Get off the phone? Why?

Jeff Egnaczyk just doesn't get why people get so upset at other people talking on cell phones on the T:

... It's possible people get upset at others engaging in conversation when they're stuck on the miserable B Line without anything to do. Maybe they get the impression that the person is flaunting his or her importance instead of their wealth. I don't know. It really is a stupid thing to get mad about.

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Shuddup.

By Brian McFaden (not verified) | Fri, 04/06/2007 - 9:11pm

It's because phone-talkers have much less of an idea of how loud they are talking. Talking to someone in person involves a certain amount of feedback that is lacking in cellphone conversations.

As a lame phone-conversationalist, I know the differences. And as a human being who uses the T, you should too. It's not all about you, asshole. Shut up, or go away.

I concur

By New_Roz_Guy | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 7:24am

A little volume modulation goes a long way. I don't want to hear about your personal life.

Ubiquitous

By Fornya (not verified) | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 8:00am

The problem is that people use their cell phones EVERYWHERE! On the T, in restaurants, in the car, on the planes… It never ends. Some of us remember the days when we weren't ALWAYS available. How about a little discretion? Just a little?

People talk a lot about the offense of second-hand smoke, how about the offensiveness of second-hand cell?

Tell me about it. There was

By Angered Restaurant Patron (not verified) | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 9:17am

Tell me about it. There was a dumb B***h when I was in Legal Sea Foods at the Northshore Mall (in Peabody) who had the nerve to take an incoming call.

People need to be reminded about proper subway, restaurant, and even classroom etiquette and shut the things off whenever they are in such places.

Oh, and to all the crackheads that try to secretly contact their dealers: Big Brother is listening, you'll get busted soon.

It's just plain rude

By Jim Sullivan (not verified) | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 10:14am

People go places to do whatever it is that is done at that place. They go to a ballgame to watch the game - not listen to other people making phone calls. They go to the museum to see the paintings or look at the exhibits - not listen to other people making phone calls. They go to the beach, to an amusement park, for a walk along the Charles - well, you get the point. The people making cell phone calls are just plain rude and not at all willing to think about the other guy.

But ...

By adamg | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 10:16am

One of the original poster's points was that we don't get upset at people having a conversation on the T; a cell chat is the same thing only you only have to overhear half the conversation. Then again, cell users do seem to be louder than normal in a lot of cases.

Phone conversations and face to face conversations are not equal

By Jen Stewart | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 11:41am

Face to face conversations don't come with annoying novelty rings set at the highest possible volume. Face to face conversations are usually (but not always) less intrusive, volume-wise. Face to face conversations don't take 4 rings for some idiot to pick up and say hello.

People who are having face to face conversations don't seem to be as completely clueless as to the content of their conversation as people on cell phones are.

Face to face conversations don't involve the sheer lack of awareness of one's surroundings that cell phone conversations do. I've been very nearly hit by 5 cars in the past year. All were manned by people yapping into their cell phones, not by people talking with the person sitting in the passenger seat. Know why? Because the person in the passenger seat would've been yelling, 'Look out! There's someone in the crosswalk!' The person on the other end of the phone can't do that for you.

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Jen Stewart

Yeah--and people go to the movies to watch the movie.

By independentminded | Sat, 04/21/2007 - 10:31pm

It's outrageous that people use their cellphones in the theatre--during films, no less. However, on a more positive note, there are theatres where the staff has cracked down on that practice and require people to shut off their cellphones in the movie theatre.

If I'm sitting next to - or

By Arborway | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 11:42am

If I'm sitting next to - or worse - across the car from you and I can hear your conversation over my iPod, then it's a problem. More often than not, this is exactly what happens when someone uses their phone on the T.

The other day, I was stuck riding the B Line inbound during morning rush hour while sitting in the single seat Breda's have to the left of the stairs leading from the low-floor area, when a young woman got on and stood on the stairs, turned sideways and leaned over the railing about a foot over my head while she loudly discussed her relationship issues for the next half hour.

Not too long before that, I sat in one of the jumpseats in the articulated section while a similar young woman stood to face the picture window directly behind me as she yelled into her phone while for forty minutes while eighteen inches from my face.

