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No pink hats in his house

Don Martelli refuses to let his daughters wear pink Sox or Patriots caps:

... They are going to be raised as traditional fans. They wear enough pink so at the very least they can represent our home town teams in the right way. ...

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I am certainly biased, but Don's rationale seems to me to be one of the most reasonable arguments to keep a female family member (or friend for that matter) from wearing the pink hats. I'm biased because I loathe those pink hats.

I suppose its time those of us who feel that way wake up and smell the whatever, because there are about a billion different hats available now. One stop inside the souvenir shop on Yawkey Way will tell you that.

Still… there's something extra awful about the pink hats.

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Fairly reasonable? The guy goes on and on about supporting a team by wearing its original colors. He's not sporting a 1903 hat or rooting for the Somersets. A fan from the 1930s would look at his "authentic" hat and laugh at the poseur. I hope his daughters marry Yankees fans.

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JCS...the point to my anti-pink hat rant is that I strongly believe fans should wear team colors as they are worn on the field or have been worn on the field during the regular season. This is about colors, not logos or jersey designs. Yea, I know the "B" hasn't always been the logo. The first "graphic" on our jerseys was the pair of Sox with the word Boston written on one of them.

So yea, if you can find garb going back to 1908, then by all means, represent. However, was the team on the field back then wearing pink or even camo hats? Have they ever?

I don't think so.

By all means though, please prove me wrong. Prove to me that the Sox wore something other than red, white, or blue colors (or any of those combinations - a small disclaimer here as they do technically wear gray jerseys on the road)

"A fan from the 1930s would look at his "authentic" hat and laugh at the poseur. I hope his daughters marry Yankees fans."

Yea, maybe a fan from 1930 would put his/her nose up to today's hat, but that's only because of the logo and NOT the colors. Why? Because the colors are the same.

And to your point about my daughters marring Yankee fans, that won't happen. Trust me.

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When the Red Sox became the Red Sox, they didn't have blue as part of their uniform color set. Blue is not an "original" color (you posted on your blog: "you should support the team in its original colors". Now you have a CYA disclaimer "as they are worn on the field or have been worn on the field during the regular season". Pink is the new blue, since they aren't "original" colors. In fact, if I recall correctly pink has shown up on Red Sox uniform patches supporting breast cancer research, which is one of the reasons why people buy the pink hats.

You may enjoy these historic baseball cards from the Library of Congress: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/bbhtml/bbhome.html

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You sound like those feminists who shit a cow when their daughter falls in love with Barbie dolls. How about just letting the girl find what pleases her, and not being Dictator Dad?

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Dictator dad? Not even close. You don't know me well enough to bring that statement to the table.

And to the other hater in this thread...red or "scarlet red" was part of the original colors. Blue was introduced as part of the uniform in the early 1900s. As far as I know, pink has never been introduced as an official color of the team or any Boston team for that matter. Your basically trying to nit pick my opinion to the point where it's not valid. But that's the thing about opinions, it's just that, an opinion.

You don't like it? Fine. Cool. I respect that. But it is MY opinion.

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As far as I'm concerned, a team is perhaps the strongest bond between humans outside of family. The team is represented by a logo on the front, which is far more important than the name on the back. If you want to support, or "represent," a team, wear the logo and colors (past or present) that those players wear/wore. Being an athlete, there is something sacred about putting on a uniform in the locker room before a game. When I step on a field in uniform, I am representing my team, the name that appears on the front. As an athlete, every game is about defending the pride and reputation of your team. Furthermore, you have to think back to all the players before you that wore your uniform.

If people want to support a team, they should wear the gear the players are defending every time they hit the field. Wearing throw backs is acceptable because it reminds us of our past and all the players that bought us to where we are.

Finally, Don's parenting skills should in no way be brought into this. If all you know is he hates pink sox hats then you cannot possibly have enough information to tell him how to be a parent. If you do know him and you think he is failing as a parent, this thread is not the place to make suggestions.

Keep it real D.

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I'm not nitpicking your opinion, I took exception your argument and your alleged facts. There is a difference between opinion and argument, just as there is a difference between original and historic. The Boston American League team had blue and white as its colors, changing to red and white when they became the Red Sox around 1908. Either blue is an original color, or red is an original color, not both. They certainly weren't wearing blue in 1910 as the Red Sox. So go ahead, hate the pink hats as your valid opinion, but don't go off blathering about how people should only wear "original colors" when you don't know what you're talking about. I could not care less about your opinion. I do, however, care about accuracy.

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Wow! you slammed the silly anti-pink hat guy and feminists at the same time.

