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BU students seek protection from rowdy Brookline residents

Stop the Brookline thugs picking on BU students!

... I suggest the [BU] administration to either make an effort to buy the property or put pressure on the Brookline Housing Authority to monitor the tenets it accepts to 51-85 Egmont St. BU students who live in the Ashford/Gardner area they face a consistent problem every weekend with residents from the Egmont housing projects who come to the area for parties. Police can only take action after fights or vandalism; a greater power needs to step in to keep this from ever happening. ...

It means a lot coming from a student who admits he got his jaw broken at an out-of-control party he threw:

Granted, you put yourself at risk by throwing parties that you lose control of, but still. I'm not Tupac, I'm no Biggy, I'm a 20-year-old college student who pays 50 grand a year to go to BU. I should not be in these situations.

Via Wearing my Fancy Pants.

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1) He is living OFF campus
2) He is under 21, he should not be drinking
3) Many people in Brookline would just assume he not have his party in their town regardless of who goes
4) Did I mention this is off campus, take it up with Brookline kid. If you are a full time resident that means you can vote and you can run for office. Knock yourself out.

Oh no poor little boy, 50 grand a year wah wah wah. Some Brookline thugs are giving you a hard time? Oh man I do wish you would spend more time in other parts of the city! Im a white boy too, dont get me wrong, but seriously the roughest part of Brookline is still pretty damn tame compared to the best parts of other parts of the city. Maybe you should take a trip to NYC (outside of Manhattan), Baltimore and Detroit if you think you have it rough.

Advocating the removal of regular residents of a city so college kids dont have to deal with them, PRICELESS. I love how your upset they are crashing your parties where your drinking liquor while under the age of 21 and presumably serving liquor to minors as well! You should hear what we have to say about you in July when your gone, oh wait Ill say it to your face YOUR A PAIN IN THE ASS, WE REALLY DONT WANT YOU HERE, DO US ALL A FAVOR AND JUST DONT COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER!

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Look, I hate a grammar nazi as much as the next guy when someone goofs up on a word or two, but you used the possessive adjective "your" instead of the contraction "you're" at least three different times in your rant (the sentiment of which I whole-heartedly agree with).

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I think their having too many parties.

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I hate to act like a sycophant,and apologize to the posters for digressing...
but-as I keep seeing your name in various threads- am compelled to ask: are you by any chance Prime Minister PETE NICE (Peter J. Nash)the baseball historian, Hip-Hop icon,documentary filmaker, author, etc. , etc., etc?

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from kids in Kansas....to those who speak spanish....I am not the one and only Pete Nice....only in heart!

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I will try harder next time, your right ;)

Its a good thing I didnt question any of his grammar mistakes lol.

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and not question yours.

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Let me play devils advocate. I have to say that I support the young man in his frustration that "WTF, why are there thugs from the projects beating us up at BU parties".

However, I think it is likely to enhance the maturation process of the college kids to have to figure how to handle parties that can enforce guest lists (or at least, exclusion lists), and handle the idea that criminals and other undesired guests may try to enter anyway. It is the way of the world.

And I think ShadyMilkMan is full of shit on this:

Im a white boy too, dont get me wrong, but seriously the roughest part of Brookline is still pretty damn tame compared to the best parts of other parts of the city.

Look my friend, a housing project is a housing project whether its in Roxbury or Brookline, from what I've seen. Unless it's a new, mixed-income row house development project, which may end up being something different. But you know what I mean. The big, old, projects have some universal qualities. And I didn't care for the racial tone in your comment.

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And I didn't care for the racial tone in your comment.

From the article:

I’m not Tupac, I’m no Biggy, I’m a 20-year-old college student who pays 50 grand a year to go to BU. I should not be in these situations.

My white boy comment was in direct correlation to his comment about not being biggy or Tupac. If you had read his story you would have picked up on that. Ive lived and gone to school in much rougher neighberhoods then the Brookline projects, but Im not Tupac or Biggy either and I survived without having 50,000 a year to spend on school a year. Did you read his essay without coming across with the impression that he was saying Im rich and white and dont deserve this? Thats what I read, so I dont care for you not caring for MY racial tone. BTW , speaking of racial tones, whats your beef with projects? Please dont insult me with your veiled implications of racism.

If the Brookline projects are too rough for him he should move out and find another place to live thats not near a set of projects that predates his tenure at BU. Maybe he should call the police when these "thugs" show up to his party OH WAIT he cant because he is throwing an out of control party that is disrupting the neighbors and is serving liquor to minors, sooo who is dragging down the local community now?