Dare I discuss the man loudly engaging in contract negotiations on his Bluetooth headseat to the point where the entire train was privy to the likely confidential details of the entire matter?

These are just a small sampling of what happens when people use their cell phones on the T, but it is pretty much the way it plays out on a daily basis. Nobody wants to hear you yell into your phone, and despite what you may think - you are almost certainly talking much louder than you need to.

There are two types of people than can really be counted on to ruin your commute, the two people who get on a dead-silent train and engage in an unnaturally loud conversation, and those who feel as though they must subject others to their cell phone conversations. Both types suck, and I'm not too thrilled that being courteous with cell phones is anathema to most people these days.

Yes, the people talking about private matters...

By eeka | Sun, 04/08/2007 - 12:48pm

This also doesn't happen (much) in face-to-face conversations, because the other person is going to tell you "shut up, we're on the T" if you start talking about confidential stuff.

I actually find it really intriguing when I'll hear someone on the T pick up their phone and say "oh, hi...yeah I'm in my car [at home, in the office, whatever]," then start talking about fairly confidential stuff. You jackass. I feel uncomfortable enough when I hear someone shouting about personal business that I don't want to be hearing, and it's even worse when I know that the other party thinks the conversation is taking place in a private space.

Also, as someone who does have to take confidential emergency calls sometimes (I'm a therapist), I definitely notice the other people on the T who are in the same boat. We talk quietly and we're cryptic, using people's initials or referring to "the individual in the house who stays home during the day" or "the second medication you just listed."

It's too bad we don't all have a legal obligation to protect private information.

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Why it's annoying to listen to a cell conversation...

By cyberboston | Sat, 04/07/2007 - 1:12pm

In most cases I'd rather be subjected to a conversation between two people near me than one person talking on a cell phone.
Two reasons:
1) First, cell phone users talk louder than necessary. If they were talking with someone in person, usually they would talk more quietly.
2) There is something disconcerting - I can't quite put my finger on it - about hearing one end of a conversation. There's something peculiarly annoying about it. It's like a disembodied conversation that you have to overhear because you're near the person. When there are two people talking in person, there's a natural give-and-take that our ears are accustomed to. When one person is talking into a device and you can't hear the other one respond, it's uncomfortable to listen to.
Do others agree? Know what I mean?

I bought these as a joke, but...

By Jen Stewart | Sun, 04/08/2007 - 10:06am

A while back, I bought these from some store in Copley. But y'know? Maybe I should actually USE them.

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Jen Stewart

We're doomed

By tblade | Sun, 04/08/2007 - 12:23pm

People will never learn cell phone ettiquitte.

A note to self absorbed cell phone users - stop talking on the cell phone when interacting with people who want to help you. I used to work for the big fancy coffee chain and so many people would come up to the counter and with there cell phones and try to order. Rude a-holes, almost all of them. We would go out of our way to screw up their orders. You want decaf - here's full caf. Non fat - here's your whole milk. Left your umbrella in the cafe? Haven't seen it.

This works without fail

By Jake (not verified) | Mon, 04/09/2007 - 1:13pm

This works without fail every time: carry a notepad and pen with you at all times. When someone starts yapping away, pull them out, give them your undivided attention, and start scribbling away. You'd be amazed at how fast it shuts most people up. And of course, if anyone makes a stink, just remind them that their conversation is a matter of public record and they shouldn't mind someone trying to preserve it for posterity.

The people who Adam

By Jeff Egnaczyk (not verified) | Mon, 04/09/2007 - 5:36pm

The people who Adam responded to don't seem to get it. I will, however, concede that talking loudly on a cell phone is annoying.

But what I really think is that you're all just curmudgeons. Curmudgeons!

I'll cop to that....

By Jen Stewart | Mon, 04/09/2007 - 10:21pm

Damned kids! Get off my lawn! And shut your cell phones off while yer at it! *grumble*

Heh.

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Jen Stewart

The only legitimate reason to use a cell phone on the T

By independentminded | Sat, 04/21/2007 - 10:10pm

is if the MBTA train is delayed for whatever reason for an unusually long time, thereby making one's being late to work, an appointment, to school, or to meet someone inevitable. In the event that it's necessary to make such a call, the call should be as brief as possible.

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