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So Kevin Cullen follows up his hard-hitting column on Boston Police and the death of David Woodman with an inane, took-15-minutes-to-write column about how awful it is that Sox fans chant "Yankees suck." Great, so now Kevin is that annoying aunt who's always trying to wipe your face at family get-togethers with her napkin and lecturing you about how awful kids today are.

Soxaholix says:

... What I especially love about the media castigation is how every anti-chant column has the columnist getting all breathless that he and he alone has discovahed the elusive logical fallacy that "the Yankees, you know, don't really suck so you shouldn't say that they do."

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It is, in fact, a mindless, moronic chant, that makes Bostonians look dumber than Paris Hilton.

I saw this joke on a web page (linked from UH?) a while back, and I knew the punchline before I saw it:

Q. How many Red Sox fans does it take to change a light bulb?

A. YANKEES SUCK!

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Yeah the thing is the Yankees don't suck and the chant is really stupid. I thought it was a good and timely piece by Cullen.

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A good column making a valid point.

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We should have retired it in 2004. We're not the underdogs anymore, why should we still act like we are? It's ridiculous to be chanting 'Yankees Suck' at the NBA Finals...I mean, c'mon.

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"Boston Sucks", their retort. We can hate the team without hating the whole city. And if we suck so much, why do they keep sending their kids here for college?

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Would you guys have the same opinion if Shaughnessy (a.k.a. CHB here on UHub) had written it?

Just a curious question from someone who generally likes Shaughnessy's columns (and man enough to admit it here in the hate zone ;-) )

And please don't turn this into a CHB bash thread, there have been enough of those already.

BTW, I also agree with Cullen.

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I'm all for retiring YANKEES SUCK and chanting SHAUGHNESSY SUCKS instead.

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2004. St. Louis. After Game 4.

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What was the chant, was it CHEAP SHOT SHAUGHNESSY or SHAUGHNESSY SUCKS? I bet it was the latter; I suggested the former.

Since the question is about whether folks should stop repeatedly chanting Yankees Suck, then the fact it is done before really isn't really the main point.

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It would have had at least one reference to Animal House in it, and a couple cheap shots at Manny too.

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Say that 10x fast.

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This is precisely the kind of ridiculous hypothetical that gets tossed about on sports radio. CHB didn't write the article, so why are we speculating on a reaction if he did?

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This is what "discussion" is all about.
The topic was Cullen's article.
People offered their opinion regarding "Yankees suck"
In the interest of discussion, I was wondering how people would feel if someone else, say the CHB, had written the opinion piece. Perfectly legitimate question.
People responded.

The ironic part is that the thread remained relevant to the topic right up until you started whining.

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Merlinmurph's point was that, for some people, sometimes the messenger matters when it comes to forming opinions concerning the message delivered. Not that tough.

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OK, so let's say CHB *did* write the article, and the game was Red Sox vs. the Assembled Choir of Heavenly Angels...

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Da Bears!

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I liked this column. It's long past time to give up this idiotic chant.

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I used to think the chant was funny and appropriate (especially when used as non-sequitor) but it no longer fits. I feel we can respect the Yankees to a certain extent as equals. The Sox have proven they can win a World Series, and they seem to be perennial contenders at this point. I just don't see the purpose anymore. We've exercised the demon, it's time for the rivalry to enter a respectful phase. Plus, we've got these upstart Rays to consider. Really, the Redsox have more in common with the Yankees than they do with the Rays.

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One of the funny parts of the chant is that, to much of the rest of the country, anybody from Boston is a Yankee. I'm sure most folks from Kentucky would appreciate a stadium full of Bostonians yelling "Yankees Suck!" and would want to bring home a bumper sticker.

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Where does he claim that no one else realizes how childish and pathetic a chant that is? I don't see any such claim.

If Red Sox fans are going to reduce sports rivalries to spitting on the opposing team, then they need an "annoying aunt" to tell them how pathetic they are.

Every day I walk past a van which has a bumper sticker that says "I don't brake for Yankees fans." That reminds me of the Yankees fan in my neighborhood who didn't break for Red Sox fans.

It's a GAME!! There is nothing depraved or disgusting about being the opposing team! There wouldn't BE a game without an opposing team!

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The only reason Cullen is doing this is to save face for the unsavory response he received for the column criticizing the BPD for the death of David Woodman (boston.com/...unruly_crowds_call_for_law_enforcement/).

His anti-authoritarianism didn't rub the stayed Globe audience well so he remedied the shallow fanfare by writing this apologetic piece of trash.

Yankees fucking suck and so does this panderer Kevin Cullen.

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Stop chanting Yankees Suck and start chanting Yankees fucking suck.

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...but only when the Red Sox are playing the Yankees. Chanting it at when the Sox are playing a different team, or any other occasion (like NBA games) is just plain old stupid, and makes it seem like the Sox fans still have an inferiority complex.

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In my experience whenever the chant breaks out at a non-Yankees game, it's directed at someone wearing a Yankees hat rather than just starting spontaneously. Which makes it slightly less lame.

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Crowds intimidating out-of-sync individuals is supposed to be a good thing?

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No, it happens in places other than Sox-Yanks games because someone is drunk and thinks it will be amusing as an inappropriate non sequitur (as someone else pointed out above).

In fact, it is somewhat amusing when it shows up in completely random circumstances, but only for a second. Any sarcastic/ironic sensibility is quickly lost, because any humor is lost on the non-Boston-fan observer, and ultimately we all just get thought of as the insecure losers Cullen says we are.

... in summary, he's right - it should have been retired years ago.

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