If you had a vote in today's Republican New Hampshire primary, for whom would you cast it?
By Suldog - 1/10/12 - 11:19 am
Newt Gingrich
1% (7 votes)
Jon Huntsman
30% (178 votes)
Ron Paul
39% (231 votes)
Rick Perry
1% (6 votes)
Mitt Romney
14% (82 votes)
Rick Santorum
3% (19 votes)
Write-in or Other not listed
12% (74 votes)
Total votes: 597

Comments
Buddy Roemer
Unfortuntately never had a chance to fully vet him - who knows - could have some skeletons like Cain, but heard him on Dan Rea one night and he made more sense than anyone else.
Of those listed I think Huntsman is the most moderate and sensible and then Romney - but I'd have a hard time ever pulling a lever for that guy again after the way he gave up half way through his term as governor here to start running for president.
I might vote for Vermin Supreme before I voted for Romney (he's on the Dem ballot too I think).
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/democratic-presidential-candidate-vermin-supreme-one-more-40-photo-221054372.html
If you love big goverrnment liberals vote Huntsman!
If you love Obama and Romney but without the charisma vote Huntsman.
If you love big bankers puppets and goldman sachs vote Huntsman.
If you want to vote for a return of the America of freedom liberty peace and prosperity.
VOTE RON PAUL!!!!
For once in your life wake up and dump the status quo loosers who your media masters approve FOR you. Stand up and be an AMERICAN PATRIOT.
RON PAUL 2012!
I can't stomach Obama or Romney, but
Ron Paul is a dangerous guy. If the winds of chance ever turned and he got elected POTUS, we can say farewell to the EPA and other agencies that enact necessary regulations and control of corporations. It's bad enough that these agencies were all but killed off by the Reagan Administration and that the Glass-Steagall Act, which prevented the big banks from engaging in run-away behavior (if one gets the drift), but a Ron Paul Presidency would make already-awful situations a whole hell of a lot worse. He's totally against a woman's right to choose, as well, so a woman's right to choose, too, would totally go down the tubes. (not that it hasn't been compromised, as it is)
If you love Obama and Romney
If you love Obama and Romney but without the charisma vote Huntsman.
If you love big bankers puppets and goldman sachs vote Huntsman.
If you want to vote for a return of the America of freedom liberty peace and prosperity.
VOTE RON PAUL!!!!
For once in your life wake up and dump the status quo loosers who your media masters approve FOR you. Stand up and be an AMERICAN PATRIOT.
RON PAUL 2012!
Paul
doesn't have a monopoly on Patriotism.
But I do agree that the GOP needs someone fresh. If anything to get the civil war over with so they can turn around the parties radical reflexiveness and become a true conservative party once again.
Loosers
I like Ron Paul, and plan to vote for him in the MA primary, but you do him no favor when you misspell "losers" (not to mention missing the capitalization of Goldman Sachs, and the possessive on "banker's".) It also looks like crap to post the same screed twice.
I mean this in a kind way. If you're going to support someone, it's best to do so in a fashion that can attract no criticism beyond the issues :-)
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Misspelling is the best way
Misspelling is the best way to support a man who wants to do away with the Dept of Edu. As Ralph Wiggum once said "Me fail English...that's unpossible"
Dept of Edu
See above.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Wait, I got one --
If you would eat a delicious-looking chocolate cake that's had a little bit of dog poop mixed into the batter, vote Ron Paul!
To each his own
Spenser,
While you're entitled to your own opinion of Dr. Paul; don't forget that you're not going to find a single candidate you agree with fully. So to use your analogy, no matter who you vote for, your cake is always going to have at least some "dog poop mixed into the batter."
Dr. Paul has a consistent record to stand on when he speaks about issues he feels are important to this country. I have yet to see any modern candidate with such a consistent record. It is also refreshing to me that his record is very much in line with the supreme law of our country, the Constitution.
Restore America Now.
Ron Paul 2012
You Missed the Point...
