't give a crap as to who he was talking to and told Billy I've got 2 weeks with an option so take off. You gotta understand that the band had been playing at the Intermish for about 9 weeks straight and that's 7 nights a week union 40 minutes on 20 off with as many as two matinees. Billy goes out and gets his shotgun and blows the windshield off the owners car. The next night Roger came up with the money and told us what happened and even though we
weren't there we all got subpoenas the following monday while in the dressing room at the Intermish from two plain clothes cops. We had to avail ourselves for about a week at the courhouse and you can't imagine what we looked like to the straight world whirling around us.
I personally thought we looked like some kind of fungus as we didn't rarely see daylight. We used to use TAN # 2 pancake on stage.

Roger's family name was Paesch and according to the social security
record he was born Nov. 24, 1944 and died May 29, 2001.

Back in the Day

By CeeJay (not verified) | Mon, 02/02/2009 - 5:11pm

I started working the Zone in the early 80's when I was 17. I started in the Liberty Book Store peep booths and made the rounds in the clubs. I danced the Carib, Intermission, club 66, Boston Bunnies and others but the names escape me. Truly amazing days back then, learned many lessons which molded who I am today. I'm a fortunate one I know this but its nice to read others made it out to live normal lives too.....This is great!
I got out too when many women, won't name group came in and just took everything off on the first song and got down right dirty. Got hard to make money after that. I was a pretty good mixer however. Wow, those were the days. I just found this site but will be reading often.

I studied the Combat Zone

By LaGrange (not verified) | Tue, 02/24/2009 - 8:58pm

I studied the Combat Zone intensely for five minutes at a time in the decade or so before I turned 18. When I was a child and we had just moved to town, we went out to see a movie, The Cat from Outer Space. I think it was playing at the Cinema 57 but we never got there. As we walked along the Zone’s periphery on our way to the theater, my father saw something – I don’t know what it was – that prompted him to turn us right around and go back home. I was intrigued.

Later, when my parents got divorced and I spent a lot of time with my grandmother, I would routinely catch a bus out of town from a corner near the Brigham’s at Tremont and Boylston and it would roll down Essex Street past a sprawling neon sex trip toward the highway.

Because the seedy Teddy Bear Arcade was on the outskirts of the Zone rather than at its epicenter, I made the mistake one day of telling my mother about going there after school. I didn’t know that it had once been the seedy Teddy Bear Lounge, but my mother did and as far as she was concerned it remained every bit as evil -- except now I was the entertainment for a new clientele of would-be child molesters. She refused to take me to a comic book store nearby and her instincts were later proven right when I went in myself one day and spotted a stack of gay porn videos at the cash register. The top one was called “The Cocksman.”

To hear it told now, the Zone was in decline even then. Andrew Puopolo got killed in 1976 and I didn’t even start coming through until ’82 or so. The lights were bright and the pants were tight, though, and not even the certain knowledge that three-quarters of the people I saw were eager to rape me and sell me into white slavery was enough to turn me off to its supercharged sex scene. There were posters of women with bare breasts outside the buildings – that was lure enough. A second-floor hotel promised temporary housing if I ever ran away from home. In retrospect, I’m glad I didn’t.

I was a bouncer for many of

By Bouncer Bob (not verified) | Tue, 07/21/2009 - 1:28am

I was a bouncer for many of the Venious-"owned" joints in the early to mid eighties,as well as working for Alex Andreou at the saxon coffee shop.My brother in law,Billy Phillips,was the"owner" of the caribe,along with Leo.remember manny the doorman?I used to hang out at Alfies on Tremont street.What a place-half hookers and pimps,half bikers(the red emeralds).Like you,I just stumbled onto the site,but will read it often.

combat zone

By bob (not verified) | Sat, 03/14/2009 - 11:14pm

ah the memories
caribe silver slipper club 66 good time charlies and of course the naked i and others.
late 70s 80s good times
well all but one at club 66 where a girl picked her nose and then ate it all cause i wouldnt buy her a drink.
one time i saw stan stassik and the grand wizard walking thru

