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Well, firefighters are now harassing individual citizens. I got a SPAM phone message form an autobot - the firefighters want me to know how Menino is putting me in danger with firehouse brownouts. (but they didn't tell me why so many firefighters called in sick they had to brown out my local FD..)

So why is harassing me going to get me on their side?

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...I could tell you. :)

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In his occasional op-ed column for the various Wicked Local papers, Mayor Thomas Menino writes about all the "misinformation" the BFD is spreading over the issue.

The column is usually a chance for him to say some nice pleasantries or describe his position on a not-very-confrontational policy issue.

Not so this time. His writing sounds massively mad about the jakes jabbing about shutting stations in response to over-the-top overtime.

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Perfect political theater. Get mad, Tommy. Bluster and fume. It's a great show. Maybe while he's at it he can blame the firemen for the big hole in Downtown Crossing. There has to be a way...would somebody just arbitrate the damn contract already? Enough of this perpetual sideshow- it's getting real old.

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Please start another thread about all the ways the mayor doesn't do his job well. This thread is about the Boston jakes that are squandering the reputation as one of the finest fire department in the nation with their decidedly ineffective political tactics that end up making them look undeserving.

A system that staffs absences with other jakes earning OT pay is an expense that should be eliminated. Jakes seem to think systematic staffing for absences with OT expense is reasonable. The change means a loss of OT opportunity but we can staff absences without OT so why shouldn't we?

Retirement reform will keep the few jakes who were cheating the system through a legal loop hole from doing so yet the state is being sued by police and firemen. Nonetheless the jakes act as though their interest's and the taxpaying public's interests are one in the same. They are not. And the jakes are being unreasonable.

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How come the city does not release daily the number of sick calls for the firefighters? Put it out there and let all of us TAXPAYERS see. This fight is really not about safety, it is about 1000 greedy firefighter who feel they have a right to overtime to pad their pay checks. Wake up the padded pay checks are gone. Why not put on the ballot if the residents want the firefighters to take drug and alcohol test? That's the real safety issue here.

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While they are at it why not release the daily sick time for ALL departments in the City of Boston...after all the TAXPAYER pays the salary of ALL city employees so show us how many sick days are taken in the mayor's office, the water deparment, police, EMS, city hall, etc. Then we can see percentage wise by department where the "abuse " lies.
Why are the BFD's sick time stats the only ones the taxpayers seem to be concerned about??

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The Globe has a column in today's issue that reviews the issue and why we're all getting auto calls from the firefighter union:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinio...

Bottom line is despite the station closings, the entire city still has adequate coverage.

Ross Levanto

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Well, if Holliston resident Samuel R. Tyler and Scott Lehigh say we've got "adequate coverage", then it must be so. If there's a fire at my house (God forbid), what difference should it make to me whether the engines are coming from just down the road or a couple of miles away? It's not as if time is a factor.
The Globe says it's adequate, and that's good enough for me. What a relief!

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Dan, any proof that it's inadequate?

Per capita, and per SQ mile Boston is number one for coverage. I think we're doing pretty damn good comparatively if that's the case.

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Closing any fire station for any length of time amounts to inadequate coverage, especially if your house is close to a fire station. A fire doubles in intensity every 30 seconds, and seconds count when somebody is having a heart attack or a stroke. So, how long do you want to wait for a fire company to arrive? If that Boston EMS ambulance is coming from Downtown, and you live in Jamaica Plain, would you like help from a fire company, or just wait for that ambulance if the closer fire company is shut down?

Unfortunately, it is going to take a death in the city for people to see the plain-as-day difference between adequate and inadequate, and when that happens, I want to see all the negative commenters on here, as well as the Mayor, Sam Tyler, and Dot Joyce, defend closing fire houses to the parent who just lost their child in the fire when their house was 3 minutes away from a closed fire company, or defend to the wife why her husband died of a heart attack because the engine company 2 blocks away was shut down for the day and they had to wait 13 minutes for an ambulance.

So, is it adequate? Is is adequate for somebody to die? If you're going to start spouting about sick time and it's "abuse," see my post below.

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There's room for debate on this issue, but you are using a slippery slope argument. Most of us do not live 3 minutes from a firehouse, so should we build a few more to ensure that's the max distance? And why stop there, let's make a 2 minute max radius, just to be sure.

I am no expert on the logistics of emergency services coverage, but I do find it interesting that nobody complains about closures for other reasons (equipment, training, etc.) yet does complain about the one type of closure that jeopardizes a perk. If safety is the issue, where is local 787 on general closure issues?

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No section of the City of Boston has a fire company that takes any longer than 4-6 minutes to respond, with the exception of maybe those that run in heavy traffic. Most ambulances take longer than that due to the distance they must travel. So, although yes, most people don't have a firehouse 2 minutes from their house, they might have one 4 minutes away, unless it is closed.