... Which is that Ron Paul supports allowing dog poop in cake, because hey, the free market is run by Jesus or something.
True I guess
Romney's like a half-vanilla, half-chocolate cake with really artificial frosting that tries to please everyone but is still full of poop. Santorum is 90% poop with a frothy-mix icing.
Obama's like a cake that you thought was going to be the best cake you've ever eaten. It turns out to be just OK but it's still better than the alternates that are made with poop.
Another
If you believe government like the Sudan will lead to prosperity like Sweden, vote Ron Paul!
Here's one for ya, Suldog
This is what a libertarian looks like.
Even I would write this guy in.
Johnson was, of course, shuffled off the GOP bozo bus before he could get smart ... so he is now running as a Libertarian.
Gary Johnson
Fine, principled man who actually has accomplished much in the war against The War On Drugs. Thanks for giving him a plug, Swirly.
(Full disclosure: I intend to vote for Ron Paul in the MA primary, assuming he is still in the race. However, should a miracle occur and Paul actually obtain the R nomination, I will then be torn between he and Johnson for the general election.)
(Yes, I know. I've never yet voted for a winning presidential candidate, and I've had a vote since 1976. Make of it that what you will.)
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
You forgot one candidate
Barack Obama
Really?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I really thought the current president is a democrat. If he did indeed switch parties and is running for the republican nomination, then yes the author of the poll did forget him.
He's not on the *Republican* ballot
I Didn't Realize...
... that President Obama had switched parties. Does Joe Biden know about this?
It is true, though, that President Obama is facing stiff opposition in his Democratic primary today.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
It's okay, Suldog
Most of the Democrats haven't realized/acknowledged that Obama switched parties during his first term either.
As far as who I would vote for in the Republican primaries, I wouldn't. Voting for a Republican right now is antithetical to the policies and decisions that need to be made to benefit 99% (or more) of Americans right now. The fact that party identity politics so heavily skew people's ability to vote in their own self-interests on the most fundamental and compelling topics of today's era is something I'm not sure I'll ever truly be able to wrap my head around.
Could have fooled me
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
Dems decided a circling fire squad and some whine was better than voting in 2010. The numbers don't lie. Letting the GOP take the house has pretty much binded his hands in terms of getting anything useful done in terms of domestic policy.
If GOP obstruction and austerity never happened (which means the government would be hiring, instead of still firing people) we'd be 1-2% better in the unemployment rate today. Reagan did it on both fronts, private and government jobs, to see the economy turn around.
Obama is doing the same, but seeing private jobs added as the government continues it's layoffs.
You want change? You vote every chance you get and you get others to consistently vote. The second you let up, it means the religions wackos can get a bigger say. Apathy, It's what happened in 2010. And it might be what takes down Obama in 2012.
You're exactly right
You could have been fooled.
So
You expected a liberal bush?
You want to discount the Blue Dogs or the filibuster?
The other side is the one who doesn't live in reality. Lets not join them there.
Movements and shifts in policy are built. They are not installed overnight with magical hopes and dreams. I'm pretty mad that more hasn't got done either, but my reaction isn't to throw my hands up in the air and throw everything that was accomplished under the bus.
What we need to do is field better candidates that people can get excited about. Put common sense legislation on the ballot that is popular and will draw people out to vote, and stop the self immolation.
Look at the people already showing up for Warren. Contrast with Coakley. I don't doubt one will vote much one way than the other would, but character matters. Building constituencies matters. Building off what's there matters.
I love how Obama actually
I love how Obama actually stated, to the public, repeatedly, over and over again, that he was sitting fairly in the center and in fact was even somewhat rightish in a few respects (see: gay marriage) and most Democrats act like he's a traitor because he's not a total hippie.
I don't approve of everything he's done, but he's gotten a lot done and he's a damn sight better than the entire field.
settle down guys,
it was snark.
kinda
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/01/10/in_dixville_notch_its_a_romney_huntsman_tie/
:)
Easily Paul
... if only considering the Republican Primary. For the General Election I will be voting for Gary Johnson since Paul likely won't make it.
