Need a job that pays really well? Become a BSO musician
By adamg - Sat, 07/18/2009 - 12:58pm.
Thomas Garvey reports. Of course, there is that whole talent thing ...
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The Talent Thing, Plus ...
There's talent. There's thousands of dollars to purchase instruments. There's thousands of dollars in lessons over a lifetime. There's thousands of hours practicing (and not making any money while you practice).
It's not as simple as showing up and playing a 90 minute program. A lifetime of work and expense is behind those 90 minutes on stage.
Wow
I assumed it was more of a starving-artist thing. Instead, it compares favorably to top high-tech software engineering salaries at top companies.
Talent-, experience-, effort-, and scarcity-wise, I guess the BSO salaries make sense.
Then, looking at the salaries, I begin to wonder how much of their funding is from public money, and what the public gets for that. According to their Web site, 60% of their costs (surplus unknown) are earned, and the remainder is covered by donations from "individuals, companies, foundations, and government agencies." Anyone know what the public cost is in terms of public funds and tax deductions, and what the public gets for it?
Oh hogwash
Please produce a study showing the amount of public money extended to sports franchises.
The Labor Department estimates at least 2 million people work in the arts. The NEA was funded at $122 million this year, with an additional $55 million in grants as part of the stimulus package.
Rounding that up to $200 million, and rounding the US population up to 305 million, that costs approx 65 cents per year, per person.
We should thank the public for it's grand benevolence at bestowing 65 cents on a large group of individuals who are harassed at every turn---starting as "geeks, faggots, and nerds" in high school, right up through adult-hood, when their craft is pilloried as an unaffordable frivolty?
I'd point you to Sweden, which spends over $5 billion a year on arts spending (about 1% of the state budget). The population of Sweden is 9 million.
In summary:
Sweden, population 9 million spends $5 billion = $555 p/person.
US, population 305 million spends $200 million = $0.65 p/person.
Um ...
You didn't answer the question
The question means only what it says.
What is the public funding of the BSO, and what does the public get for that?
Also, Sweden is very different from the US, and they spend a lot of public money on a lot of things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_welfare_state
Garvey's reasoning is
Garvey's reasoning is ill-conceived and exposes his lack of knowledge of the international musical scene in which the BSO exists. The BSO is one of the five best symphony orchestras in the US. I would hazzard an opinion that right now there isn't a better orchestra in the U.S.
Given the scarcity of musicians who can play at this level and the expenses they incure (priced a good violin recently, Thomas?), their salaries are not high at all. Also, the life of a top level orchestra musician is not all cakes and ale. Lots of practicing and rehearsals on a very rigid schedule.
I'd bone up on the facts of the industry first before taking pot shots like this.
People pay a lot of money to see these guys...
Im sure they rake in millions a year in concerts, cds and whatnot...
Thomas Garvey here.
Thomas Garvey here. Regarding "that talent thing," as a frequent attendee at other local symphonies, I can assure you the BSO is not, actually, the only game in town, or indeed the most exciting or interesting game in town. It's simply the most expensive. For sheer technical finish, it's true they're hard to beat. But of course they're subtly wrong for classical music prior to Beethoven, and their interpretations and dynamism aren't always that interesting for later classical music (Zander does Mahler far better, for instance). The musicians are superb - but they often fail to cohere under guest conductors, they're grumpy, and they often look bored. And there are many other musicians in town just as superb as they who are simply scraping by. Indeed, the BSO employs these freelancers regularly - so apparently they are, in fact, quite good enough to play in the BSO! They're just paid less than half as much to do so, with no benefits.
I'd be intrigued to see how "bostonartslover" worms his way around THAT one. He seems to imagine that there is "a scarcity of musicians who can play at this level." But actually, there's not, not really, given the market. The BSO has a list of replacement players for most instruments that's sometimes several names deep.
And while it's true that instruments can be very costly, etc., that's true of many, if not all, serious musicians, not simply the players in the BSO.
My larger point - which these commenters don't seem to have grasped - is that during this downturn, the BSO players are actually doing quite well, better than most of us. So there's no reason to support them with your donations. Unless you feel like giving your hard-earned dollars to people who make more money than you do! If it's classical music you want to support, you can still give your money to wonderful artists who are merely scraping by, if not starving, by contributing to the Handel and Haydn Society, the Boston Philharmonic, the Longwood Symphony, or even the Boston Classical Symphony, as well as local chamber groups such as the Chameleon Arts Ensemble. But don't contribute to the BSO, unless you simply feel like coughing up bucks to support salaries that are essentially about bragging rights, not musical quality.
Education time for Mr. Garvey....
All major symphony orchestras use subs on occasion. I don't think the BSO uses them any more than NY Phil or Chicago or Philly. When you go to a main season performance, you're seeing and hearing the BSO unless someone's sick or has a legitimate reason for not being there. Now the Pops Esplanade Orchestra is another matter.
James Levine and BSO playing Mahler vs Ben Zander and Boston Phil... Hummm.... let me think some more.
When you support the BSO during this downturn, you're supporting the entire organization, not just the musicians. We're very, very fortunate to have such a rich musical life in Boston. I don't see the need to pit one organization against another like this. If you don't want to support the BSO, fine. Would the BSO survive WITHOUT significant support from individuals? No. Move on.
So, Mr. Boston Arts Lover,
So, Mr. Boston Arts Lover, how much money will you be sending these folks who (I imagine) make more money than you do? Just curious. Educate me.
As for "supporting the whole organization" - uh, maybe I don't really WANT to support the whole organization. Surely the first person who should get a pay cut at the BSO is James Levine. Still, the fact that the unionized players have been screwing the freelancers recently I believe makes them rather less sympathetic, don't you agree? Although (before you say it) I'm sure musicians in New York and Chicago are screwing other musicians, too. I just don't see how that's an argument for, or about, anything in particular.
And why not "pit one organization against each other," if that means more equity, and better pay for more musicians?