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Boston skyscrapers to go dark after 11 p.m. to save energy.

Wouldn't you hate to be the guy who has to go around all those offices turning off the lights?

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Great, now can we do streetlights next?

By Brett | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:09am

Say, around 1-2AM? Y'know, since car headlights are vastly superior than they were back in the 50's, lights actually encourage crime, and they produce massive amounts of light pollution and waste energy?

Or, how about focusing them better? It's absurd when I can practically turn off the lights in my apartment because the street I'm on is so brightly lit at 3AM. Cambridge seems to have this right on a lot of its streets- there's just enough light to see where you're going on the sidewalks, and what light there is, is focused so that it doesn't spill into people's homes at night, into driver's eyes on the road, etc. Funny thing about focusing them better- you can use less powah, mistah Mayah.

Shucks

By Jay Levitt | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:26am

This city is actually pretty at night. (from a distance.) I can't particularly argue against the measure; it sounds like it'll save a heck of a lot of electricity. It just seems a darned shame, is all.

Relatedly:

- Is this why we got rid of the cool blue lighting that was originally on the Zakim, and that was briefly on the Pru this summer?

- The Old Hancock Building did NOT have a white light at the top until they put one up to color it green for the Celtics win. Right? Or have I been blind?

- Brett mentions focusing. MIT's got some really bright (arc?) lights on their athletic fields, and the sky around them, until 10:30 or so each night. (and, obviously, so does Fenway! But that's NIMBY.) In theory, I would think that a perfectly focused and shuttered light would use less energy - if x% of your light is leaking onto the surroundings, that's x% extra energy, right? But I know zip about lighting. I don't mean to sound like you-know-who, but does anyone know any resources that discuss the topic, especially from a cost POV, maybe with some vendor names?

Old Hancock

By Kaz | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:46am

Are you talking about the blue/red weather beacon light on the top of the Old Hancock building?

Steady blue, clear view.
Flashing blue, clouds due.
Steady red, rain ahead.
Flashing red, snow instead.

When the Sox are in town, a flashing red means the game was called off. They flash the red and blue in cycles when the Sox win the World Series and they colored it green for the Celtics just recently.

That's the one...

By Jay Levitt | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 5:13pm

The red/blue part has stayed red/blue. But, for the Celtics win, they added (?) a green light on TOP of that. And, afterwards, that green light became white, which it still is today.

Which made me think: Did they really install a brand-new light for the Celtics? Or was the white light at the top always there, and I never noticed it till they put the green gel in?

Been there since at least April, 2005

By adamg | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 6:39pm

Proof (not the best photo, but good enough for this purpose).

In my defense

By Jay Levitt | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 7:42pm

Something about Mannheim Steamroller.

Nah, I got nothing. Thanks for turning that photo up, Adam.

Zakim

By Brett | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:00am

Is this why we got rid of the cool blue lighting that was originally on the Zakim, and that was briefly on the Pru this summer?

When the Zakim was "officially" opened, they changed the lights a few weeks later from the blue-purple to some other color, I forget what. Officials said "oh, that was just the TEMPORARY color". Reportedly, the phones nearly exploded with people calling in to complain, and the old gels went back in.

That's what I thought I remembered

By Jay Levitt | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 5:14pm

But now, there's very little light at all, and what light there is is white. Whuhappun?

Automatic Systems

By SwirlyGrrl | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:27am

I'm in a high-rise office tower, and our offices have motion sensor lights. If nobody is around, the lights go off.

Makes perfect sense - and it is great fun to come in in the morning and say "let there be LIGHT!" with a grand hand wave to make it so.

I can understand wanting to save energy,

By independentminded | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:00am

but what would that mean in terms of the crime rate in Boston?

Also, what would it mean for somebody who's out for an evening on the town and they don't leave for home until after eleven? Would it mean that places such as clubs, theatres, etc., would have to close down early? Just curious.

Did you actually read the

By stephencaldwell | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:07am

Did you actually read the article or just the headline?

What's All This Then ...

By SwirlyGrrl | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:12am

I'm tempted to secure the "Emily Litella" login and start posting random misunderstandings of stories, comments, etc.

Oh ... nevermind!

New City of Ember?

By SwirlyGrrl | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:09am

All the lights go out from 9pm to 6am.

Having lived through two complete New York blackouts

By adamg | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:09am

I can safely say, yes, that would suck.