I won't bloody my hands with a second vote for Obama, who has failed spectacularly on reforming the positions Democrats are supposed to be good on (drug war, immigration), and done an even better job reinforcing some of Bush's worst abuses (civil liberties)
Paulbombing
I looked at this poll late this morning an Huntsman was way in the lead with something like 14 votes. Than I guess the Paulians must have discovered it and started Paulbombing.
I wasn't surprised that Huntsman was the favorite candidate of the uhub crowd. That Ron Paul would have a significant appeal to universal hub readers is not believable. Universal hub readers are for the most part pretty dedicated to urban issues and understand that the federal government is a huge resource for things like transportation and poverty alleviation. Exurbanites might be willing to see the cities go to hell in a hand basket as the feds disappear, but not many urban voters.
Another Possibility
While Paul supporters are renowned for getting out the internet vote, I'd suggest that Paul's stand as the only Republican candidate firmly committed to bringing American troops home from overseas, concurrently cutting the military budget significantly, would appeal to quite a few here (myself included.)
Also, his stand against the so-called War On Drugs would likely make him an attractive choice to many.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Also...
Since there's no option for Democrats and people just love voting anyways, most people I've talked feel that Paul v Obama debates would provide the greatest level of entertainment on many levels whereas none of the other options provide quite as much interest.
And...
... not to belittle the man I would choose, but some Democrats who vote in a poll such as this may be tempted to choose the candidate they feel is most likely to present the easiest opposition for their party's candidate. While I would love to see Paul receive the nomination simply for the possibilities it would present for true debate on certain issues, I'm enough of a realist to understand that he would probably stand less chance of actually being elected in November than the more mainstream and comparatively non-threatening Romney.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
My votes
Already been cast for Obama. Watching the Primary race has cemented that.
That said I voted here for Huntsman, who really is the only candidate with a great shot of upsetting Obama. He's the sort of candidate, any skeletons excluded, that the Indys would flock to. Especially in these trying economic times. He would win.
As for whats best for the Republican party, it's Paul. A Paul win would really shake things up intra-party, even as they lose the presidency. Thats a good thing, and it's going to need to come about for the GOP to regain it's conservatism.
Santorum would lose in a landslide, and Romney is just going to lose and cause a whole nother level of "if we were just more ideologically pure" in 2016. If you think the slide to the right was bad now, just wait until then if Romney wins the nomination and pulls a Kerry.
Love his foreign policy
But his domestic policy (especially in economics) is hovering around nutcase.
He's for privacy, unless it's something that doesn't appeal to him.
Nice try, suldog, but no, the poll has been paulbombed
Right here.
So we can safely say huntsman
So we can safely say huntsman was the UHub winner?
Seriously...
Dammit Daily Paul... it's true. Sometimes Ron Paul worst enemies are his own supporters. I should register over there and berate them for voting in a place they don't frequent and many not even from this area.
I voted for Ron Paul and was one of the early ones. I'll be honest I'm not sure I'll really vote for him in an actual election (I might just vote for local issues and elections if there's some), but I actually like him because from the best I can tell. He seems to be only one who don't have an interest of personal gain at the cost of the US. Look at Romney's donors, his biggest donor is Goldman Sachs followed by every other bank you can list.
Either way I been watching him and made observations of the active supporters.
It's is unfortunate too. I can make an argument there can be a good number of UHub Ron Paul supporters. Because his largest base is the college students and other young voters and you all know the numbers of schools here (and have rebuttals on Urban issues too, mind you).
Having a bunch of people who never come into this website create the opposite effect.
Wow
Never mind my lovely logical reasons. Conceded, big time :-)
(Although I suspect a few votes came to others via similar less ferocious postings, but not worth arguing about it.)