Lovers, Muggers & Thieves - a Boston Memoir

By jonathantudan | Thu, 05/14/2009 - 10:52am

In 1969, as an eighteen-year-old college freshman, I managed a six-story flophouse inside the Combat Zone, renting rooms by the week to the local dancers, hookers, musicians, drug dealers and street scammers. I recently published a book formed from that experience, Lovers, Muggers & Thieves – a Boston Memoir. Although this is a work of nonfiction, most of the names and other identifying characteristics of the persons and places included in this memoir have been altered to protect identities. The experiences detailed are all true and have been portrayed as I remember them, to the best of my ability, but I would be dishonest if I did not confess to slight distortions of the finer points which lay beyond the clouds of reminiscence. Some details, drawn with lines through decades of memory, may be inaccurate. I also have taken some liberties and romanticized the musical entertainment inside the strip clubs, substituting juke-box rock for the ubiquitous honky-tonk crap; although the snare drum and organ do make an appearance in a few venues. Conversations throughout the text may not always be word-for-word transcriptions of actual dialogue, but rather are meant to bring the emotional entanglements of this time to life. To be sure, Lovers, Muggers & Thieves is not meant as a story about the Combat Zone; it just happens to take place there. This is more of a coming-of-age tale about a boy coping in a man’s world. When I moved into the building I was a virginal, innocent, wide-eyed kid; within six months I was carrying on an affair with a popular stripper, ten-years my senior, joining her and her friends for enjoyable diversions from the daily grind of my classroom existence. My story brings to life a convergence of extraordinary events inside the city’s most infamous neighborhood. It’s an entertaining journey of friendship flirting with the dark side. To my friends and neighbors of the Combat Zone who shared with me a brief moment in time and forever changed my life, this memoir is dedicated to you.

jonathan Tudan

Are you doing a book tour?

By Ron Newman | Thu, 05/14/2009 - 11:10am

Any readings in local bookstores?

Your book is not (yet?) in either the Minuteman Library Network or the BPL catalog.

LM&T a Boston Memoir

By jonathantudan | Thu, 05/14/2009 - 12:28pm

Ron...
My book was recently published. I don't know why it is not available at BPL; I am not familiar with Minuteman. LM&T is available in several Boston outlets: the COOP at MIT, South Station, Trident Booksellers on Newbury, Emerson College, BU, Northeastern, Barnes & Noble South Shore Plaza. It can also be found on Amazon and B&N's websites. I have spoken with BU and MIT's COOP about a signing in the fall after the students return. I will be in Boston the end of this month for an interview with Mike Marotta, the Arts & Entertainment editor for the Herald.

jonathan Tudan

Minuteman Library Network

By Ron Newman | Thu, 05/14/2009 - 12:44pm

is the union catalog of almost all local libraries *except* the Boston Public Library: Cambridge, Somerville, Arlington, Belmont, Lexington, Brookline, Newton, etc. So if your book isn't in that catalog, none of those libraries have yet bought it.

http://mln.lib.ma.us/

LM&T - a Boston Memoir

By jonathantudan | Thu, 05/14/2009 - 12:30pm

The book's web site is: www.loversmuggersandthieves.com

jonathan Tudan

when did it change?

By Jeanne | Tue, 10/13/2009 - 1:45pm

Hello Jonathan

I've posted a few times here as I was a secretary for a booking agency that booked many many musicians at clubs in the combat zone.
Wondering if you could tell me how and why the big change in the zone from all rock and roll clubs in the sixties.. to all
strip clubs, etc.??

Jeanne

reply to jeanne

By max (not verified) | Mon, 11/02/2009 - 5:38pm

jeanne i worked in the teddy bear lounge in park sq as a bar tender while in school.i was there from 1971 to 1973.did you also book the dancers?i like to locate a few of my old pals .do you know of any way to locate dancers from that era ,they would probably be in their 60s today,,max

It's like old home week here

By SixBSam | Fri, 06/05/2009 - 11:08am

"When I moved into the building I was a virginal, innocent, wide-eyed kid"

Huh, ain't that the truth.

Hello Jon. Your book arrived yesterday and I've nearly finished it. Hell of a read that's brought back a lot of fond memories of our misspent youth. I've sent you an email through the book's site and hope to hear from you soon.

Hi Doug. I'm not sure you'll remember me. I used to visit you and Jeanne at your digs on Gloucester St. I remember you had a friend, Jorge N. visiting from Mexico at the time. Glad to hear you're still alive and kickin'.

Hello Phil Kava. If you happen to hear from Little Al, please tell him that his old friend Tink remembers him with much affection and speaks of him whenever we chat about our days in the Zone. Is Jackie J (sax player and close friend of Al's) still around too?

Hi John Paiva. I'm wondering if you know whatever happened to Muzzi, Everett's sax player? Big bear of a guy that everyone loved. I heard he passed away some time ago, but don't know if that's true.

Very sad news that Roger has passed. He was a truly lovely man and without a doubt one of the best frontmen ever.

