Which neighborhood near North Station would you prefer to buy a 1+ br condo in at this point, and why?

North End
31% (58 votes)
South End
28% (53 votes)
West End
9% (16 votes)
East Cambridge
14% (26 votes)
Charlestown Waterfront
15% (28 votes)
Other (please specify in comments)
4% (7 votes)
Total votes: 188

Comments

Which one doesn't fit?

Since when is the South End 'near' North Station? Perhaps Beacon Hill or Ladder District would be more appropriate?

Interesting

I put the South End because I know people who easily commute from there to North Station area and to Kendall Square. I believe they walk to the Mass Ave Orange Line station, which can go direct to North Station.

I don't believe there are any affordable options in Beacon Hill right now. What is the Ladder District?

Ladder District

The Ladder District is the old Combat Zone. It's basically the small neighborhood between Chinatown and Downtown Crossing. To give you a visual, Felt is in the Ladder District.

Any place to live in Ladder?

Oh thanks, I know that area. Are there 200-300k 1+ br condos in that area? I thought it was just businesses

Stick with Charlestown

Even with the downturn in the housing market, I don't think you'll find much in any of the neighborhoods you list above. Charlestown maybe your best bet for your price range.

Ladder District

Ladder District is between Chinatown and South Station

No condo

I would never buy a condo. That's why I said "Other".

All have problems

North End: cramped, limited supply of good quality
South End: still feels not totally safe, expensive
West End: ugly, limited supply of appealing choices
East Cambridge: old section is run-down, new section feels remote, unappealing views
Charlestown: remote

So what is your recommendation?

Agreed on North End.

Agreed on the South End, it does seem very expensive for an area so under-served by the T, lacking a grocery store, and too dangerous for my wife to walk at night alone.

West End not sure - are they all so ugly? Why? It's such a central location!

Agreed on East Cambridge for the most part, but as the Lechmere T is renovated, I think the area will develop?

Charlestown - are the Navy Yard complexes so remote? There is an MGH shuttle bus to/from there that stops at North Station, so in terms of commuting it may actually be LESS remote than the alternatives? Does anyone know anything about those complexes? And are the housing projects across the Tobin Bridge still the home of misery we've all heard so much about?

What's your recommendation?

charlestown

Hi ya Marc,

Charlestown Navy Yard has about 6 different buildings...ranging from lower end at the Basilica (you can get a two bedroom plus parking for $315,000) to Flagship--which the same sq ft will cost you more like 650k.

-Grace

If you're buying

I was thinking more about personal taste than anything else. It depends on your lifestyle. The South End does have a grocery store, Foodies, and it is very good. Prices are not much higher than at Shaws. Good meat selection, fancy cheeses, but also Cheerios and other staples. Shaws at Prudential Center is within walking distance, I do it all the time.

When I think West End I think Charles River Park. The architecture is what I have a problem with - it's old and boxy, as are most of the individual units.

If you're going to work in East Cambridge and north on I-93 then I think it's an easy choice - go with East Cambridge or Charlestown near the monument. If you have the means, buy in a new building in East Cambridge. Johnnie's Foodmaster in Charlestown is convenient enough to both areas that you can make the long walk or a short car ride. When we lived at Museum Towers we ate breakfast in the Cambridgeside Galleria. Lovely.

The North End is a great neighborhood to live in. You have to go north or south for a supermarket (the one on Cambridge Street is almost too far to walk) but it feels funky and fun and historic. It is extremely crowded in the summer, though.

If you're ready to buy, then buy, but if you're up in the air about neighborhood and prices, I'd recommend renting in one of the behemoths in East Cambridge - the Archstone complex or Waterworks, or whatever it is. Get a six-month lease and wait to see what the spring market looks like.

The South End can't be beat. It has a great neighborhood feel, some diversity, and convenience to Copley Square plus to I-93 North and South & the Mass Pike. Rapes, assaults, and murders are rare. Car break-ins are about the extent of the crime. But, as I said before, it does still have the "feel" of being unsafe, at times. Others would disagree with me, and say they never feel unsafe. Perhaps it is my 20-years of perspective that colors my opinion.

Thanks

Thanks JohnAKeith that was very helpful.

Am starting to put more emphasis on looking in the South End. Cannot afford the East Cambridge towers to buy unless post-sale (condo owners) start to lower prices, which may yet happen. Developers appear to be holding firm. Doesn't make economic sense to rent around there for 6 months - extremely high rents and same moving cost!

