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Begorrah: The drinkin' o' the green will end early on Sunday in Southie
By adamg on Wed, 03/16/2011 - 11:35am
The mayor's office alerts us:
To encourage people to get home safely on Sunday after all-day parade celebrations, the City has ordered package stores and bars in South Boston to close early on Sunday, March 20, 2011. Package Stores will close at 4 PM and bars must close by 7:30 PM on Sunday.
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Thanks for the warning - now
Thanks for the warning - now all the house parties will stock up.
spitball
it makes no sense. what makes sense is to have roadblocks around the area and let it be known. public transportation or walk home. why should they make everyone stay after school because one person threw a spitball. i never could make any sense out of that one. did the teacher think that the rest of the kids would beat up on the kid that threw the spitball.
Where's the Outrage!
At this PROFILING...
Is it legal to spot-license on certain days?
I know the city has wide latitude on liquor licensing, but I'm amazed that a well heeled barman (or packie owner) hasn't challenged this in the courts. All year long, they're paying taxes including the city's onerous add-on to the state meals tax, salaries, insurance, including the new statewide mandatory liquor liability, tuititon for Serv-Safe and T.I.P.S. classes, bouncers and police details, etc. Still, the city declares that regardless of the bar's record, they can'be trusted to safely serve after 7 pm on the day of the St. Patrick's Day parade, when owners might recoup some of their expenses? Also, where does "South Boston" begin and end for the purposes of the ban? Can one walk into Dorchester or over the Jimmy Kelly bridge and drink til 2 am? Is there an anti-Irish bias here too? Does the city restrict booze sales during the Caribbean festival, Gay Pride parade, Italian feasts etc.?
This isn't the first time the city has done something like this
Every time the Celtics or Red Sox make it into the post-season now, the city places restrictions on bars on the night of the final game (I forget all of them, but one of them is a restriction on TV cameras in bars near Fenway).
It's not like Boston doesn't have an unfortunate history of over-liquored lunkheads causing trouble when assembled in large numbers for festiv occasions.
Just another reason to
Just another reason to legalize cannabis. Alcohol creates chaos, cannabis just makes you chill out.
Little faith in our politicians to do the right thing but if they have any backbone they'd push through Bill S1801 and stop discriminating against cannabis users. We spend so much money fighting a dangerous drug that's legal and then spend even more money fighting a peaceful plant.
Down with alcohol, up with cannabis.
Aye, tis the season
fer the smokin o' the green!
Legalize cannibals?
The font on my screen was really small so when I first read this post I thought it said "cannibals." You can imagine my surprise... ctrl-+ ctrl-+
"Cannibals just make you chill out." Yeah, because they don't want you to spoil!
you've got your facts wrong
Drunk-Boston-sports-fan-caused-deaths: 1 (I believe, right? The drunk driver?)
Asshole-Power-Tripping-Who-You-Lookin-At-Boston-Cop-Caused-Deaths: 2 (Woodward, Snellgrove.)
Funny that.
Smashed windows, fires,
Smashed windows, fires, vandalism, violence, sign removal, embarrassments for the city in the news, etc: 100s.
Ah, yes, Southie
The only place in Boston you'll get smashed windows, fires, vandalism, violence, sign removal. Well, I guess, maybe it's not sooo bad since other ghettoes' favorite drugs are already illegal throughout the year. As long as we're keeping it to select groups.
Jimmy Kelly Bridge
You already have a problem if you think you can go over over the Jimmy Kelly bridge and up in Dorchester. If you go over the Jimmy Kelly bridge you either end up in the South End or heading into Chinatown.
You missed the word "or". Re-read it
Amazing!
Talk about a nanny state! This is really condescending and plays into Irish stereotypes.
I don't think the city is allowed to do that
State law says that municipalities can't require bars and restaurants to stop serving earlier than 11 pm.
Drinkers will just migrate into downtown Boston or Dorchester anyway, so this imposes an unwarranted financial penalty on businesses in a single neighborhood. They should get together and file for an injunction ASAP.