Having read the article, I can safely say they're only talking about turning out the lights in offices in skyscrapers. You know, the places where there generally aren't any people after 11? Except maybe the occasional executive feverishly working deals with Hong Kong, or Tom from the law department and Maria from accounts receivable having their way with each other in the boardroom or something before they take the elevator down to the garage for the car ride home, after which they thank each other for a wonderful time and then go to sleep.

I disagree, Brett. Here's why:

By independentminded | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:13pm

Lights can and do deter crime. A burglar or molester, etc., is more likely to be frightened off due to better lighting, because he can be seen. Entering a poorly-lit parking lot, a dark side street, or into a dark alley, stairwell or hallway will make one more of a target for a criminal because they can't be seen.

Also helps prosecution

By jdj | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:23pm

Any good defense lawyer would question the lighting conditions and how that may hinder the identification of a suspect.

Brett's cited sources all seem to be regurgitations of a single Rutgers University study. The google link also contains studies which find that crime drops under well-lit conditions. Tough to call the security benefits of lighting a "myth" based on those sources.

fact, or personal opinion?

By Brett | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:26pm

Apparently, you can't be bothered to read the sources I cited, or you arrogantly think that your personal opinion trumps repeated studies and direct experience by metropolitan governments. From the Wikipedia entry:

There are no good scientific studies that convincingly show the relationship between lighting and crime.[1] In some cases, lighting seems to deter crime and it makes people feel more secure, but in reality they may be just as secure without the lighting.[2]

Some people are surprised to learn that security lighting is counter-productive. Turning off lights halved the number of thefts and burglary in Övertorneå Sweden. "There is no reliable scientific evidence that outdoor lighting deters crime more than it facilitates crime. There is good evidence that darkness reduces crime." [3]

While adequate lighting around a physical structure is deployed to reduce the risk of an intrusion, it is critical that the lighting be designed carefully as poorly arranged lighting can create glare which actually obstructs vision. Studies[citation needed] have shown that many criminals are aware of this effect and actively exploit it.

I read the links and I disagree with you, Brett.

By independentminded | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:41pm

I went to school on the Fenway for four years during the mid to late 1970's, and the Fenway was not a well-lit area. Crimes of all kinds proliferated--several people I went to school with, both students and teachers, were mugged or assaulted while going home at night after school hours. When the dean of the school got mugged, all the bushes next to the school were finally cut down. Imagine---nothing like that was done when ordinary people, i. e. teachers and students got attacked, but when somebody higher up got mugged (i. e. the dean of the school), something was finally done.

Back to what I was saying, that whole area was poorly lit, and people weren't safe as a result.

Later, I attended B. U., where I'd also work in the studio til quite late at night, and I felt far better when they put big lights out by the building, because anyone with intent on doing dirty work could be seen.

Did you read the sources you cited?

By jdj | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:44pm

Marcus Felson, a professor at the School of Criminal Justice at Rutgers University, has concluded that lighting is effective in preventing crime mainly if it enables people to notice criminal activity as it's taking place, and if it doesn't help criminals to see what they're doing. Bright, unshielded floodlights -- one of the most common types of outdoor security lighting in the country -- often fail on both counts, as do all-night lights installed on isolated structures or on parts of buildings that can't be observed by passersby (such as back doors).

How are street lights "isolated" or "unable to be observed by passersby"? You've taken a study that concludes that in certain specific situations, nightlights aren't effective, and extrapolated that to include all nighttime lighting, no matter where the installation.

jdj: Common sense is necessary.

By independentminded | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 1:52pm

Lights are necessary at night, because life doesn't stop when the sun goes down and the moon and the stars come out, if one gets the drift. In many areas, when street lights burn out or get shot out, they're not replaced, which makes it more unsafe for the residents of these areas, because crimes won't be noticed as easily. Also, one who enters a dark hallway, stairwell, alley, sidestreet, or a poorly-lit parking lot is at much more risk for becoming a crime victim, because s/he can fail to see somebody about to jump or attack them, and therefore become a crime victim before s/he even know what's happening. On the other hand, if areas are better lit at night, it enables a person to actually see what's happening around them, thus enablling one to reduce his/her chances of becoming a crime victim.

Shedding light on confounding

By SwirlyGrrl | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 1:10pm

This doesn't look at whether a better lighted area is patrolled less or patrolled more than a less-well lighted area. If patrols are reduced when lighting is put in, that might be why crime rises - not the lighting itself. It also focusses on property crimes - break ins, etc. - and not hide-and-attack situations.

They also don't consider other aspects of safety, such as slip/trip/fall problems on poorly lit stairs and areas of uneven pavement.

Well, then....