The anti-pink hat guy doesn't seem to understand that MLB and the Boston Red Sox license the merchandise including pink hats. If MLB and BRS didn't want pink hats, there would be no pink hats. Here's a secret: they will make and sell whatever people buy. And so, anti-pink hat guy's fight is really with the team he loves so much he would make a big brouhaha about the color of the Red Sox Hats others fans choose to wear (to Fenway and around their homes.) Imagine making such a big fuss over pink hats, on principle no less.

I suppose the whole point is that it shows just how much he loves the Red Sox and, without a willingness to admit it, how overbearing he is when it comes to his children and people he does not know in matters of minuscule significance except to other pink hat-haters.

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Yes, my beef could be argued that it's against the marketing folks who come up with schemes like pink hats to make more money.

However, for those of you who think I'm overbearing on my children, you really have no clue as to what you're talking about. "Refusing" them to wear pink hats is sorta of a stretch. My youngest doesn't know any better. She's 1. My oldest, 4, CHOSE, the regular hat. My theory is that she knows what daddy wears and wants to do the same. When my wife was going to buy pink hats, she called me jokingly about it and I said, you know my opinion on it. My wife, is also a traditionalists.

So I am far from being overbearing to my kids. For that matter, I'm not being overbearing on others "I don't know."

It's a small opinion about wearing team colors in general. Accuracy JCS? It's a technicality. Blue, red, white, gray, scarlet red, etc...all in the Red Sox palette.

I think opinions stating how horrible of a father I am and how overbearing I am to my kids, is quite immature. You, in fact, don't know that I work very hard to provide for my family - two jobs, flex hours to ensure I'm home at a decent time, doing all the things a dad should do to ensure that my kids are happy and healthy.

Just because I don't like pink hats doesn't mean I'm a bad dad. That's statement or even referring to something similar to it, is ridiculous.

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I take your word for it - "for those of you who think I'm overbearing on my children, you really have no clue" - but in case you think I made it up:

I hate pink hats. I'm not saying that those who wear them aren't fans, but they just have no place at Fenway. [...]

So, being a father of two girls, I basically have banned them from wearing pink hats or similar gear.

Once again, your beef is with MLB, the Red Sox, and if they had wanted a pink hat, your kids becuase I know you wouldn't presume to tell other red Sox fans what color hat to wear. You see there's no tag on the hats in the store that says "these colors are not original and as such may not be worn in Fenway Park."

Your diatribe against pink hats and people who chose them really has nothing to do with what kind a father you are, it was just the angle that everyone one with a father can relate too.

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I think everyone is taking this way too seriously.

Its a hat, its a baseball team, the kids can barely even walk at this point.

In his defense there is a widely cirulcated stereotype that "Pink Hatters" are fair weather female fans who are only watching the games to impress guys...

I think alot of people dislike pink hats because it doesnt match up with what you expect from someone watching a sporting event. I would venture to say that people would have an issue with baby blue, or canary yellow if they were to catch on and become popular with a specific group of hat wearers as well.

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I agree with Bob in the case that this IS about nothing. I just simply stated that I'm not a fan of pink hats and would cringe if my kids wanted to wear them - which they don't. I don't like the yellow ones, baby blue ones, or even the camo ones. It's just an opinion and one that I'm not alone in sharing.

And Bob is right, there is a stereotype out there that these folks are not fans. I would say that it's a mixed bag. I do know of ladies who have worn pink hats and know more about the team than some of my friends. Yea, there is the occasional fair weather fan who is at the park for the social aspect of it and to check out the butts of the players, but for the most part, they are just supporting the team...just like I do, but in a fashion (pun intended), that I don't necessarily like.

At the end of the day though, if selling pink hats and alternative merchandise makes the team a ton of $$, then I can live with that. Why? Because money brings in and keeps good players, which in turn, brings championships to Boston.

And speaking of championships, Go Celtics. ;)

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Go Celtics.

A Game 4 win on the road ought to do the trick.

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I'd rather not have to win ALL our home games to win the championship. The key is to win one on the road. Tonight is the night we get off the stump.

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yes way too seriously

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A pink hat red sox fan is typically female and trendy. However, most are BANDWAGON fans who have just latched on the recent success of the Red Sox.

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"trendy female" ... doesn't sound like "The Wife"

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Why do you think you KNOW ME?

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"A pink hat red sox fan is typically female and trendy."

...and whatever else you are, you are definitely not "The Wife".

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Keep the hatorade coming. I love it. Wait until the article appears this week. THEN I'll get an earful.

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Why would anyone pretend to be me!! Get a life!!!!!!!!!

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Why would anyone pretend to be me!!

I never knew a wife who would let her husband tell her what color hat she could buy and wear.

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She makes her own choices, which in fact, just so happen to align with mine. I'm not a husband from the 1950s.

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