Really? The minutes of the
Really? The minutes of the Cambridge License Commission show that they frequently issue restaurant licenses valid until 10 pm or earlier.
Then Cambridge is also overstepping its legal authority
From the Mass. ABCC website:
"Massachusetts State Law says that restaurants can not be barred from serving alcohol between 11:00 a.m.-11:00 p.m. Local authorities may grant extended opening hours between 8:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. and extended closing hours between 11:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. In no event can sales be made between 2:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m." [bolding added by me]
Hmm, maybe the right to be
Hmm, maybe the right to be open from 11-11 is only for restaurants that serve alcohol, and towns can restrict dry restaurants further.
Not illegal, but...
I don't think it's illegal, but it's still a terrible idea.
Public drunkenness is a problem on St. Patrick's Day? No problem, we'll shut down all the drinking establishments near the parade route at 4:00. Most of Southie isn't a quick walk to the T, so the entire mob of people who have been drinking green beer all day will get into their cars and drive (either back home or to the parts of the city where the bars are still open) all at the same time, thus maximizing the number of drunk assholes on the road.
Great. Just great.
Most of Southie isn't a quick
Huh?
The Parade route goes right by two stops on the red line, and Buses go up and down all the major roads in Southie (and quite a few minor ones as well)
Public transportation is all over that section of the city.
Now if you said it be at capacity and off schedule, I might agree with you.
Bus service is suspended
during the St. Patrick's Day parade. I have no idea how anyone not on foot, car, or bicycle would get into or out of Southie that day.
That's at least part of the point
By migrating to multiple other, larger, locations, you diffuse and defuse any potential problems.
State laws include an
State laws include an explicit permission for the Mayor of a city to order licensees not to serve "in cases of riot or great public excitement". (MGL chapter 138 section 68)
Whether that's the basis for this order or not I don't know. Nor do I know whether or not planned festivities have been cited as "great public excitement" in the past.
Most of the bars in Southie
Most of the bars in Southie charge in outrageous cover the day of the parade. A friend of mine went to a bar near my old apartment (the one next to the Burger King on Broadway, with no name) the one you couldn't PAY ME to walk into and had to cough up $20 to get in the door. I'd venture to say they're not hurting this day.
I wish they did this while I still lived in Southie.
insults
that doesnt make any sense and its kind of insulting if you think about it. thats like saying no fried chicken can be served in roxbury after 7pm because you might eat too much and lack self control but every other town can. thats a sterotype insult as bad as they come. ps i like chicken and booze also. are you gonna stand for this lads and lassies. lol we all have preconceved notions people have about us. now you know another. long live the king as it has been said so let it be writtin.
Nice way to slip in some stereotyping of your own
But, sure, please link to the studies that show a link between fried chicken and loss of control.
Not a study
But I was nearly assaulted by a large group that was loitering outside a Bon Chon chicken shop, last week. I said "excuse me" and was attempting to thread my way through the crowd, and they were extremely rude in return.
Maybe they were still hungry?
/cluck
meat wagons
I was making a sarcastic and facetious remark that any worldly person would get a chuckle and understand complete with the bad spelling. if you want to hang on to the superfuluous words ect. go ahead any person with common knowledge would get my point. i am writing this praying with all dedication that you will understand. ps i have been known to talk dogs off of meat wagons.bow wow.
stereotype?
I don't think it's much of a stereotype to say that a lot of people use Saint Patrick's Day as an excuse to get wasted in public. For most of these people the day has nothing to do with being Irish or celebrating St. Patrick or bagpipes or boiled dinners or any of the other cultural manifestations of the day. It's like people getting wasted and publicly obnoxious after a local sports team wins a championship -- nothing to do with the team, the game or the person's love of any of those. It's about getting wasted.
Even some of the people who lying down in their own puke may actually be Irish or have an interest in various aspects of the day, but were the day traditionally celebrated by quiet reflection, church attendance and abstinence, chances are they would not be so into the holiday.
