Why aren't our squares square, and other questions from a fruitless trip across the river

There's no way to summarize Mike Mennonno's post about getting from Somerville to Boston Medical Center by MBTA bus, so just go read it.

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By Lyss | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:24pm

I've been asking that question since I moved to New England

Don't forget...

By BrucemB | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:29pm

...Powderhouse Square which is round, and Ball Square, named for a round object, but shaped like a bunch of randomly intersecting streets.

The best square

By adamg | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:33pm

Has to be the one with its own mascot.

but what's so hard about waiting for the #1 and CT1 buses?

By Ron Newman | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:32pm

They stop right on Mass. Ave, between the Central Square T station and Foot Locker. The stop is not hard to find, and I think it's well marked.

There's also the Red Line to

By twheaton | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:18pm

There's also the Red Line to Downtown Crossing and the Orange Line from there to Boston Medical Center stop--surely faster than buses when surface traffic is congested, and easier during inclement weather...

the Orange Line doesn't go to Boston Medical Center

By Ron Newman | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:24pm

and hasn't since 1987.

It does go to Mass. Ave. station, just south of St. Botolph Street, but you'd still have a 3/4 mile walk from there to BMC. Maybe you're thinking of the Silver Line bus on Washington Street?

Or the New England Medical

By Mollynotloggedin (not verified) | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:27pm

Or the New England Medical Center.

Methinks twheaton is

By Anonymous (not verified) | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:29pm

Methinks twheaton is thinking of the New England Medical Center stop on the orange.

Mea culpa

By twheaton | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:46pm

Yes, that's what I meant to write--although the Mass. Ave. stop might be closer.

BMC is a long way from NEMC

By Ron Newman | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:55pm

That's a mile and a half walk.

No need for literal geometricism

By Othemts | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:45pm

The term square has long referred to a geographical feature in cities and towns and not necessarily one that is square-shaped. According to the OED, the term has been in use since 1680 and is defined:

An open space or area (approximately quadrilateral and rectangular) in a town or city, enclosed by buildings or dwelling-houses, esp. of a superior or residential kind, freq. containing a garden or laid out with trees, etc.; more generally, any open space resembling this, esp. one formed at the meeting or intersection of streets; (also) the group of houses surrounding an area of this kind. (emphasis mine)

And it's not just New England. London, where the term was first used, has Trafalgar Square and Leicester Square, neither of which is square shaped. Closer to home New York has Times Square and Herald Square for starters, both of which are triangular.

Trafalgar Square is a rectangle

By Ron Newman | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:51pm

or at least pretty close to one.

Boston has a few square-shaped squares - Blackstone Square, Franklin Square, and (since 1969) Copley Square.

Cleveland Circle used to be a circle

By adamg | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 2:59pm

You can see it on this view, if you squint a bit - basically, parts of the circle are now parking lots (the dinky sorta road thing by the convenience store and the actual parking lot by whatever that Ground Roundish restaurant is these days).

Geometric Progression

By SwirlyGrrl | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:31pm

Then there are all the memorials. These often declare random and often inconsequential residential intersections to be "squares". I've seen one lane, one way residential streets deep into neighborhoods labled things like "Private John J. "Lucky" Cannonfodera Square".

I guess they didn't have a convenient overpass for their grief?

Hope his assignment isn't too demanding...

By DoodleBean (not verified) | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:27pm

It's not hard to find the #1 and C1 stops so I'm hoping the guy's posting overseas isn't too challenging. I also found it bizarre that he spent a lot of time wandering around Central Square and didn't ask one person for information.

I'm not a fan of Central, either, but there are plenty of decent people around there. There are tons of high- and middle-end retail outlets (The Gap, Starbucks, CVS, etc.). Surely he could have found someone to help him (yes, I do realize that wasn't the problem...hence my point).

You also have to wonder why he let the bus go by when he finally found the correct stop.

Oh well, my wishes for good luck to yet another Bush Administration staffer! Let's hope he doesn't screw up too badly.

Reminds me of Adam Felber's novel, Schrodinger's Ball...

By EricJay | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:29pm

On the first page, Felber describes our area's roads:

Boston’s roads were never meant to be urban thoroughfares — they intersect at odd, often precipitous angles, with frequently interesting results from an urban-design standpoint. Often, three or four roads will intersect in more or less the same place.

When this happened in an area unburdened with history, landmarks, or valuable real estate, the twentieth-century Bostonians created enormous disks of pavement where the roads collided, which they called “rotaries”...

However, when many roads intersect in places that are historic, landmark-laden, or filled with valuable real estate (a set of conditions that can be best described as “almost everywhere”), the planners and pavers of Boston opted to create Squares. From a design standpoint, this roughly means, “Do nothing and name the place after the principal reason why we can’t have a rotary here.”

Unless it's Powder House Circle

By Ron Newman | Thu, 01/31/2008 - 3:37pm

which happens to be both a rotary and right next to Somerville's most historic landmark, the Old Powder House.

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