As well, for your information, the protest does not come from us losing a "perk." It comes from the city's the mayor's treatment of the fire department. We HAVE protested closures due to failing equipment and other reasons. The fire department has some spare trucks that it uses from 1984; how many police cars or ambulances do you see from that period of time? How many police stations or ambulances have been closed to save money? Do NO other city workers call in sick, EVER?

Please....

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25 year old trucks shouldn't be on the active equipment list, and I'd certainly support remediation. But then again, I don't think anybody has received robocalls about that issue.

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"Bottom line is despite the station closings"...What crap. Hey Ross, since you have made yourself an expert on adequate coverage, why not have the balls to file a freedom of information request for sick calls on the dates noted. I mean the day to day tour numbers that affect the hiring of overtime. The city's numbers are a lie! Why is NOBODY calling them on this. I'll answer that for you, because the Globe and Herald are in Menino's pocket. Wake up. Menino is a nasty, vindictive bastard that has had the BFD on his hate filled agenda since 1993.

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"I got a SPAM phone message form an autobot"

Thats funny, sounds more like something a decepticon would do!

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One unsolicited robocall is harassment? I don't live in Boston, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but c'mon -- one robocall is annoyment at best, not harassment.

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Got a call that my station (corner of Boylston and Hereford) was closed - somehow I doubt that - it's one of the busiest stations in the city.

The firefighters are not winning any friends in this fight.

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I got a call the other day when my local station was closed, and it was in fact closed. Why would you doubt it? They are closing stations rather than replacing people who call in sick with people working overtime, to save money.

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This tactic is simply another arm of Flaherty's campaign. Trying to get the Mayor to roll around in the mud with the BFD only helps his cause. Dont worry, if Flaherty gets elected there will be no more robocalls from Local 718. Will be too busy on their yachts.

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I have to agree with the other poster; even though I find the BFD union's latest tactics extremely embarassing (and I'm a former union member, not in the public sector), I received this robo-call and didn't think of it as harassment. In fact, I laughed out loud...I was thinking, this is what it takes for them to get their "position" out? And will their union dues cover the cost? Wow -- what kind of a budget do they have? I remember getting several robo-calls from the mayor over the years too BTW. This was just one call. But I see your point; these calls might be effective on those who are not well informed as to what's going on; for the rest of us, not so much.

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Sorry, to me it was harassment. Unless I know you and you have a reason to call me, I don't want my phone to ring. That's why we have "do not call" lists - I don't want you to call me!!!!

Speaking of which - does this count as a political list? I am on the DNC list - can I now press charges against BFD for violating Do Not Call with their robo call??

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DNC list only refers to commercial solicitation. Charitable fund drives and political messages, along with any non-commercial calls are not covered.

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Shamrag: I would like to be put on the do not call list for dumbass Boston petty politic bullcrap - especially from the "dumbasses" now in charge of the firefighters' union.

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I would like to know why the Boston Fire Department is the only public or private sector agency not allowed to call in sick, and why when a member does, it automatically amounts to "abuse?"

There are 3 sides to this story; the city's, the fire department's, and the truth. However, the city is doing a very good job of convincing the public, the media, AND itself that the entire fault lies within Local 718. Let's take a look at a few things the city might not want the Globe to print in one of it's one sided articles:

*The first day brown-outs began, the fire commissioner claimed that 33 firefighters had called in sick, and this was proof that abuse was rampant in the fire department. However, he later had to recant this on the radio and tell everyone that it was 13, NOT 33 firefighters, who had called in sick. The other 20 had already been off duty on injured leave. Is being injured in a fire also an abuse?

*The city had a fire recruit class lined up and ready to start training in December 2008. However, they cut the funding for it and never put it through. Everybody knows that paying anybody at a normal rate rather than an overtime rate saves money, however the city cut the class and paid out overtime to cover the missing slots (NOT just for sick time) at fire stations that do not already have enough members (yes, some fire stations are not fully staffed due to the lower number of personnel that the fire department now has). If the city had put through the recruit class when it did, it would not have had to pay as much overtime (to cover the missing slots, NOT just for sick leave "abuse") and would not have to close firehouses now.

*The commissioner mentions that firefighters calling in sick are "abusing" the system. He is failing to mention the amount of these sick calls that come with documentation. Some people calling in sick DO have a legitimate reason (sick themselves, sick child, or sick family member) and provide the fire department with documentation from a physician or other professional who can verify that they called in sick for a legitimate reason. However, every sick call is now being pooled into the "unexcused, abusive" category, regardless of the reason.

