Around 11:30 a.m., apparently.
Via the Herald, which wags its stern editorial finger at kids today.
Meeping music video (do NOT listen at work without headphones).
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that girl seems more than bored. do they offer special education classes at danvers hs?
...until they become teenagers.
They need to find a thrill, somewhere. After a certain age, little league and soccer camp won't cut it anymore. With no where to go and nothing legit to do that isn't entirely lame, house parties and pushing little buttons to see what makes steam pour out of the ears of squares is about all they can do, and I'm not condoning either behavior.
Those well intentioned "Youth groups" popping up around the North Shore designed to keep kids away from drugs only reach the kids who wouldn't do them (or very often) in the first place. They also miss the point. You kill the very cause you champion the moment you call it a "Youth group." Groucho Marx wouldn't join any club that would have him as a member, and neither would many teens.
Teens need to find cool on their own, and if you dangle it out in front of them without seeming to do so, they just might take the bait. And what I mean by that, is introducing a little culture into town. How about coffee shops with open mics? Cafes other than Starbucks that serve coffee and play cool music? How about a battle of the bands outside the school auditorium - like the VFW? What about "allowing" them to take trips into Boston via the commuter rail for day trips? They need to get out!!
If my parents didn't let me cross the Hudson, I don't know what I would have done as a teen in the 'burbs, and we at least had 24 hr diners that let us sit for hours over a few dollars woth of food. Not even having that here, they have nothing left but 'meep!' ...and also to find booze wherever they can get it when parents are out of town. Isn't Danvers known for that?
But don't listen to me, I teach media literacy in an urban system..
We were walking through Davis the other day when my teen son said "you know, I'm really going to miss this place when I go to college".
He and his brother get there by MBTA bus, or by bike. Heck, I've even walked home late at night when in no condition to drive. These sorts of appropriate places that don't require a car to get to are one big reason why we decided to raise the kids closer in.
There are a lot of things to do in Davis Square that have nothing to do with being old enough to drink. Movies, card and comic shops, cheap eats, a library, a bowling alley. Red line to Harvard if that isn't enough.
They will be leaving school in a few minutes, headed there with troops of friends whose parents feel the same way.
Ever since the first teenager set foot on earth, there have always been complaints about nothing to do, no matter where they live. Some kids are really good at entertaining themselves, hanging out with friends, etc., and some kids busy themselves in other ways. The setting doesn't matter, it's up to the kids (with parental influence). All those problems you attribute to the burbs (drinking, "youth" groups) also exist in the city. Each environment has its own set of pluses and minuses, and each environment has produced great and not-so-great kids.
As for meeping.....
I don't think this would have been a problem if it hadn't been banned. The second it was banned, it becomes an issue, and kids will constantly meep simply because it's not allowed.
If the administration had just left it alone, meeping would have died a quick death.
And for as long as teens have complaining about nothing to do, adults have been making the same mistakes in handling them.
It's true that there will always be kids in any environment who are bored and disconnected. It is also true that cities offer more options during more hours and at greater convenience, especially for those kids whose tastes are not as middle-of-the-road. My town was almost a mono-culture. If it hadn't been close enough to Manhattan, I would not have had the same exposures and experiences that peaked my interest as a teen. You know the old saying about leading a horse to water?
If I taught in Danvers rather than ____., I'd use it as an excuse to show an old cartoon. I'm pretty sure I could turn it into a lesson about the controversy of cartoon violence, among other things, for some educational merit, and can pretty much kill the rebelliousness out of it if I wanted to. I'm not sure if the administration in Danvers would like me playing videos with "meep-meep" in them, but I like to push a few buttons now and then for old-time's sake. :)
If you are a teen and:
THEN being in a suburb is a huge disadvantage compared to being in a city. Sprawl zones seriously limit your options for things to do which don't involve parents driving you around. Limited choices means limited choices for age-appropriate things to do or supervised environments (i.e. coffee houses, restaurants, and card shops all have these things called rules and expectations).
Yes, the only difference is that kids in the burbs don't have, or have very little, public transportation. This is generally handled by carpooling parents or some other way of carting the kids. Hardly a huge matter.
I don't understand your point about walking or cycling being impractical in the burbs. Huh? If anything, cycling would be easier and much safer. Apparently, this guy in the burbs is missing something, or you have this distorted view of the burbs.
Speaking of cycling, I'm off for a quick mt bike ride to build up an appetite for the big feast. Happy T-Day everybody.
For Seth has posted the most intelligent comment in the history of Universal Hub.
Oh, and Swirly dominated in this thread too. If you can't go to a show or a ballgame, you're going to get drunk in the woods. It's really that simple.
At least the students aren't observing that fine Danvers tradition of indulging mass hysteria & hanging witches.
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