For those that are interested, I have an 8x10 black and white photo of Roger and the Pacemakers. Roger's on the far left, then Arnie Barrie, Jimmy Gregory, Jimmy Cady and Denny Ward kneeling in front. It's tattered, stained and ripped, but still easily photocopied. If you contact me at liviatrivia at yahoo, I'm willing to make copies and send them to you, but if I get a lot of crap mail at that account, it will be closed. So please, serious requests only and first consideration to those who knew him. Or, as an alternative, if anyone has the expertise to instruct me, perhaps there's a way to recreate it electronically and post it on someone's website? Either way, I'm willing to share.

Thanks everyone, for sharing your memories of life in the Zone. It's been a pleasure to read.

Sam

Tink, Jack, muzzie roger etc

By broadway al (not verified) | Sun, 06/07/2009 - 12:38pm

I've been talking to Doug a lot because we're both out here on the coast.
Jack Joyce was a fisherman down' P town for a while thought I have had contact
with him since the early nineties. I didn't know Muzzie was gone (Billy Mazocca).
A sax player/repairman Bob Drinkwater out in Wakefield heard from him once in
a while.
Jimmy Keady was seen playing and singing at an open mike night in Quincy.
Phil Kawa is available from Kawamusic.com
Doug has a recording studio in N. Hollywood called Hard Drive.
Denny Ward (Haddad) is gone. As are (I believe) both Simone brothers.
If you can get more info to me please. I don't remember your name and I can't remember Tinks
real name either.

Tempo Raye

By Phil (not verified) | Thu, 06/04/2009 - 2:16pm

Does anyone have any information on a gorgeous and classy stripper named Tempo Raye from about 1970. She was about 30, brunette, great body. Worked at Peter and Harry's, a little joint on Avery Street that connected to The New Normandy Lounge, which faced Washington Street. Both small and seedy but lots of fun. She also danced at The Moire, located on a small street perpendicular to Stuart and across from the old Living Room, not far from the old Nick's Steak House. Anyway, she was really hot. Also, there was a cute hooker named Dee Peterson who worked out of Good Time Charlies and the 663 on Washington. Any info on her?

First, that street where the

By Wally (not verified) | Fri, 06/05/2009 - 7:49am

First, that street where the Moire was is called Warrenton and the club is now a parking lot for the Edison Co. Yes, Tempo was really something--sexy, hot dancer, friendly and danced to a live music. One of the popular combos was "The Ben Anthony Trio" and they also played at the old Teddy Bear in Park Square.
Next, I do remember Dee who had a place in Charles River Park--really enthusiastic but don't know what happened to her--would like to though!
Speaking of that subject, there was an older sporting girl named Terri from Beacon near Dartmouth. I heard she still works and must be almost 80! Any detes? A friend also told me about an exotic, tall busty, blonde German girl named Annie or Anya or something like that. Worked out of Charlies but also hung around Jasons and Club Max. She had(maybe still does)a place in Brighton and she was able to introduce you to some of the strippers, too. Very wild in the sack and I think she's still active. Any info on her would be great to hear. The CZ is not yet over and done with!

favorite CZ memories

By anon (not verified) | Sun, 07/05/2009 - 1:16pm

1970: while working for the Venis Bros. during college, I was dating an older stripper. One night at the Hotel Avery, she threatened to jump out a 7th floor window if I didn't quit school and go on tour with her. (Anyone remember Nicollette?) Scared the daylights out of me.
1978: By now married,I lived in Scituate, buried in snow during The Great Blizzard. Trapped out of town working, I took a train to Boston and holed up at the Park Plaza Hotel in Park Sq.until the travel ban could be lifted. No phone service to my house, hadn't spoken to my wife in a week. Went to one of the 1st ATM's, corner Stuart/Washington to get cash.After a week of cabin fever, I went to one of the few local pubs still open, a place partially owned by Bruin Derek Sanderson that opened on both Park Sq. and Boylston St.Shortly thereafter, the Teddy Bear Lounge next door finally ran out of liquor and had to close. Now the afternoon strippers, unable to work and bored, filed into my lunchspot and started jumping on guys' laps.After bumping into a friend, (whose lap was also crowded), we spent the next 2 hours getting lubricated. Just as I was wondering if my luck was about to improve, into the darkened bar bursts a huge floodlight, blinding everyone at the bar. "Chet Curtis with the Channel 5 minicam, let's see how people are weathering the storm!" Yes, my wife found out I was alive on the 6 o'clock news, while I was surrounded by, er, flamboyant women. God bless her, we're still together.

