If you've been looking for a definition of 'putz'

Gnomi provides one in her description of a guy who started arguing with a blind woman about a seat on a C trolley this afternoon.

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Green Line Blues

By Jiffywoob | Sat, 08/23/2008 - 9:58am

This is pretty much par for the course with many T passengers. It's amazing how cranky riding it makes people (admittedly, myself included, sometimes).

But anyone who feels entitled to a seat is way off. I've seen people who put their multiple bags on the seats on either side of them, and pretend they don't notice when infirm and/or elderly people come on. That's three seats taken up.

I've seen people lying down (I hate to be judgmental, but they did not appear to be passed-out drunk, just laying back, relaxed, engrossed in their ipods and their own world). That's four seats.

I could really care less about sitting down; I don't mind standing, but this type of phenomonon creates a situation where others have to stand, and when that happens, people rarely move into the middle of the train to make room for new passengers.

Many putzes involved

By eeka | Sat, 08/23/2008 - 11:39am

It sounds like this guy was being an asshole, but nonetheless it's not appropriate for passengers or the transit operator to ask an individual to give up his seat. Many people have invisible disabilities and have poor balance or get dizzy on trains, and they shouldn't have to explain that. It's appropriate to ask if someone can please give up a seat for this person, but not to tell an individual that s/he doesn't have a right to the seat.

http://1smootshort.blogspot.com

Nope, Just the One

By SwirlyGrrl | Sat, 08/23/2008 - 2:31pm

Nobody demanded that the guy give up his seat UNTIL he lied and said that he was blind. Only then did the pressure mount for him to move.

Had he a disability that merited his use of that seat, he would simply have said something like "I have serious vertigo and can't stand up". Instead he said "NO! I'm blind too!" when he clearly was not. His lie caused others to doubt his occupation of that seat when another needed it, not any "hidden disability".

Yeah, as I said...

By eeka | Sun, 08/24/2008 - 9:36am

The guy was being an asshole, but the blind woman looking for a seat also made a blunder by asking if a specific seat was available. It's more considerate to just ask "are there any seats available?" That way, no one has to explain their reason for not getting up. Notice that the guy first responded by just saying the seat wasn't available and telling her to use another one. She then pressured him, implying why she needed it and he didn't. We don't know whether he was someone with difficulty standing on the train or not, but he shouldn't have to explain himself.

http://1smootshort.blogspot.com

aren't there typically 4 seats in the front of a train/bus

By sheenaspleena | Sun, 08/24/2008 - 11:18am

reserved to elderly/handicapped people?

this guy was lazy, but what about the other 3 seats?

Exactly

By eeka | Sun, 08/24/2008 - 12:31pm

There are usually at least 4 seats that should be prioritized for elders or people with disabilities, plus other nearby seats. People with disabilities aren't exempt from etiquette, and she should have just asked if anyone could help her find an available seat -- she shouldn't have singled this one guy out and put him in the position of defending his choice to sit down. Granted he responded by being an asshole, but any of us might respond similarly if we were constantly asked to give up our seat because someone assumed we didn't need it -- the guy may well be blind, or have poor balance, or get motion sick, or whatnot in addition to having acted like an asshole. Or he might just have acted like an asshole for no reason, but still, he shouldn't have individually been asked for a seat in the first place.

http://1smootshort.blogspot.com

Also

By eeka | Sun, 08/24/2008 - 12:33pm

We don't know he wasn't blind. The blog entry didn't say anything about him passing a vision test during the course of the interaction. Someone can be blind AND be an asshole.

http://1smootshort.blogspot.com

Um, 'scuse me!

By fenwayguy | Sat, 08/23/2008 - 5:27pm

If the only "vacant" seat is occupied by someone's baggage, I generally make a point of asking, "May I take this seat?" 60% to help the perp get over him/herself, and 40% so I get to sit down. I figure it's my duty as a Bostonian.

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