Just out of curiosity, Adam, what is the mechanism for tracking down something like that? What I mean is, did you look at IP addresses where visitors were coming from, or was it more involved, say Googling a certain string (Paul Vote Universal Hub, for example) and then clicking until you found the source?
(Another question occurs to me: Can you separate the votes from regular visitors, and/or registered users, from those coming from other sources?)
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Hey! Ron Paul drones!
What about those newsletters? Any comment? And please spare me the "he had no idea" bullshit. I think he's batshit crazy.
I presume that include me.
I presume that include me? Either way, you can start by taking back the word drone and then I can give my opinion.
Do not taunt Ron Paul Drones
Or they will get all 4chan/reLOVEution on yo' ass.
You are dealing with ...
... boys who don't know the difference between an open on-line poll and a ballot ... and that they only get one ballot ... and that they will have to be registered in NH to vote in this primary for reals.
... boys who are one lobotomy shy of a Larouche meet up
... boys who start all sentences with "Only Ron Paul ..." or "Ron Paul is the answer ..."
... boys who think that government intrusion into personal medical decisions is libertarian thinking if Ron Paul thinks it is okay.
Don't expect rational thinking or sanity. Ever.
Now that is just insulting and uncalled for
Again, I said earlier that I'm leaning towards Ron Paul and several friends also leans towards him. I hold hesitation still, but will not read quietly and let write that bring a feel of shame of my own opinion and the similar opinion many friends I know holds.
I will start with if you look at the exit polls, 49% of votes 18-29 voted for him. If you are to make such a statement on those voters, I ask you to back up your claim that all those voters are a "lobotomy shy of a Larouche meet up" irrational idiots.
This shows that Ron Paul is quite popular with people our age. The reason? From my observation of the people I know - because he's the only one without a history of being a hypocritical sell out. You know those Occupy Wall Street people, they are mostly not supporters of Ron Paul, but you know the common element between so many people our age? They are tired of corporate corruption. Seeing the bailouts and reading how much politicans accept thousands to millions of dollars from said companies. And yet, their base of supporters remains unchanged.
That is one of the many attractive reasons (others from the top of my head are war and NDAA) why the youngest set of citizens take interest in the old candidate on the block. If you google lobbyist money, you find he had accepted virtually zero. If you look at his voting past, he actually seem to follow a pattern of an ideology rather than self-interest of fame or money.
I am will to concede the core base of your thrust, the fanaticism of the active supporters are very passionate. Also some can use some mixing up on their rhetoric to how to voice their thoughts and arguments. I have observed and said earlier that sometimes his worst enemies are his biggest supporters. But there's more breadth than the few guys who makes all those youtube videos, many are us are just a bunch of college students and recent grads (there's older too, but I'm talking from my experiences). Nor it means you should dismiss and insult with a wide brush of the intelligence and idea of so many.
Interestingly, while many our age support him privately, most continue the apolitical motions people our age are generally seen (myself included) as we see him unable to win. Our lack of faith and hope is ironically self-fulfilling.
Yet this still means, talking about Ron Paul is more than just a bunch of people short of a lobotomy. I like to to think I am one, though currently reluctant of my support, I am willing to speak from my point of view if you are willing to.
Ron Paul!
I'm a regular Universal Hub reader and I voted for Ron Paul in the poll! He's making a great showing in New Hampshire. I just wish there weren't so many ignorant voters who voted for Mitt Romney because he "looks presidential" or "is electable". Vote the issues and the answer is clearly Ron Paul.
What was the question?
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I bleed blue, but if I had to
I bleed blue, but if I had to vote, I'd vote for Romney. He's the sanest of the circus of republicans. Obama is left-center. Romney is right-center. It wouldn't be the end of the world. I'm still grieving Hillary's loss.
I think ultimately the battle will be Obama v Romney and it will be very tight.
If Romney does win, I just hope he doesn't forget this:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390264_611577322400_41900021_32395094_1458785497_n.jpg
Ron Paul!
He's got Joementum!