Reminiscences of Roland Shaughnessy

By SixBSam | Tue, 06/09/2009 - 4:04pm

If you go to youtube and search on the above title, you'll find a series of eight short interviews with Roland Shaughnessy, former drummer with Mac's Mob, the Rainbow's (Dario's maybe?), the Platters, and a few other groups. He talks about how he got into the business, life on the road, the Boston club scene in the 60s, his time at Berkelee, his decision to leave the business and what he's doing today.

Sam

Was the Tam around back

By anon (not verified) | Wed, 06/24/2009 - 5:00pm

Was the Tam around back then? I've heard it's been for a while. Any good stories, or at least shocking ones?

The TAM

By jonathantudan | Mon, 07/20/2009 - 3:22pm

I lived next door to the TAM in 1969. I stood by one late afternoon in March when Officer Johnson was taken out the door feet first. Officer Johnson was shot, along with two other people, by a drifter who came in to rob the place. The TAM was not a crazy place, per say; poor Officer Johnson, who died that day, just happened to be there at the wrong time. I also remember being kept up at night into the early morning hours by the sounds of the organ music drifting out the door, along with the smell of beer. Real honky-tonk shit.

Mr Tudan,it seems that we

By bouncer bob (not verified) | Tue, 07/21/2009 - 11:48am

Mr Tudan,it seems that we had a building in common.You lived in the Saxon,224 tremont,right?I had an apartment there in the mid 80s.The Tam(I always thought it was "Clam" when I first saw it,because of the gothic script sign) was right next door to it.I thought that was the picture I saw of you behind a 6 story building---The good(?)old Saxon.Was a Whorehouse in your time,wasn't it? I had only heard stories.I am very intersted in your book so I can get an idea of what went on before my time in the Zone.
Does anyone remember Richie Allen,or Tony,the counterman from the Saxon?How about big Dave Guthrie?

80s Combat Zone

By Bouncer Bob (not verified) | Thu, 07/23/2009 - 3:05pm

As I stated in a previous post,I worked for The Venious brothers,as well as Joe Balliro and Joe Tecce,and some other guys I'd rather not mention, as a bouncer at most of the clubs on Washington Street.I arrived in the Zone in the early 80s after a hitch in the Marine Corps,and was educated by the inner city life that the Zone had to offer.When I got tired of fighting for a living,figuratively as well as literally,I started working for a friend of Teddy's named Alex Andreou,who owned the Saxon Coffee Shop at 224 Tremont St.,and I got an apartment in the building upstairs on the top floor.The Saxon was a refuge for many CZ denizens looking for decent food at cheap prices.In the daytime,the counter was manned by two Greek guys named John and Costa,as well as Alex,and at night it was Tony and me.We had our share of trouble there,and had to put more than a few people down for the count.At that time,there was a steady traffic in stolen goods in and out of the place,practically to order.If you told someone that you wanted gold,you would have boosters coming from everywhere with rings,necklaces,anything you wanted.I told a guy once that I wanted a guitar,and he promptly went up to Boston Music and stole one,case and all,which he sold to me for $100.It was a $1000 guitar,an Ovation balladeer,as I recall.The cast of characters was amazing.I remember how the hookers would pay Good Time Charlies to let them dance a set so they could pick up tricks afterward.I met Robin Benedict there on LaGrange St.,about 3 months before Professor Douglas killed her.Richie Allen was a constant fixture there,a former pro boxer and ex con who would turn your lights out at a moment's notice.Quite an education for a young guy from Pittsburgh who had never seen such goings on.If anyone reading this was around in those days,please respond.

Terri on Beacon St.

By Eddie (not verified) | Sun, 07/26/2009 - 10:00am

A few weeks ago someone asked about an "entertainer" named Terri who lived on Beacon near Dartmouth. RIP--she died a few months ago and it is understood she had been working until shortly before she died at age 91--believe it or not!
Eddie

the Zone

By kjy (not verified) | Thu, 08/06/2009 - 1:18am

Hey, all you Zoners! I was there , too. I remember the orignal Jamaican Tangerine (who we called Tangerama), and also some of the great mixers, like Christina of the Picadilly and Pussycat, who never went with guys, but who drank well and was a great talker. How about the friendly big guy who was a bartender at the Caribe? Those were some of the best years of my life, lots of fun, and great friends. Does anyone remmeber Albert at the Picadilly/Pussycat, and his mom, Peggy, who worked along side him there?