*The city is not closing firehouses where firefighters have called in sick. Instead, the city is taking turns closing fully staffed firehouses, and sending those firefighters to cover the vacancies at other firehouses where members are missing. For example, if 8 firehouses across the city are missing a member (from either a sick call, because a member might be out injured, OR due to the fact that a new firefighter hasn't been hired in over 6 months), the city can close up to 4 FULLY STAFFED firehouses and send those firefighters out to cover the slots. Basically, they are closing a different firehouse daily and hoping that the one they close isn't close by to a fire or cardiac arrest. As I said in my last post within this thread, and anybody should know anyways, SECONDS, not minutes, count when there is a fire, or a medical emergency. However, if one hasn't experienced one of those events, then they could care less how long it takes. As well, for all the negatives spouting that there aren't as many fires, and so why do we even need as many firehouses, try telling that to somebody whose house has burned down recently in the city. (So far this year, 25 multiple alarm fires have occurred in the city, and that does not count the ones that still burned a house down but did not require an additional alarm of response).

I know that for some of the people reading this, you will still feel negativity toward the fire department for "complaining" about not getting overtime when others are losing their jobs. However, it is that group of you who have been seriously misinformed by the mayor and as well the media. If the city had hired the firefighters necessary to staff the fire department when it had the chance, overtime would not have to be paid out and firehouses would not be closed now. Sick leave is used by every single department citywide, and by every private sector job, but it is only abuse now because the "taxpayers are paying for it" and the mayor and his two puppets, Rod and Dot, lead the public to believe that (I am a city firefighter and a taxpayer as well, and that is often failed to be metioned: we pay taxes too).

I would just like to know why we, at Boston Fire, are simply not allowed to have family emergencies, sick children, or be sick ourselves, and why now, everytime a firefighter calls in sick, he or she is "abusing" the system and not simply using a sick day that has been allotted to him or her.

If somebody on here can come up with an adequate reason why I or my family cannot be sick, ever, and prove that every recent sick call into the fire department has been an undocumented abuse of taxpayer's money, I invite you to come on here and demonstrate as such.

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Don't let a few bad apples spoil your reputation. Of course sick leave should be allowed, I don't see anybody arguing that it shouldn't. But existing practice provides an incentive to those who want to game the system by abusing sick leave. That doesn't mean most are doing it, but probably some are -- it's human nature. So the brown out policy removes the incentive by utilizing a flexible operational strategy.

In fact, this is exactly the same approach used in most of the other industries you cite that allow sick leave without using overtime replacements. We adjust our operational schedule to fit the staffing availability, and only hire additional staff if the adjustment is inadequate to meet the output requirements for the day.

If the union wants to make the case that brown outs are creating a situation in which the operational plan cannot meet acknowledged safety metrics, then they should cite the research. But most of the citations are coming from the Fire commission and mayor's office, and it seems to go against the union position.

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Unlike other city employees, firefighters are paid to provide life-saving services. When union leadership plays politics with issues such as drug/alcohol testing (standard in other major cities), pension reform, disability abuse, fleet maintenance, etc... then as a taxpayer who is trusting the department to be ready to possible save the lives of my family in an emergency, yeah, I'm not inclined to let it slide as much as problems with the BRA, DPW or any other department. If you're really claiming that the sick leave is the only major issue causing distrust between the city and the fire department, then I guess this will all blow over when people get better.

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Most of what you're talking about has to do with management, the sole responsibility of which falls on the administration, not the uniformed firefighters.

Since you mentioned maintenance, ask who is responsible for the death of Lt. Kelly due to faulty brakes, I can say that it's Fraser. After being hired, he called a meeting of uniformed members to ask what needs improvement on the job, almost every person that raised his hand stated that the apparatus was falling apart. Don't think he didn't move that information up the chain to his boss. If he didn't, he's criminally negligent at the least. His reaction to the accident was to clam up and let the mayor blame the men who maintain the apparatus. These men never worked on brakes and he knew it.

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You're right - we do need more of the whole story

- We hear of more sick days around holiday time. Working holidays is the nature of the job. Are there really more sick days around holidays? Or is someone exaggerating

- Is there really a 'sick time' problem or are we just understaffed. Numbers of police officers is always thrown around - do we have a number of firefighters we should have in the city, and what the current employment is??

- Overtime is a loaded statement. It often is cheaper to pay overtime than to hire people. But without all the data, there's no way to tell if it's "good" overtime or "bad" overtime.

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The firefighters' union now has guys in cars driving around the neighborhoods with recorded messages on their bullhorns. Ugh, please stop being annoying!

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Maybe the public would (I know I would) take the firefighters more seriously if they and their union leadership didn't act like petulant 12-year-olds, always, every time, no matter the issue.

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The Change for Boston blog tells a story of the Mayor being furious when the firehouse near him was browned out. I hope this is a true entry...

http://www.changeforboston.org/negative-public-pol...

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Kudos to you for being willing to post something from a slightly different perspective. May your nights be henceforth undisturbed by irritating robocalls, brother.

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