Cops give law student a first-hand lesson at Allston party
By adamg - 9/9/09 - 11:53 am
Wicked Local Allston/Brighton reports on a party turned mini-melee that left three young 'uns under arrest and two cops in the hospital. One of the arrestees reportedly refused to turn her music down at 3:53 a.m. and told officers she didn't have to do anything; she is a law student.
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I'm a law student
You're also a stupid bitch. I don't get the feeling that's mere coincidence.
I can't wait until a judge tears her a new one in a courtroom.
A law student should know
A law student should know local noise ordinances, which I suspect she was breaking.
"stupid bitch"
is a gender-based pejorative.
I don't recommend picking a fight with police, because it's a criminal offense and for other reasons beyond that.
But the editor of this story has it wrong, "Allston-Brighton crime: Yes, Grossman does have to obey the police." Citizens are required to obey lawfully-given orders, which is not the same as "obey the police."
If a policeman knocks on your front door and tells you to open it or to step out of your house, you are well within your rights to explain that you will have the conversation s/he wants to have while standing in your own home with your door shut. Thus, the policeman's order is not a lawfully given order.
Once you open your door, you have given the policeman the opportunity to claim probable cause to investigate other unlawful acts that s/he may see in progress. Police may enter through an open door into your home or apartment without permission. They may not do that through a closed door because of rights you have in your own home.
As a law student (unless she's 1 L) she should known about noise ordinances. If she didn't, they should have cited them to her after she made her defiant response.
It sounds like this escalated to conflict very quickly. Doesn't the BPD train their officers to deescalate situations as opposed to escalate them?
Both cops ended up in the hospital with back injuries. I hope they'll be ok.
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Noise Ordinances
The police can tell you to turn down the stereo or end other noise that is not within the property line limits.
"Because I'm a cop and I say so" is not a law.
Well yeah
She is female and a stupid bitch. Her buddies are male and are stupid assholes.
Why do you hate her?
You don't even know her.
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Because there's no picture
Because there's no picture for Will, so he can't decide if he'd "Tap That"
Easy
She's a bad neighbor who thinks that the world revolves around her, and her friends think nothing of assaulting police officers. Call me simple, but that's all I need to know.
and yet the lady with the counterfeit coinstar
receipts, you'd like to "bang".
Didn't say I liked her either
I just wanted to play with her big black boobs one time.
perhaps you would like to go post over at
4chan? or maybe craigslist rants & raves?
in other words -- grow the fuck up and start treating people with respect.
You're full of shit
You're usually a good commenter, but to say that I don't treat people with respect is baseless.
Some girls like to have their breasts fondled. And if said woman is not game, I wouldn't force myself upon her.
Who said
...chivalry is dead?
will, i in no way implied you were a rapist.
i have no reason not to think that if you are touching the breasts of some woman, it's with her consent.
however, that said... your language comes across like you have a problem with women. may or may not be true, but that's what's conveyed.
your posts are blatantly disrespectful. that's all.
That's fair
I'm glad you don't view me as a diddler.
I have a problem with women who are rude and disingenuous. They do not have my respect. A woman who thinks that she is above the noise laws and befriends people who hit cops is not somebody that has my respect. I refer to those women as "bitch." As you frequently see, when I read of a male criminal, I call him "asshole." I'm an equal opportunity offender. I don't care what color you are, or what gender you are, or whom you worship. If you suck as a person, you suck as a person.
I don't have a problem with women who are polite and good citizens. They have my respect. If Adam posts a story about a woman saving a person's life, I'll be sure to comment about how great I think she is.
There are better places for discussing your sexual preferences
You might want to find one. I hear Literotica is always looking for writers.
Mr. Tulip claims to be a law student, but....
...I was not aware that law schools were now admitting students directly from middle school.
HAHAHAHAHA
I should have put "I'm a law student" in quotes referencing the "hero" of our story.
I've been done with school for some time.
ok, yeah, you're simple
ok, yeah, you're simple
Fine by me
I'll be someone you love and understand.
But they were just having a few beers!
The police entered without permission! I heard it directly from one of the innocent snowflakes! Their civil rights were violated! Harrassment, that's it -- just because they're LAW STUDENTS, they're being harrassed by the same people that cried they can't sleep with their downtown windows open at night because of south street diner. They're the pricks who think the whole world revolves people who've lived in Allston for the last 25 years. Anyway, who the hell sleeps at 3:53am in this jerkwater town that isn't even New York?
They should have learned from Will...
Clearly these two yahoos have never seen Good Will Hunting. One of my favorite lines: "You hit a cop. You're going in."
How do you think these two schmucks would handle being in the jail with the best view in America? Sorry, but I can't pass up the chance to give a hint using another line from GWH: "You wanna piece a my ass?"
Also, a noise ordinance is not the issue here. These imbeciles have far, far bigger and more expensive problems than a civil citation for violating a city ordinance.
One more thing. Not to defend the indefensible (Ms. Grossman, you are going to have a hell of a time with the "moral fitness" portion for admission to the bar), but I am unaware of anyone who has attended law school and ever taken a class on the City of Boston's noise, or for that matter, any other ordinance (except zoning and other development related ordinances). That's generally the type of thing that you don't even hear about until you're in practice, and most lawyers in the city couldn't even tell you where to find the City's ordinances.
Therein lies the rub
The biggest flaw with law enforcement is that the cops aren't always clear on what the laws are. Unfortunately, neither are most of the citizens. The schools should teach what the laws are instead of cursive writing and cell mitosis and all the other useless garbage that was crammed into my head from age 10 until age 18.
stupid law student
Until the City of Boston cracks down on these "silver spoon" idiots and the landlords who rent to them, the quality of life for residents, who pay enormous real estate taxes, will continue to go down the tube. No wonder all the real Bostonians are moving out of the City, and the idiots and Yuppies are moving in. Boston's turning into New Orleans.
pretty offensive
Renters and students are not second class citizens. Being a bad neighbor is not exclusive province of renters, students or students who come from a background of wealth.
Too many people of color for your taste? If so, that's pretty offensive.
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There are too many people of color
100% of the people of Boston are of color. I myself have a pink hue, with a darker overtone than many from many summer days at the beach.
tits
on a bull.
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