Her occupation lends itself to a higher risk of violence. If she was a police officer off duty at home, would it be woman found murdered or police officer found murdered? would you have the same objection?
You have a few words. Ask yourself - what's essential? Someone's daughter is dead, and she was found in Everett. That's what you need to know. The article is there to tell you the details. "Dead Stripper" makes her sound like meat. I know Adam didn't intend it that way - words are just funny like that.
There's also a difference between
Dead Stripper Found
and
Stripper found dead
Was a dead stripper lost and then found? No. She was murdered, and then found.
Beyond her particular job - yes it does bother me when the headline says "Truck drived arrested for rape." If his job had nothing to do with his alleged crime, then his job doesn't belong in the headline. There's a difference between mentioning the job in passing - within the article - and putting it in the lead.
The job *can* belong in the headline even if it's unrelated to the alleged crime. I'm thinking at least initially about jobs that are directly of the public's interest.
For example, which is more informative and important?
a job can have a lot to do with the story of a crime -- be it the job of the perpetrator or the job of the victim. if the mayor is either one of these two things, it's big news.
i think the problem i had with the original headline adam used is that it reduced this woman to *only* her occupation. she was human first, a woman second, she somebody's daughter after that, and i would like to think that the fact that she was a stripper was even further down the line of how she should be identified.
you don't give up your personhood when you start taking off your clothes for money.
A mayor is a public figure, and is not being identified as a person in a particular profession, but as an individual who happens to be a mayor. "Mayor" is not a profession, like plumber or dancer. There's only one for each city, and they choose the public spotlight.
You may be able to find an exception, but the general rule is, if it's not immediately relevant, leave it out of the headline.
not as high as, say, prostitutes who do outcalls or get in cars with strangers, but higher than women who do not work in the sex industry.
there is a bunch of research on it. once you start working in industries that marginalizes you in any way, you are more likely to be a victim. add in to this some explicit sexuality and objectification, and the risk of victimization gets higher.
A higher risk of crime. If you cannot see that strip clubs bring a higher risk of crime, then you are a bit delusional. I would say a higher risk of crim than most any legal occupation.
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I prefer Woman Found
I prefer Woman Found Murdered.
Seconded
What she did for a living may lead police to her killer, but it isn't relevant otherwise.
Done
Changed.
I dont know
Her occupation lends itself to a higher risk of violence. If she was a police officer off duty at home, would it be woman found murdered or police officer found murdered? would you have the same objection?
You have a few words. Ask
You have a few words. Ask yourself - what's essential? Someone's daughter is dead, and she was found in Everett. That's what you need to know. The article is there to tell you the details. "Dead Stripper" makes her sound like meat. I know Adam didn't intend it that way - words are just funny like that.
There's also a difference between
Dead Stripper Found
and
Stripper found dead
Was a dead stripper lost and then found? No. She was murdered, and then found.
Beyond her particular job - yes it does bother me when the headline says "Truck drived arrested for rape." If his job had nothing to do with his alleged crime, then his job doesn't belong in the headline. There's a difference between mentioning the job in passing - within the article - and putting it in the lead.
That depends
The job *can* belong in the headline even if it's unrelated to the alleged crime. I'm thinking at least initially about jobs that are directly of the public's interest.
For example, which is more informative and important?
Mayor identified as shooter
or
Man identified as shooter
So, it's not always cut and dry.
kaz, i mostly agree with you... sorta.
a job can have a lot to do with the story of a crime -- be it the job of the perpetrator or the job of the victim. if the mayor is either one of these two things, it's big news.
i think the problem i had with the original headline adam used is that it reduced this woman to *only* her occupation. she was human first, a woman second, she somebody's daughter after that, and i would like to think that the fact that she was a stripper was even further down the line of how she should be identified.
you don't give up your personhood when you start taking off your clothes for money.
adam, i appreciate the change you made.
A mayor is a public figure,
A mayor is a public figure, and is not being identified as a person in a particular profession, but as an individual who happens to be a mayor. "Mayor" is not a profession, like plumber or dancer. There's only one for each city, and they choose the public spotlight.
You may be able to find an exception, but the general rule is, if it's not immediately relevant, leave it out of the headline.
Really?
Strippers have a higher risk of violence (than whom)?
That may be true, but I personally wouldn't assume so.
She worked a club, not the streets.
strippers have a high rate of violence against them.
not as high as, say, prostitutes who do outcalls or get in cars with strangers, but higher than women who do not work in the sex industry.
there is a bunch of research on it. once you start working in industries that marginalizes you in any way, you are more likely to be a victim. add in to this some explicit sexuality and objectification, and the risk of victimization gets higher.
perhaps I was too narrow
A higher risk of crime. If you cannot see that strip clubs bring a higher risk of crime, then you are a bit delusional. I would say a higher risk of crim than most any legal occupation.