Lady Tangerine

By Gary from Lewiston,ME (not verified) | Thu, 08/06/2009 - 9:18am

This has to be the Tangerine I knew in the early 1970.s. I saw her dance at the Picadilly and she used to spend a lot of time at the Hotel Holly in Lewiston,Maine. She was Jamaican and had long legs and was well put together. Whatever happened to her

Tangerine from Boston

By Jim & Rita (not verified) | Sun, 08/30/2009 - 10:47am

I read some of your comments posted here. You must be the Tangerine my wife Rita & I used to go and see at the Intermission and the Pic. clubs.You were the most beautiful redhead in Boston!Such a classy dancer, very smooth, graceful and ladylike.Just like the song say's ,"Tangerine she is all they claim"!You can reach us :)Antsymoore@yahoo

Tangerines (2)

By Tangerines (not verified) | Wed, 09/02/2009 - 1:07am

I worked with Cristina at the Picadilly, she frequently brought some of her homemade Polish food to the club for Stanley the owner.She brought Christmas stockings for every one that worked in the club that year,filled to the brim and with our name on them. I still have mine after almost 30 years. She also introduced me to my best friend. That was 1978-9. Albert and his mom Peggy were there at that time. The big bartender you are refering to was Jack at the Caribe . He was married to Donna Lee.I remember calling Tangerine "Tangerama". Gebo or Peter the bartender gave her that name.I am the other Tangerine (redheaded) and people would sometimes call me Tangerini.Did you work there or were you a customer?

Combat zone in the eightees

By anon (not verified) | Wed, 09/16/2009 - 9:42pm

I worked at Sam's Beef and Ale as a waitress from1984 -1987 when they closed.I than went to work as a waitress across the st. at Dominic's.(the old alfie's)I worked there from 1987- 2006,when they closed. I was devastated. I grew up in the zone. When I wasnot working at the resteraunt, I would be right out there with my man at the time.(loser with a capital L)He hung around with all the fixtures down there. Do you remember Mary Canery . I use to hang out with her when I first started working downtown. Didn't tony and Mary go to Florida? Do you remember Dale and Jimmy. Little Dale was short with long dark hair. They always kept a room over the saxon back in the day. I was best friends with Nelson over at the Tam.Nelson was the private cop they payed to clean up the Tam. He was cool and the gang, He died tragicly 8 years ago. Do you remember fat Lisa and Eric. Or milton, or Shirly and wally? Write back so we can compare war stories. What a couple of decades those were.

Does anyone remember Sonny

By anon (not verified) | Tue, 08/25/2009 - 4:07pm

Does anyone remember Sonny Stanton and his band playing The Palace? 1959-62. He had a very good singer with the band: Moondog

Going back to the fifties, there was a piano bar in the alley way up Washington Street before Avery -- part of the Avery Hotel. I think it was above a restaurant named Dinty Moore. I saw Keith Jarrett there in the late fifties. He played there regularly.

Sonny Stanton

By Doug Messenger (not verified) | Thu, 10/08/2009 - 2:16pm

I played guitar with him for a few nights in the late sixties. He was a decent entertainer and played light jazz and funky jazz for the most part. Friendly too. I have no idea as to what became of him, but it was a fun, easy time.

The 80s Zone

By Bouncer Bob (not verified) | Mon, 09/21/2009 - 10:34pm

When I first moved into the zone in 83 or so,the place on Tremont Street was Alfies -- amazing place;half Bikers(Red Emeralds),half hookers and pimps.I was there one night when Dominick(who was only part owner at the time) threw a guy through the front window.JB the bartender was the man if you wanted virtually any controlled substance.I worked in the clubs for a few years,then I worked for Alex at the Saxon with Tony and Big Dave Guthrie.That place was almost as rough as the clubs that I had worked in.To the anon who posted on Sept.16,do you remember Brenda ? She had a place above the Saxon,too.She,um,worked at home.She also was a fixture dancing in the 70s,but retired because hooking paid better(her words).How about Richie Allen?Maybe we knew a lot of the same people.Ah nostalgia......

Naked I

By Janine (not verified) | Wed, 10/14/2009 - 2:21pm

Does anyone remember the cast of characters at the Naked I in the mid-seventies. I think a guy named Ray C? ran the club. There was a supposed FBI agent called Earl. One of the bartenders was Tony and the day manager was Billy. Some of the dancers were Suzanne, Jasmine, Lynda. The band was terrific, but then - as with the other clubs - they were replaced with a jukebox. For a while there was a black woman MC - but I can't remember her name.

I'd love to hear if anyone knows what happened to these folks.

mouse trap

By jldw22 (not verified) | Sat, 10/17/2009 - 9:35am

does anyone remember the mouse trap lounge

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