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Police protection for the crazy Jesus freaks

Tom Fulry discusses the Jesus people with the cardboard signs who he says accosted him on the mezzanine of Hynes station a few weeks back:

As I walk by them: "All Jews are going to hell. Take your bombs back to Israel or convert to Christianity."

He reported them to a station attendant, who started yelling at them. Now, he writes, they're back in the station, but this time with a phalanx of eight MBTA cops to protect them.

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If you see any mentally disabled people or children in their company, stay away. That's who they usually strap the bombs onto. I'm just sayin' they might be on the express bus to hell before any Israeli's or Jews. And technically Jews aren't supposed to have any concept of heaven or hell anyways, so their ignoramus argument bears little weight.

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And technically Jews aren't supposed to have any concept of heaven or hell anyways, so their ignoramus argument bears little weight.

If this were true, then the Mourner's Kaddish wouldn't be said at every service, would it?

Judaism does have a strong focus on how we live our lives in this world, but there's also a definite concept of an afterlife, although exactly what form it takes is open to debate (just like absolutely everything else).

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Sorry, but there is no heaven or hell concept in Judaism.

Whether there is some sort of afterlife for the soul is up for grabs, but wherever it winds up, its not heaven and its not hell.

I'm sort of new to blogland, but it seems every comment is dissected to hell and the comments wind up so far from the original intent of the blogger that they have nothing to do with anything.

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But if there is no hell, how can the comment be dissected to it? Hah?

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"I could have been arguing in my spare time."

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I can't go to bed -- someone is wrong on the Internet!

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Half of Adam's daily site traffic comes from me between the hours of 10 and 12 at night.*

* This is probably a lie.

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I think I'm confused about exactly what you're asserting here. The concept of an afterlife with a "good place" and a "bad place" absolutely exists in Judaism.

"The place of spiritual reward for the righteous is often referred to in Hebrew as Gan Eden (GAHN ehy-DEHN) (the Garden of Eden). This is not the same place where Adam and Eve were; it is a place of spiritual perfection. Specific descriptions of it vary widely from one source to another. One source says that the peace that one feels when one experiences Shabbat properly is merely one-sixtieth of the pleasure of the afterlife. Other sources compare the bliss of the afterlife to the joy of sex or the warmth of a sunny day. Ultimately, though, the living can no more understand the nature of this place than the blind can understand color.

Only the very righteous go directly to Gan Eden. The average person descends to a place of punishment and/or purification, generally referred to as Gehinnom (guh-hee-NOHM) (in Yiddish, Gehenna), but sometimes as She'ol or by other names. According to one mystical view, every sin we commit creates an angel of destruction (a demon), and after we die we are punished by the very demons that we created. Some views see Gehinnom as one of severe punishment, a bit like the Christian Hell of fire and brimstone. Other sources merely see it as a time when we can see the actions of our lives objectively, see the harm that we have done and the opportunities we missed, and experience remorse for our actions. The period of time in Gehinnom does not exceed 12 months, and then ascends to take his place on Olam Ha-Ba."

from: http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm

So it's not angels-and-harps or fire-and-brimstone, but it sure sounds like a concept of heaven and hell to me.

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Now, if you'd like a comment a little more on topic, the suggestion was made on the original post (before it started to go way south) that the T cops might have been there to protect the public against the protesters rather than the other way 'round. I'm curious enough to be considering going to Hynes this Saturday...

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Even if they do have the MBTA cops on "their side"... so what?

They've got the transit cops.

We control the banks and the media.

That seems a fair trade.

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