By independentminded | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 1:48pm

All of this:

"It also focusses on property crimes - break ins, etc. - and not hide-and-attack situations.

They also don't consider other aspects of safety, such as slip/trip/fall problems on poorly lit stairs and areas of uneven pavement."

has to be taken into consideration.

Beefed-up patrols are also essential.

I do, however, stand by what I said about hide-and-attack situtations also being something of concern.

Night cleaners?

By cscott | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:52am

I see a lot of cleaners coming home on the first trains in the morning, are they gonna get night-vision goggles?

No need

By adamg | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:16pm

The Globe left out the second part of Menino's evil plan: Implant radar devices in our head so we have to navigate like bats.

A city project?

By fenwayguy | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:16pm

I'd hold onto the goggles.

Is anyone reading?

By Kaz | Wed, 09/03/2008 - 1:21pm

Are you people being sarcastic or just not reading the article? I'm having a hard time telling in some cases.

The program is *voluntary* and involves turning off the lights *above the 30th floor*. And to head off any questions on plane safety, it obviously *doesn't include warning beacons, etc.*

Geez. Unless the criminals are Spiderman, I don't think any of the nonsense being discussed on lighting and criminal activity is going to matter 400 feet up the side of the building.

Now, to something really stupid in this article:

"It would take away from the atmosphere," said Lindsay Madeiros, 29, a finance associate who lives in Lowell and works in a Back Bay high rise. "A city is supposed to be bustling, so having it be dark might take away from that."

Hey, Lindsay, I can probably count on one hand the number of times you've been in the city after 11 PM. You live in Lowell. And Casey Ross, would it have killed you to get the opinion of someone who might actually *live* around there?

Then, finally, the article produces this gem of a comment from Menino's Energy Guy, James Hunt:

But Hunt said lights on the ground floor, where many stores and restaurants are located, will remain on. "We're not trying to shut the city down," he said. "We're committed to maintaining an active and vibrant night life, and that will not change."

You don't have to try to shut the city down, James. You've already accomplished that by having the T stop at 1 AM and forcing all liquor licenses to carry a 2 AM curfew (with a 1 AM entry requirement). Active and vibrant night life? Whatever.

Bright & not-so bright

By Maggard | Thu, 09/04/2008 - 10:04am

I was living in the South End when the Berkeley Building aka Old John Hancock Building was first lit, on the sides - horrible!

Walking down Chandler St. went from being a pleasant walk in pools of streetlight to a flat orange landscape where everyone looked zombie-fied. Worse yet there wasn't any dark anymore, just building-glow. All to light the slab-sides of a not particularly (at night) attractive building!

In return for that great orange glowing monstrosity looming over us we lost any chance of ever seeing a night sky, of leaving the curtains open on a summer night & having a dark bedroom, of enjoying the contrast of light & dark in our neighborhood.

So on quality-of-life issues turn the lights off! It may make a developer all tingly 'down there' to see 'their' building lit up like a christmas tree on the horizon, but to the neighbors it is just another big Bladerunner-like object 'up there'.

As to security lighting, intentional or not, I've seen it go both ways. The Fens certainly saw a drop in crime once folks using it's paths at night could spot thieves hanging out ahead. And parking lots have fewer problems with _some_ lighting, so folks aren't pulling in for a quickie/shoot up/buy & sell illicit substances.

Don't believe me? Live next to an alley in Boston when it's lights go out. It'll become busier then it ever has been, including during the day, before the city gets around to replacing the lights. Get them back on & the needles, condoms, & empty purses stop accumulating so fast.

But so bright you can read a book - no need. Also lighting into folks eyes is counter-productive - dazzling is worse then darkness.

I know a store manager who was robbed recently - he looked out the shop's glass door before leaving for the night, but couldn't see anyone because the lot lights shine right into his eyes there, illuminating the building. He stepped out, and found a gun to his temple, from thieves who had been standing in what should have been plain sight. If he wasn't forced into a deer-in-headlights situation this wouldn't of happened, due to misguided 'security lighting'.

Playing fields lights, I'm in favor of them, but would love it if they were on a timer.

It's great that folks with different schedules can fit some outdoor play/exercise into their 'day', whenever it is. But instead of setting them to be on, used or not, how about putting a big red button somewhere to turn the lights on for an hour or two? Obviously it should be someplace, er, obvious, and lit at night, probably with an emergency phone too, which means many of the parks already have such a stanchion.

A little more complex then a day/night cycle timer, but doubtless it'd pay for itself soon enough.

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