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No, no, all he meant was that he doesn't have a lot of money to pay for damage... or that he's not a natural crime target because he doesn't have gold chains around his neck... or that he isn't going to write a song about it. Really, there was nothing racial going on at all in that comment.

/snark

(Am I the only one who gets the idea that wiring this kid's mouth shut was a good thing?)

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I am writing an article on the Egmont Street Veterans Housing project and I would like to interview any students, residents of the program, or anyone else from the community. I can be contacted at [email protected].

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This article is a joke right?

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I think the writer of the article was being rather facetious there.

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some cheese with that whine...

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As someone who lived AT 51-85 Egmont St., I would like to ask wtf this dude is talking about. The worst these guys ever did was bum a cigarette off me. And even then it was usually more interesting conversation than the party upstairs.

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Did you notice that the local Brookline residents he is complaining about are families of veterans ?

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I'd like to think that "tenets" was a typo. If I did, I'd likely be wrong. Sometimes, spellcheck is not the answer.

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"I pay $50,000 a year", is that supposed to invoke sympathy? What about the people that pay less? Do they "deserve this"? What about people like me that paid more? Did I deserve my own body guard? You live in the "big city" now dude, if you throw a big party, at which I am guessing there is illegal drinking going on, these things are going to happen. Seems like you need to start respecting your neighborhood; when you do, it will start respecting you.

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in any case, this:

Granted, you put yourself at risk by throwing parties that you lose control of, but still. I'm not Tupac, I'm no Biggy, I'm a 20-year-old college student who pays 50 grand a year to go to BU. I should not be in these situations.

is a clear indication of stupidity, which begs a question: Why did the kid lose control of the party that he threw? Secondly, if he thinks he shouldn't be in these kinds of situations, why does he put himself in such situations? He could've controlled the party if he'd wanted to by only having a certain amount of people, and not made it sort of a "catch-all" for everybody around.

To reiterate the full opinions I've already expressed of B. U. students who live off campus who feel a sense of entitlement and think they can do whatever the hell they want when they want, and regularly throw loud, raucous and disruptive parties 'til all hours of the night, relieve themselves or puke all over their neighbors' back yards, and then loudly complain when their neighbors show their antagonism and react accordingly, on another thread on this subject some months back; Little to no sympathy, really.

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College students can be plenty annoying, especially when they aren't isolated. But they've been a part of the fabric of that neighborhood for a long time now, and their interests deserve just as much consideration as the other people who chose to live there.

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The college students live there for 2-4 years and then move on. The veterans and their families are presumably quite a bit more rooted in the community.

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Both of the above-mentioned accounts are true. However, while there are quite afew students who're transient, stay on for 2-4 years, or maybe 1-3 years after finishing school and then move on, there are also many students who've come here from out of state to go to school, find that they really like this area, and want to stay on, but the job market and the housing competitions are fierce.

Yet, I also agree that the veterans and their families are much more deeply rooted in the community.

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Well even if students stick around it would rarely be in areas like the one mentioned. The natural progression over time is either up and out, or closer to the city (thats fairly recent.)

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A lot of parents shelling out 400-500K on a condo for their kids, only to have them live there or sell it when they graduate. Its not common, but it happens. Some of these parents were probably able to pay for the entire education if they bought these condos 5-7 years ago and tried to sell them today.

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if a kid decides that s/he likes this area and wants to stick around, then s/he will have a place to live and not have to look for an apartment in addition to finding a job after they finish school.

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This:

But they've been a part of the fabric of that neighborhood for a long time now

does not mean that college students shouldn't show some respect and consideration for their neighbors, who're often longtime and lifetime residents, and who have to go to work or whatever the next day, and can't afford to and justifiably resent being kept awake at night by loud, drunken parties, nor do these partying students have the right to relieve themselves in, puke all over people's back yards or whatever, or maliciously destroy plants or whatever that a lifetime/longtime resident neighbor has spent lots of time and put their heart and soul into cultivating. All too often, these kids learn too late, and the hard way, that they can't always do whatever the hell they want when they want, and it serves them plenty right.

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Did you just get bored and decide to take a ride in the way back machine?

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to put it a little differently: The college kids who're pulling all this stupid (afore-mentioned) stuff have to realize that when they act stupidly, irresponsibly and in an inconsiderate fashion, it'll come back to bite them in the ass sooner or later.

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