Newton alderman: How DARE you mention Somerville in the same breath as Newton
By adamg - 5/15/09 - 8:16 am
Wicked Local Newton posts some video showing some Newton alderman expressing his complete outrage at the mere thought that Newton is being compared to Somerville about something (specifically, Somerville's use of a computer program to track resident complaints) instead of Cambridge, Brookline or Northampton.
... This is the first time I have heard that we need to do what Somerville's doing. SOMERVILLE?!? Why not Everett? Or Chelsea? ...

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Nothing new with this guy....
This is the same Neanderthal who believes "discussions take place on the phone, not on blogs."
I love his shirt
Guess there wasn't enough time to change between the bowling league and the alderman's meeting.
I am going to out myself on
I am going to out myself on here as a politician, from Chelsea no less!
I am the current Chelsea City Council Vice President and I represent District 3 which includes the Chelsea Soldiers Home, and the new loft areas (including the giant white wind mill you may see from the Tobin Bridge.) I have lived in Chelsea all my life, and in my 27 years have seen the good and the bad. Currently Chelsea is known throughout the state as a city that does incredible things with limited resources and a sometimes transient population, and that is something that all cities can learn from in this economic downturn. I also know for a fact that SOMERVILLE is also known across the state for it's innovation and its ability to adapt.
Some people, god love them, have not been to these cities since the early 1980's. I would be willing to put our government up against any other government structure in the state.
Thanks
Guess the guy doesn't get out of Newton much. Maybe there's no official city travel budget anymore now that all the money's going into the new high school.
lol, it happens, bad images
lol, it happens, bad images are hard to shake.
Also thank you for putting the Chelsea ALS walk on the front page last month. I was at the walker appreciation last night and one of the organizers told me they tracked a few donors who clicked through from the link and then went on to donate money!
A big challenge
I've found that once New Englanders form an opinion, accurate or otherwise, there is little hope of ever changing it even if reality meets them square on.
I lived in Jamaica Plain from '98-'07. People I have worked with in North Reading were still under the impression it was the Jamaica Plain of the 1980's and couldn't believe I lived there.
I now live in Lynn. I'm in a safe area that is seeing economic growth even now. There are people in adjacent towns who will still not step foot in my neighborhood of young condo owners with graduate degrees. I think they're afraid of us. They think we're a neighborhood of gangsters! (The educated kind, I suppose). We have arts organizations, good restaurants and a new "Wine bar" and cafe is about to open across the street from me.
I don't have these prejudices because I did not grow up in Massachusetts. I see a city or town for how it is now, not how it was then.
Chelsea is doing great things. I like Chelsea. It has great shops, restaurants and cafes!
Jamaica Plain of the 80s
had a bad reputation? Since I first moved to this region, I've thought of JP as a hip and arty neighborhood surrounded by greenery. And that's going back to the late 1970s.
Yep, it did
Maybe not as bad as the burning-down Fenway, but in 1980, I went on a "field trip" with a sociology professor to look at the effects of "gentrification" in JP (she kept pointing out all the Volvos as proof).
Sort of
There are two JPs in people's minds. The "hip arty" part typified by Centre Street between South Huntington and Forest Hills and the "scary part" going the other way on Centre Street down to Bromley Heath.
I lived in the "scary" part for a while in the late 80's. Luckily for me, all the violence was between waring members of various Caribbean islands who ignored me as clearly none of the above. That area is now full of families and good food but the image of danger stays in the mind of non-residents.
Realistic or not, I currently consider Bromley Heath to be not safe. Hope that changes, too.
I went to high school in
I went to high school in downtown Lynn, and college at Salem State so I'm familiar with the area. Great place, if only the Blue Line was expanded up there, that would be a great economic boon to the area.
Tatiana's is a great spot, Ive been to a few events there, and my high school reunion will be there in June actually. I have not had a chance to visit any of the other new places that just recently opened in the past few years.
Try the Blue Ox
The Blue Ox on Oxford St. is great. Reservations are recommended!
We've had community events at Tatiana's. They've been great to us.
Breakfast at the Capital Diner with Rep. Fennell is always good, too. They're now open on Sundays and feature creative specials.
There's also a new Italian place in East Lynn - Essex off of Eastern Ave called Antique Table that's supposed to be great, with reservations recommended. I haven't made it there, yet. Over that way, we also have Mildred's and Christopher's.
I get upset when an entire city or neighborhood is painted with the same brush. Unfortunately, those negative statements stick in peoples minds, apparently for years, and cause real damage.
I'm looking forward to Somerville's response to the Newton Alderman.
Somerville's rep
I doubt Somerville's the only place that's changed dramatically over the past 30 years, but which hasn't had everyone's attitudes towards it catch up. But it's definitely a prime example.
One of my neighbors told me that when he moved to Davis Square, his parents were horrified: "We scrimped and saved to get OUT of Somerville and raise you in Belmont!" His response: "Ma, that was 30 years ago. The city has changed."
Somerville is not without problems, of course, but in my opinion as a resident for about five years, it's a very well-run city- For example, the 311 hotline, the responsiveness to neighborhood issues, and the generally sane process for building and licensing, make it a very reasonable place to live and do business.
