What should WCRB's new owners replace classical with?

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Replace it with classical

By eeka | Mon, 12/19/2005 - 5:07pm

They should replace it with actual classical music that classical music enthusiasts would like to listen to. It's a shame that Boston, which is supposed to be such an arts and culture center, only has one 24/7 classical station, and the one station only plays classical top-40. Or more like top 5 or so -- they've got a couple of Haydn and Mozart divertinades on a loop and that apparently constitutes classical in this city. They frequently don't even play the entirety of the piece; they just play just the "hey, I've heard that melody before!" movement as a standalone. Blah.

http://1smootshort.blogspot.com

I'm so glad you mentioned

By Peter (not verified) | Mon, 12/19/2005 - 6:13pm

I'm so glad you mentioned this. The classical programming on WGBH and WHRB is fantastic, but it is limited mostly to daylight hours. Losing WCRB is regrettable if only because we'll lose BSO broadcasts from Tanglewood. The rest can be replaced with one of those "World's Most Relaxing Classical" CDs.

Hear, hear

By Tim Jarrett (not verified) | Tue, 12/20/2005 - 1:10pm

Absolutely agree. If you want to understand the devolution of classical radio in this country, look no further than the same programming malady that has swept the rest of the radio industry.

I can't help but think that programming outside the 18th-19th century box--early music, Shostakovich, Ives, any living composer--during prime listening hours could only broaden the audience. Hell, look at the surprise classical bestsellers of the last decade or so: Chant, Gorecki's Third Symphony with Dawn Upshaw, Arvo Part's Te Deum. All outside the mainstream (yes, of course, because they're surprises they are outside the mainstream by definition. Work with me).

Great editorial on this topic, Drawing the Classical Line, that I can't recommend highly enough.

Whoa - where did all these Conservatives come from?

By Provincial Congress | Tue, 12/20/2005 - 12:02am

75% - leave it alone, you bastards!

Classical!

By prwood | Wed, 12/21/2005 - 2:28pm

We seriously need a good classical station around here. What with the BSO, Berklee, NEC, Emerson, etc, you would think there would be more demand for it.

I used to live near Columbus, OH, and Ohio State had an excellent public classical station, Classical 89.7. I miss that. :-(

WCRB Once Had A Bulletin Board

By Laurence Glavin (not verified) | Thu, 12/22/2005 - 6:12pm

WCRB.COM once had a bulletin board that was filled with comments like the ones above. They deleted it because they feared advertisers would read it. Cut off from actual and potential listeners, they became the radio station in a bubble, smug and satisfied with a rating close to that of an Oldies station, which in fact it really was.

That's all, folks!!

By Anonymous (not verified) | Tue, 12/27/2005 - 1:31pm

With a $90 million sales price, and all they billed was around 8 million, there is NO way that this will stay classical. For advertisers, it's a great station with loyal listeners - but it will never reach the revenue needed to recover the price tag. WGBH should consider going all classical instead of replicating most of WBUR's programming. I doubt that WGBH-FM bills even close to 8 million per year.

Real music, real radio

By Chowderhead (not verified) | Mon, 01/02/2006 - 12:34am

Losing WCRB is really no great loss. Losing the bulk of quality NPR and local programming on WBUR a few years ago was pretty bad. Mo more Tony Cennamo, Marion McPartland, Mountain Stage, Steve Elman's Spaces -- now all we get is BBC World News, over and over and over. Might as well be 100% evangelicalism for all the cultural good it contributes to this community. BOOOOR-ANG. And the same goes for CRB. See ya.

Chowderhead

Claasical crash dilemna

By Sirius convert (not verified) | Wed, 12/28/2005 - 1:03pm

WCRB might as well be the first station to fashion my format-
Satellite radio review- mission: Provide timely/insightful overview of programming available on satellite radio.
Morn. Drivetime - Aft. drive live programming: On air personality
reviews featured programming available on XM & Sirius. Occasional
guests- Celebs, DJ's, media & music critics, satellite radio converts,women with great radio voices !

Evening programming would replay days satellite feature events and
sell commercial time/ adds.

C'mon, if Charles L. can play "Bobby Darin's Greatest Hits" straigh thru on Hawaiian radio and "Skating with the Stars" gets on prime time TV, there's a shelf life for anything you can imagine!!!!

Bring it on- BPilgrim

The best classical station in the country

By Anonymous (not verified) | Wed, 01/04/2006 - 2:18pm

I travel the US extensively and always look for the classical station in whatever city. WCRB is by far the very best in comparison. I live in Chicago and I wish we had a station like CRB. The classical stations here are just terrible. Boston should not lose this jewel.

WCRB Programing

By Anonymous (not verified) | Thu, 01/05/2006 - 4:54pm

I've read many comments like these before.
Many of you thinks WCRB doesn't play what I want to hear OR WCRB only plays the top forty classical pieces.

I've worked there and asked the same questions and the response is WCRB Hires people to do focus groups and the results are the same time and time again Most of the listeners (around 85%) don't want long pieces, Or newer pieces they want Mozart, Bach, and such.

It seems most of the listeners aren't as dedicated to Classical.

Maybe YOU experts should apply as program director or go to the BSO and apply as guest conductor.

WCRB: some historical perspective

By Mark Colby (not verified) | Thu, 01/05/2006 - 10:08pm

Regarding the claims of "Anonymous" that WCRB states that its focus group results indicate that listeners don't want long pieces and want composers like Mozart and Bach, I would like to provide some historical perspective. I lived in Boston from 1975 through 1987 and then again from 1994-97 and listened to WCRB literally every day all day except for brief excursions to WBUR (which broadcast classical music at the time), WGBH, and WHRB. From 1975 through 1987, WCRB broadcast long works on a daily basis, regularly playing relatively common symphonies by Mahler and Bruckner, along with rare ones like Furtwangler's Second. So the claim that the Boston audience doesn't want long pieces and familiar works by Mozart, etc., is, or at least was, false. Moreover, the station did not have the practice--all too common now--of having hourly blocks in which to fit compositions, so it had a time format permitting the playing of 90-minute symphonies. The station also regularly played obscure and lesser-known works, both short and long, by composers like Bax and Hanson. By the time I returned to Boston in 1994, the station had hired Mario Mazza, who decimated the classical programming at WNCN in New York City, and who proceeded to do the same at WCRB. The station that many of you who are posting here are describing is not the WCRB of 1975-87; it is a dumbed-down travesty, content to play the same overly familiar "warhorses" and cheerful minor works, all because Mazza's reign pandered to corporate greed and sought to increase revenues by sacrificing quality and depth in favor of superficiality. This policy destroyed WNCN, and has done the same to WCRB. The Boston audience may now no longer want longer works, as Anonymous says, but that may be because the audience hasn't been exposed to a wide range of longer works. (The audience would have to listen to WHRB for that.) As for WCRB's reliance on focus groups, they didn't even exist during WCRB's glory years. The station valued quality and a small but loyal audience, along with the relatively small but stable profits that that audience made possible. When compared to this former WCRB of the period I described, the WCRB of today is scarcely worth preserving. I'm saddened by its imminent loss, but the fatal blow was already inflicted when Mazza was hired.

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