Thanks again

I voted

for West End. My second choice would be East Cambridge, but it's a distant second because it's more dependent on specific location around there.

But, curious: why are you asking? Are you buying?

Anyway, why bother?
I thought it was just too tough these days to buy a reasonably-priced condo in Boston.... at least, that's what the Globe's latest pro-seller puff piece wanted us to believe: that one really has to be prepared to lay out a lot of dough to get anything good! < /eyerolling>
;-)

Heh

Interesting. So nobody believes that the Lechmere re-construction will really happen and gentrify East Cambridge anytime soon?

I am asking because I am considering buying. I work in Kendall Sq and my wife works in Lawrence now, so she takes the Haverhill commuter rail out of North Station. Doing this commute from Dedham is fairly horrible.

Yeah we all know the Globe is full of crap. It doesn't take a genius with their finger perfectly on he pulse of Boston's strees to log in to MLS and see asking prices falling. We'll see what happens. If I find a good deal, maybe I'll do a followup post, so everyone can let me know why we made a poor choice ;)

Good luck on the hunt & purchase -

your present commute certainly sucks.

I'm sure John's right about the West End lack of choices, so my vote is strictly a "feel" kind of thing as I'd like to be near Gov't Ctr/Fin District if I were making the choice. I recall there are some nice new buildings in E. Cambridge, but I also would be surprised to see the area as a whole finally rise up anytime soon, so you pays your money, you takes your chances. Either way, you'd improve your (non-financial) situation, and depending on how long you stay, hopefully have an enjoyable city-living experience.

Charlestown

My vote is Charlestown, but not the navy yard. Charlestown near the Tavern, where we live, is a blast.

Grace

Charlestown

Yeah, I was wondering why the poll says specifically "Charlestown Waterfront", when other parts of Charlestown (City Square) are actually closer to North Station.

Need more info

Hi Ron and Grace,

This is great info, the poll doesn't mention other parts of Charlestown because we don't know anything about them. I've never even heard of City Square.

Can you tell me any more about it? How's the public transportation situation there? Are there any affordable managed building condos, or is it all 3-deckers?

Thanks for your advice
-Marc

City Square

is the neighborhood immediately on the other side of the Charlestown Bridge from North Station. It's quaint and charming, but somewhat isolated compared to other neighborhoods. (Not as isolated as the Navy Yard, though.)

Thompson Square is another area of Charlestown, about a quarter mile north of City Square. The area around the Bunker Hill Monument may be worth a look, too.

Really Old T Map Might Help

Both City Square and Thompson Square were stops on the Orange Line when it was elevated from North Station to Everett.

This may be of some slight help. Maybe not.

http://bostonhistory.typepad.com/notes_on_the_urban_condit/images/2007/07/12/bostonelevated001.jpg

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

But don't go to the next Charlestown stop, Sullivan Square

That's too far to walk from North Station, and it's a really dreary part of Charlestown. If you're going to look that far from downtown, you may as well cross over into East Somerville which is a much more interesting and attractive neighborhood. (But you'll still hate the walk to Sullivan square, under I-93.)

There's Malden and Melrose, too

While not walking distance convenient to Kendall, they have stops on the Haverhill Line.

Other than that, I used to work in the Navy Yard and it is quite isolated from the rest of Charlestown. Kendall Square is far more convenient from City Square, which has restaurants and shops and is a 10 minute walk to North Station and an easy hike to Kendall Square by bike.

Near North Station....North End All Day Long

Ok now the reasons.

1. North End is an incredible downtown neighborhood, one of the best in my opinion.

2. Density & Character - This density insulates the value of this neighborhood. Unlike the new "West End" including Strada 234 and other properties going up there...there is no neighborhood/amenities yet which will effect property value.

3. North Station & Transportation - This post was to be closest to North Station right? Although I love the South End as my #1 choice...North End is right there also. Ease of transportation with N.Station/ 93 & even Mass Pike...this is a winning neighborhood right on the harbor!

4. I dont believe the North End has really been looked at as a prime location or prime real estate in a long time...its been overlooked by emerging neighborhoods and our "staples" Back Bay / Beacon Hill. N. End is a winner all day long in 2009!

Feel free to search North End Condos on our site www.Boston.CondoDomain.com

1+ condo

Bulfinch Triangle - lot of new units going up. Mostly rental apartments though I believe.

$$

Of course, none of us could afford anything in any of those neighborhoods anyway... :)

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