These days the major complaint I hear about our fair city is that it's being gentrified too much.
Another comment from the other side of the tracks
I think people really develop gravity towards particular communities, and unfortunately sometimes in a rather unenlightened way. From the perspective of someone who grew up in Belmont (not sure why we lived there, we were a poor shopkeeper family amidst the lawyers and doctors and professors, but that's another matter...), has lived in Cambridge, Somerville, Medford, and Arlington, and has spent a lot of time in other burb patches all around the 95 ring, EVERY community has their pros and cons.
But that comment about Somerville shows a really sad level of out of touch-ness. Somerville - as well as some of the "lesser esteemed" towns nearby - have amazing cultural and educational things going on for people of all ages. I agree with Matt Frank that it seems as if the Newton alderman has not been to Somerville since the 1980's. He really should go and loosen up over a pint at The Burren.
-Christine Koh
Somerville has Tom Champion.
Somerville has Tom Champion. Kneel, plebeians.
Wait...Newton's a town? I
Wait...Newton's a town? I thought it was a condo development.
Ribbing aside, Somerville is actually very well run. I've actually spoken to my mayor; when I lived in Waltham, I wasn't even sure who the mayor WAS, let alone see the guy in local coffee shops (I mistook "mayor's hours" at Diesel for the guy just trying to grab a coffee in peace, alas).
And I may make fun of Chelsea occasionally, but it seems to be a nice place.
Unfortunately, I've found that often it's less attitudes towards TOWNS that need to catch up and more good old-fashioned racism. We have brown people! There must be crime!
Get this
It's a city.
I know, right?
Somerville's come a long way
Somerville's come a long way from the Slummerville days, but old conceptions die hard. With regards to Newton, however, the only time I've recently heard the two cities mentioned in the same sentence is when someone says something like "Sure, there may be gentrification in Somerville, but at least we're not Newton!"
nice one :)
I find Newton a painfully boring place. However, I am interested in that lake community with its own version of an Italian-American dialect. I'd love to record some of that.
Looking to hear some mush-talk from the lake, divya?
These jivals think it's good to talk like a mush? What the f*ck, kid.
;)
The mayor and police in Somerville are mentally ill
SOMERVILLE SUCKS !
I learned that today through first hand experience. Traveling at 38 mph passing Dilboy Field and a Somerville police officer stops me for going over the artificially low 30 mph speed limit. He claimed I was doing 40. That was a lie. He then proceeds with a song and dance about a tot park nearby while cars fly past us doing 45.
This is typical behavior of Somerville police. I recall when the Somerville mayor declared a snow emergency and the cops ticketed and towed hundreds of vehicles. Just one problem - it NEVER SNOWED during the “SNOW EMERGENCY”. The mayor and the cops in Somerville never learned that snow is cold white stuff that falls from the sky. Are they living in a world of Orwellian newspeak ?
And the "gentrification" consists of people who would rather live in Cambridge and will move there as soon as they can afford it.
Residents of Somerville please realize this fact - nobody needs your city. Somerville is a grubby, worn out tired old place filled with the wastrels and leeches of society. I am encouraging everybody I know to not spend a dime in your rotten city. I could have traveled several routes on my journey today. The next time, I will choose a route that avoids Somerville - and I will never patronize a business in Somerville ever again.
Or it could be that...
...Somerville has cleverly devised a system of trials, to thwart all but the most worthy.
Route 16 is a state parkway
Dilboy Field is on Alewife Brook Parkway which I thought was patrolled mainly by the State Police.
Most people I know in Somerville are quite happy to live here and would not choose to move across the line into Cambridge.
Sooo...
What your saying is that you were knowingly breaking the law and you're upset that they called you on it?
Wow. Congrats. You just earned the douchebag of the day award.
Uh yeah, what Kaz said
It was somehow someone else's fault that you weren't obeying laws? Whaaat?
And double douchebag award for using "mentally ill" to mean incompetent or rude or whatever. I'm sure the fine people in recovery from mental illness appreciate being characterized as mean and heartless and irrational.
Couldn't you at least use a term like, well, douchebag? Or asshat? Or cuntweasel? Or assgasket? Or fuckface? There are PLENTY of creative insults that don't refer to an actual diverse group of people who had nothing to do with your bad experience. I'm pretty sure you aren't going to have the president of the Massachusetts Society of Jackholes calling you out on having defamed them.
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Go take a skid pad course, please
If you did, you would understand WHY the 30mph is NOT "artifically low" given the potential for sudden stops around blind curves in that area.
Any idiot can do 40 mph in a straight line and call himself a good driver - so long as he pretends that he's on a closed course and abandoned limited access highway without crosswalks, sudden stops, turning vehicles, etc. Test your skills on a skid pad with a set of realistic maneuvers and you might learn otherwise when the cones are flying. Of course, this comes at the risk of your self esteem tanking and your fee fees being hurt when you find out that the laws of physics don't play favorites and you are not the "great speedway driver" you seem to think you are. Reality is like that.