I just drink at home that day as I have no desire to be waiting to get into a bar where I can't find a chair.
Ha!
That is funny. A whole new meaning to the phrase "chicken fight," perhaps. "Well officer, I was all hopped-up on grape drink and fried chicken when I decided to kick some a."
At least you like chicken and beer as much as the next guy, that is reassuring.
Complete city statement
Here.
4:00 and 7:30
I was going to "get out of Dodge" for the day, but thanks to our Mayor, I won't have to leave town like I usually do.
Offensive? Pshaw I say!
This isn't offensive at all. Here's some more regulations that wouldn't be offensive, either:
-To encourage people to get home safely after all-day Cinco de Mayo celebrations, the City has ordered Home Depot parking lots to open late on May 6.
-To encourage people to get home safely after all-day Chinese New Year celebrations, pedestrians are being strongly urged to watch the fuck out.
-To encourage people to get home safely after all-day Feast of Saint Anthony celebrations, the City has ordered a ban on open flames in the North End to prevent any grease fires. An air traffic ban will also be imposed on helicopters, because dago wop wop.
-To encourage people to get home safely after all-day Pride Day celebrations, the City will be banning bicycle traffic on all surface roads. Only heterosexual methods of transportation will be allowed.
-To encourage people to get home safely after Boston Bruins games, only non-mentally retarded hockey fans will be admitted to the TD Garden on game days. Enjoy the game, you two!
- To encourage people to get
- To encourage people to get home safely after the 4/20 smoke-out in the common, the handful of police officers at the event will stand idly by and watch people peacefully proceed towards the exits.
thumbs up
I used to live in Southie and honestly see nothing wrong with this. I also don't feel it is stereotyping - are other events as bad as this? Have any of you been sober in Southie for parade day? While there are flaws (walk to another neighborhood and drink until 2am) this parade, that I used to attend as a child with my family, has become some excuse for people to get wasted on the streets and trash the neighborhood. I usually lock myself inside OR leave for the day. I'll never forget getting into a car parked in a private parking lot down a side street in southie and having to ask for the young "ladies" taking a piss next to the car to please leave. I see the parade as an excuse for people who (mostly) don't live in Southie to come to my neighborhood and treat the streets like a bar. Have some respect for the people who have to live there.
If you really want to class the neighborhood up...
How about you and your other neighbors who feel the same way get together and convince the powers that be to hold something else instead of the current drunken fest of homophobia? This is an event organized by people in Southie, not just some random guerrilla takeover of the neighborhood.
organizers are from Stoughton
Actually, the guy who runs the show is from Stoughton. They had to go that far to find a douchebag to equal the wacko who was running it before.
OK, then...
Thanks for the correction.
Still, Southie puts up with this bullshit, and a sizable amount of the people who live there and hang out there actually seem to support the event. A lot of other neighborhoods would organize and fight it if someone wanted to parade homophobia through their streets.
Absolutely correct
A half a million parade goers on a bad day, 30,000 residents who are "from" Southie and out of that 68% have lived there for 3 years or less. So it doesn't sound like the Snooki and Situation wannabes, who piss and puke all over the neighborhood, need to continue drinking beyond 7:30 pm. I applaud the Mayor for taking a stand against the fine liquor dispensing establishments who do not contribute any funds to the parade.
QUIT THE WINE - ING
It should apply to the whole City and day trippers should be stopped at the City line and turned away. Then the City should do the same on July 4th.
Ah yes, socialism running
Ah yes, socialism running amok in Boston, the city on the hill. What a sad state of affairs.
Thank you for further bolstering my thesis
That much of life can be explained by quotes from "Airplane," "Animal House" and "The Princess Bride."
In this case, I am thinking of Inigo Montoya exclaiming: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
What am I?
A zit!! Get it?
And "Hocus Pocus"!
"Amuck amuck amuck amuck a-*ooooof*!"